Remarried Empress - Ch. 60

[TrollKing1]

@howalonnie
She does take care of her people, but slaves aren't a part of that. Considering the time period they appear to be in, slavery is a part of the system they live in. Everyone accepts that. Regardless of how wrong that is, it doesn't really matter considering how good of a job she does. All I'm trying to convey here is that I don't hate Rashta because she has her own things going on, I don't completely dislike the emperor because he's just a man that wants to be loved (lol), and the empress is fine since she's just doing her job. That job includes taking care of the kingdom affairs.

 

[karkina]

@howalonnie @devilaugh
The part that is fascinating to me about tRashta is how Soviesche makes her a villain. He finds her after she's run away from a terrible situation, she's a slave because of her father, not anything she did. She thinks she's found love and freedom with someone, then gets taken advantage of and left to die in a barn with a dead baby.
Soviesche knows she's being influenced by these unsavory characters, knows she is scared and turning to a problematic source for comfort. But instead of stepping up and actually protecting her, or giving her the knowledge she needs to build relationships in the palace, he hordes it to use against her later. He has so little respect for other human beings that he watches her dig her own grave with fascination, then wonders later how such a "pure girl" could fall to such lows. That lack of support makes her more and more volatile, and results in some fantastic comeuppance for himself as well....but we have a ways to go before any of that.

 

[sunshine_riptide24]

i pity the emperor. he’s going about this all wrong but it’s evident he still wishes to keep navier by his side because he loves her. i also think navier loves him but it’s hard to love them when y’all have been treating each other like siblings or best friends rather than spouses. if u read the novel, it goes into depth a lot more about what sovieshu means when he says navier is infertile but ugh i’m so happy i get to see everyone’s beautiful face (except trashta). thank you lovely translators

 

[Aurantix]

Huh, I didn't know that wanting to be empress at any cost, and cheating and lying to achieve it counted as "wanting a little wealth and power"...

I guess it's not that much of a big deal...

On a serious note, would I be able to sympathise with Rashta if her character had the exact same background but a completely different personality? Absolutely, 100%, I would cheer for her to find happiness, however, her personality makes her absolutely unlikeable, unfortunate and pitiful, but still unlikeable.

Is the shit face Emperor at fault? Totally, he's irredeemable and deserves to suffer.

But Rashta is a victim of her choices. The Emperor didn't tell her to be disrespectful towards the Empress, she chose that, the Emperor did not tell her to befriend a possible spy who is probably using her to bring forth the end of the empire, she believed that he was interested in her solely because she's cute, never mind that her logic of wanting to have what the Empress has could be considered treason.

It's a simple fact of respecting the rules. And they're not even that new.
What happened in the US in January is similar, people who believed to be in the right decided that their wishes were more important than all of the laws that govern their own country.

Yes it's a novel and anything can be presented in such a way to sway the reader to either root for those who overthrow a government or those who maintain it, it's all a matter of perspective, but in this case the perspective is not in favour of the slave, but not because she's a slave, it's because she's a greedy blind idiot.

People's dislike for her is purely based on personality, it has nothing to do with her background or condition.

Edit:

I didn't think it was that big of a text wall. I guess I needed to rant😅

 

[DeviLaugh]

@howalonnie I guess this is where I am vastly different from you as a reader. I HATE, I absolutely DEPLORE stories that throw away the historical context of the setting in favor of being more PC. I am not in favor or essentially pretending things in the past were better than they were so people don't get offended when they read a story. Your entire argument boils down to Navier being part of the nobility so that makes her inherently bad. Bruh, what is this bullshit? I'm a socialist, not a marxist. I do not believe that people should be stripped of their wealth, I believe people have a responsibility to use their wealth and power to better others, and that is what she does!

Navier (and the emperor) just sit in the palace because they were born into wealth and privilege? PLEASE! We literally only see Navier work or decompress. She works and works and works. Even the shitty Emperor is working when he isn't seeing his side piece. Even the silly tea parties and balls are used to maintain allies and keep up with the issues in the empire. Okay, so she doesn't get rid of slavery or the monarchy, but it wouldn't make sense in the story and that isn't what the story is about! Slavery is a minor part of this story. The story barely changes if Trashta was instead a commoner instead of a slave.

I don't need to do any research, this is a work of fiction with an established setting that you're reading too much out of. You are purposefully ignoring the context of the story to push your beliefs of equality when it doesn't fit. It is already established that there is a monarchy, it is pointless to criticize the fundamentals of a monarchy existing. It is already established that this is a patriarchal society and that the Emperor is a piece of shit who values women for their ability to birth him heirs, not for their value as people, we don't need to just accept bad women because men have more power in this story.

We all can sympathize with Rashta. We can all look at her circumstance and think about what we might do. We can all say we would do whatever we could to protect ourselves, and we can forgive Rashta for making a few decisions here and there. But at some point, you have to stop forgiving Trashta because she is a victim . If you read more, I wonder if you will continue to defend her? She's a victim, BUT she's also a bad person at the core and she leans into it. Women can be bad people too.

 

[DeviLaugh]

@karkina wholeheartedly agree. Sovewhatever is the the root cause of all the issues. He knows Rashta is a former slave and purposefully breaks the laws because he likes to control her like a toy, leading to her easily being manipulated. He is keeping her around because he thinks she will give him an heir. He protects her until she goes too far with the intention of throwing her away later. He is entirely irredeemable. He is blinded by his own desires and doesn't see how his actions are like dominos that are driving each woman in his life into a bitter feud. That's why later in the story, while I think Rashta honestly needs to be locked up for the actions she chose to make and for her own mental health, it is the Emperor that gives the reader a sense of schadenfreude in the end. He is the real antagonist in the story.

 

[Ajuioke2]

Her brother should just move to Heinly’s kingdom.

 

[saph]

@DevilLaugh the problem with criticising the emperor's actions from this point of view is that he is merely following what his role would imply and by the rules of his society he hasn't actually done anything wrong (although yes, this plan that would majorly fuck up both the women in his life's lives is extremely morally compromising). This is actually my biggest problem with this story is that it doesn't have a solid moral compass when it comes to things like this. When it comes to Rashta straddling noble etiquette and being generally ignorant the story is willing to criticise her for it even though it's only wrong in the context of the society they live in, and it's simultaneously willing to criticise her and the Emperor for doing things that are only morally wrong within the context of a further morally developed society. This problem was definitely more frontloaded and they've done a lot more 'objectively' wrong since the start but I have to question if the author has a coherent thought in their head of how they should portray their antagonists(?).

 

[buecherwurmin]

@howalonnie I (and probably most others) agree with you that Sovieshit is the true culprit and antagonist here, Rashta is a victim, sure, who is used and manipulated, but I also think that you can't apologize every action of a person with her background/history, that noblewoman was described as a at least decent person and Rashta kinda destroyed her, without cause, without reason since she did nothing to Rashta nor threatened her in any way and for survival, you would think that at least trying not to piss off the empress from the start is the better way, something that she also should have been learned as a slave (not meant as positive, more that this is bad writing)
for the society, hhmm yes, we know way to little about the life of the normal people, and yes slavery could/should be drawn in a more negative light - but, first, besides Rashta we've seen no slaves, so it can't be that common, possibly a form of punishment or a status for war prisoners, possibly given to their children too, I don't know, sure
yes, Navier does apparently nothing against it, on the other hand, Rashta also had not even once a thought of that herself, she wants to become a part of exactly that society! - not saying, that she should/could change something, but not even thinking about or even maybe comrades of her, besides her status, slavery seems non-existant in that world, even for Rashta, so I think you can't say, the nobles are bad since they are the upper part of society (someone has to lead a state and from what we've seen, they do a decent job)
so my train of thought is, the author just used that slavery status to intensify her subjection to that noble and her status as victim, he could have made her just a poor servant and the story would have been more or less the same

 

[soynugget]

damn all those chapters at once, we're getting fed today hngg

 

[AusarKun]

@howalonnie im not saying slavery isnt bad or anything like that, i didnt think about slave too much because that is the norm of their world, just like ours a few hundred years back, slave were an integral part of social economy of nations across the world, abolishing them need generations upon generations of industrialization to reduce the minimal skill job that the slaves used to do

Yes she's a slave and its sad, but she literally won the lottery by being picked up by the emperor (which most slave isnt lucky enough to get that), she could be just a naive looking girl, asking the emperor to help poor people of her choosing (hey, cant save everyone) or something likee that and emperor most likely will love her more because of that naivety and energy

And i mean by other people is mostly just the commoner, just imagine, imagine, you just a commoner, and your country leader/king/etc picked up a side chick, and that side chick literally pave the way ( by shaking the the bond of the country rulers thereby distablizing the country itself) to force you to take arms and fight in a war (manipulated by fucking other country noble), if you or your loved ones get killed in the flames of war or worse forced into slavery after losing the war, wouldnt you despise the cause of the war, the person who made it possible in the first place (if you know it, if you dont prob you would just blame the emperor)

 

[DeviLaugh]

@ saph The Emperor is at fault from the beginning. It is established in this setting that criminals become slaves. This is their legal system, slavery and execution. Running away from slavery is considered a crime punishable by execution. This is something that is used to maintain order in their society that both nobility and commoners follow. By knowing that Rashta is a runaway slave and honoring her as a concubine (having a concubine is "accepted", but that doesn't mean women are okay with their husband's affairs), he is essentially saying that the rules of their society don't matter, he likes her for his reasons and that is all that matters. He is makes a mockery of the rules and if that gets out, it could cause a major upheaval. He could be dethroned, the nobility could try to suppress the commoners more, the commoners could try to overthrow the nobility. It would just overall set a bad precedent and destabilize things. All his actions after are just a poor plan to have an heir while keeping both women.

As far as Rashta's social etiquette. She has tutors and lessons on etiquette, but she often makes rash decisions that she should know are bad with common sense, or even if she gets the benefit of doubt, she still makes decisions she knows are rude. For instance, SHE decides to give the Viscount's daughter the same dress as her because she knows it will humiliate her (in this situation, I don't really blame her, but just as an example of her willingness to ignore etiquette). She knows it is wrong to throw a tea party on the same day as the Empress, but because her feelings are hurt, she listens to Duke Elgy and does it anyway. For some reason, she thinks that she should be allowed all the same treatment as the Empress because she is sleeping with the Emperor, but she gets offended when she is treated as the concubine position dictates. Remember that Rashta isn't just ignorant, she has access to information (her lady in waiting is a Viscountess) and she still chooses to make bad decisions. As far as criticism for being a concubine itself, it's not because she is having the affair, it is because she expects Navier to be okay with it and accept her which is a ridiculous idea.

 

[Cresthunter]

Wait so he wants to divorce his wife the empress for 2 years and marry ratasha to make the baby the legal heir to the throne then marry her back? I thought this guy wanted her to love him again in what world would she agree to get back together hell even if he forces her to remarry him what makes him think she would even look a him anymore.

 

[Lownzie]

So after the divorce episode, I can’t wait for Trashta to make a joke of the Empress position.

 

[DaKatGod]

Thanks for the mass release~!!
You all are super awesome!

 

[TheGodEmperor]

whoooo!! Thanks for the mass release.

Also, I still think people gotta stop hating on Rashta for everything, there is shit she's horrible for (coming later), but she's also a pretty pitiful person. She's being constantly manipulated by everyone around her. She's not educated by no fault of her own (she is trying in the palace to learn, as we see), but by a shitty society that still has slavery. And that's the biggest thing that makes me pity her, she was a slave trying to do what she can to avoid being a slave or abused again. The real horrible person is stupidshoe. He's the one that deserves all the hate.

Rashta deserves pity and disappointment in her actions though.

 

[SumukluSupurge]

@Cresthunter he thinks because she was raised to be the empress her whole life even he divorces her he can marry her back later because she wont remarry because of her pride. Well too bad he didnt know his lifelong friend and then wife enough pog

 

[beemo_bb]

I need this divorce. I feel like this has been tooo long.

When it hasn’t been I know. Thanks for the chapters!!!!

 

[FlowerPower1]

This divorce can't come soon enough, when it finally happens I don't know how I will cope.

 

[AnuraB]

Thank you for the chapters!

Finally the divorce will come. I'm waiting so long!!
Sorry for being greedy, but I fucking need more chapters. I want to see his Majestys and Trashtas shit hit the fan and them getting speckled by it.