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I don't mind if you "shit on me". Likewise, expect the same from me if you do so.
Your entire argument is predicated on this strawman that I believe you aren't allowed to have your opinion. You are allowed to have and voice your opinion. Negative viewpoints are allowed to exist and everyone is free to express those viewpoints.
For the record, you do care. You're bringing it up and using highly emotional language on the topic. I don't need a reason to dislike something. I can choose to do what I want. If you actually cared about the reasoning, you'd point out the flaws in the reasoning. You wouldn't be complaining about it. Your entire argument is just you making incorrect assumptions and attacking those strawmen to justify your hurt feelings. Move on.
Art is objective, despite this you are allowed to like what you want and dislike what you want. If art was subjective, why would you care about anyone else's opinion?
I don't mind if you "shit on me". Likewise, expect the same from me if you do so.
Your entire argument is predicated on this strawman that I believe you aren't allowed to have your opinion. You are allowed to have and voice your opinion. Negative viewpoints are allowed to exist and everyone is free to express those viewpoints.
For the record, you do care. You're bringing it up and using highly emotional language on the topic. I don't need a reason to dislike something. I can choose to do what I want. If you actually cared about the reasoning, you'd point out the flaws in the reasoning. You wouldn't be complaining about it. Your entire argument is just you making incorrect assumptions and attacking those strawmen to justify your hurt feelings. Move on.
Art is objective, despite this you are allowed to like what you want and dislike what you want. If art was subjective, why would you care about anyone else's opinion?
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@dabson: I won't deny I'm an emotional person, but I also have limits of patience, same as anyone else. And despite what you think, you DO need a reason. Maybe it's something complex like it you find something in the contents offensive for x, y, or z reason. Or maybe it's something simple because it just rubs you the wrong way. Regardless, whether you dislike (or like) something is ALWAYS for a reason. I've never come across a situation from anyone, no matter how irrational, where it wasn't. Your assumptions it's hurt feelings is incorrect, pure and simple. It's ok to be wrong.
And yes, I agree that the malarkey about not being allowed to have an opinion is stupid an inane. Whether you like or dislike something is your own and you have the right to express it. Ergo, art IS subjective. But again, you missed the point entirely. I don't care about those situations. At all. Whatsoever. Trying to press this point is just spinning us in circles.
What I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about are the knuckleheads trying to hate on something because it's cool to do so. Like I said before, there's ALWAYS a reason. You don't like the MC because it grates your own personality. You don't like the story because it's boring. You don't like the art because it's ugly. And there's nothing wrong with that! Those are your tastes and no one should bash you for having different tastes!
But when your only answer is "it's trash lol because I said so," you're not expressing an opinion. You're being an idiot trying to fit in with the "cool" kids. I've seen it too often here and elsewhere (as in face-to-face as well as online) to be convinced otherwise. THESE are the people who grate me. Not the ones who dislike a manga.
Hope that cleared up the confusion for ya.
And yes, I agree that the malarkey about not being allowed to have an opinion is stupid an inane. Whether you like or dislike something is your own and you have the right to express it. Ergo, art IS subjective. But again, you missed the point entirely. I don't care about those situations. At all. Whatsoever. Trying to press this point is just spinning us in circles.
What I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about are the knuckleheads trying to hate on something because it's cool to do so. Like I said before, there's ALWAYS a reason. You don't like the MC because it grates your own personality. You don't like the story because it's boring. You don't like the art because it's ugly. And there's nothing wrong with that! Those are your tastes and no one should bash you for having different tastes!
But when your only answer is "it's trash lol because I said so," you're not expressing an opinion. You're being an idiot trying to fit in with the "cool" kids. I've seen it too often here and elsewhere (as in face-to-face as well as online) to be convinced otherwise. THESE are the people who grate me. Not the ones who dislike a manga.
Hope that cleared up the confusion for ya.
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Tbh, as much as I don’t wanna read this anymore, the art it still fabulous. Probably the hospital scenes the most, it felt damp, heavy, opaque(?) it just fit the mood so much, as much as I don’t want grandma Sayuri to die, it would be such a waste if, after all this, nothing tragic happens.
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@TwilightFaze
As much as I agree with both your and dabson’s points, I don’t necessarily agree that something NEEDS a reason, although it is much better if you do something with a reason, you are definitely free from having none.
Also on your point in needing a reason to hate on the mc, they’re hating the mc because, in your words, it is cool to do so, you have your answer, that’s the reason.
As much as I agree with both your and dabson’s points, I don’t necessarily agree that something NEEDS a reason, although it is much better if you do something with a reason, you are definitely free from having none.
Also on your point in needing a reason to hate on the mc, they’re hating the mc because, in your words, it is cool to do so, you have your answer, that’s the reason.
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Look, I don't care if people say it gets better or whatnot but this is just unreadable to me. all of the characters are just either so dense, annoying or malicious that it makes reading this just feel like a punishment instead of entertainment. I am baffled that this has made it this far without being dropped.
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@Thoxi1026: Hating on the MC? I got nothing. Hating because it's cool to do so? That's not a reason and we all know it. It's an excuse and stupid one at that.
I will concede on not NEEDING a reason, but in my experience, everyone DOES have one whether they realize it or not. Those who don't have a reason typically don't have a real reason to hate either except to stroke their own ego. I'm sure everyone here can think of circumstances how that wouldn't be a reason here that's not manga-related either. If it doesn't work there, it doesn't work here. Plain and simple.
But I'll choose to "agree to disagree." Like I said, it grinds my gears, but if we're truly honest with one another? We're not gonna change any minds. I expressed myself, you expressed yourself, dabson expressed themselves.
@Freestyle: Read above, buddy. I got no complex on the manga. Hell, I'm not even TALKING about the manga; just these tweens who think they're cool with a hive-mind mentality.
As far as the manga itself goes, I enjoy it, but that's just me. People hate the MC? Cool. I can see why. The art. Yeah, not for everyone. The story? Sure, I can see how it'd be slow for others. All valid and totally understandable why someone would think it's trash-tier and rate it a 0. I got NOTHING for these folks.
People who don't have a reason? All you remind me is those people who talk big but can't think for themselves. Like it's too hard, so it's much easier to parrot someone else to look cool and edgy or think you're a badass wise man on the mountain. Something. You know the type. You can't tell me you don't find such people annoying.
I will concede on not NEEDING a reason, but in my experience, everyone DOES have one whether they realize it or not. Those who don't have a reason typically don't have a real reason to hate either except to stroke their own ego. I'm sure everyone here can think of circumstances how that wouldn't be a reason here that's not manga-related either. If it doesn't work there, it doesn't work here. Plain and simple.
But I'll choose to "agree to disagree." Like I said, it grinds my gears, but if we're truly honest with one another? We're not gonna change any minds. I expressed myself, you expressed yourself, dabson expressed themselves.
@Freestyle: Read above, buddy. I got no complex on the manga. Hell, I'm not even TALKING about the manga; just these tweens who think they're cool with a hive-mind mentality.
As far as the manga itself goes, I enjoy it, but that's just me. People hate the MC? Cool. I can see why. The art. Yeah, not for everyone. The story? Sure, I can see how it'd be slow for others. All valid and totally understandable why someone would think it's trash-tier and rate it a 0. I got NOTHING for these folks.
People who don't have a reason? All you remind me is those people who talk big but can't think for themselves. Like it's too hard, so it's much easier to parrot someone else to look cool and edgy or think you're a badass wise man on the mountain. Something. You know the type. You can't tell me you don't find such people annoying.
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How dare u call me a tween, jk
All jokes aside, I completely agree with you, everything has a reason, but not every time do we need to know what it is. Also, I don’t necessarily think I have a hive-mind mentality with Dabson, though I won’t point it out, there are things I disagree about him with, and I do think you’re in the right on the argument between u two (probably even this, but I won’t necessarily call this an argument). Also, yeh, I don’t like the mc, but not without reason (i will comment about it if you want to), and also, the art? Really? Wow, didn’t know some people didn’t enjoy the art, I even praised the art but I guess not everyone thinks that. Also, I’d rate this a 7 (still good but hard to read), I would still recommend this to people. Also, about this “All you remind me is those people who talk big but can't think for themselves. Like it's too hard, so it's much easier to parrot someone else to look cool and edgy or think you're a badass wise man on the mountain. Something. You know the type. You can't tell me you don't find such people annoying.” No, I don’t really find them annoying, although they are a sight for sore eyes, sorry if I seemed like that to you.
Thanks for reading my (probably) very messy response, really appreciate your easy to read, split in paragraphs response, but I don’t necessarily have the patience to do that, sorry 😐.
Note: probably a ton of grammatical errors, forgive me, pls? 😣😣😣
Edit:If u had something that u didn’t understand, I’ll try to explain them to u
Also, my response to ur first paragraph(?), hating on a celebrity? I got nothing, hating on a celebrity because all ur friends are doing so? That’s not a reason and we all know it. It’s an excuse and a stupid one at that. Could also be called just getting into the bandwagon tho. Still, I don’t agree with them just hating on the mc because, as you said, it’s cool to do so. But this is something that happens everywhere, I won’t really call it an excuse tho.
How dare u call me a tween, jk
All jokes aside, I completely agree with you, everything has a reason, but not every time do we need to know what it is. Also, I don’t necessarily think I have a hive-mind mentality with Dabson, though I won’t point it out, there are things I disagree about him with, and I do think you’re in the right on the argument between u two (probably even this, but I won’t necessarily call this an argument). Also, yeh, I don’t like the mc, but not without reason (i will comment about it if you want to), and also, the art? Really? Wow, didn’t know some people didn’t enjoy the art, I even praised the art but I guess not everyone thinks that. Also, I’d rate this a 7 (still good but hard to read), I would still recommend this to people. Also, about this “All you remind me is those people who talk big but can't think for themselves. Like it's too hard, so it's much easier to parrot someone else to look cool and edgy or think you're a badass wise man on the mountain. Something. You know the type. You can't tell me you don't find such people annoying.” No, I don’t really find them annoying, although they are a sight for sore eyes, sorry if I seemed like that to you.
Thanks for reading my (probably) very messy response, really appreciate your easy to read, split in paragraphs response, but I don’t necessarily have the patience to do that, sorry 😐.
Note: probably a ton of grammatical errors, forgive me, pls? 😣😣😣
Edit:If u had something that u didn’t understand, I’ll try to explain them to u
Also, my response to ur first paragraph(?), hating on a celebrity? I got nothing, hating on a celebrity because all ur friends are doing so? That’s not a reason and we all know it. It’s an excuse and a stupid one at that. Could also be called just getting into the bandwagon tho. Still, I don’t agree with them just hating on the mc because, as you said, it’s cool to do so. But this is something that happens everywhere, I won’t really call it an excuse tho.
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Reading this manga for 150ch .... here's my impression (Kinda forced myself to read it at first.)
Personally for me, this manga about 'journey of POS MC to Gradually Decent Human being' .... the charm begin to take effect for me after 100-ish chapters
the story kinda heavy for me, not the usual 'happy go lucky' story, but wonderfull at later chapters when finally MC gradually regain control of his d!ck.
TBH it feels like walking on buch of thumb tacks at earlier chapters, i always want to at least land a slap into MC face afer reading few chapters.
And now Mami is the prime target for that slap in the face .... you'll see the reason why at chapter 77 .... i got bad premonition from it.
Personally for me, this manga about 'journey of POS MC to Gradually Decent Human being' .... the charm begin to take effect for me after 100-ish chapters
the story kinda heavy for me, not the usual 'happy go lucky' story, but wonderfull at later chapters when finally MC gradually regain control of his d!ck.
TBH it feels like walking on buch of thumb tacks at earlier chapters, i always want to at least land a slap into MC face afer reading few chapters.
And now Mami is the prime target for that slap in the face .... you'll see the reason why at chapter 77 .... i got bad premonition from it.
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This fucking series
From time to time I feel compelled to read the latest chapter and it's allways 10/10 but every time I try to pick it up I can never force myself to read past the first 20 chapters.
How can there so much gold buried behind such filthy thrash. Though there's not much point to reading chapter 150 if I haven't read chapter 50 so it remains dropped
From time to time I feel compelled to read the latest chapter and it's allways 10/10 but every time I try to pick it up I can never force myself to read past the first 20 chapters.
How can there so much gold buried behind such filthy thrash. Though there's not much point to reading chapter 150 if I haven't read chapter 50 so it remains dropped
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@shinobu Its so bad that you want to continue reading to see if it gets better.
Honesty my feelings go back and forth depending on the chapters. It does flounder around until really they start the make a movie sequence. personally i do connect with the mc due to my past self, was similar to this till around 14. i get alot of cringe vibes which still happens during the whole movie sequence, but its better cringe.
Part of me wishes Mc would go with sumi since their relationship is actually built of more what builds a relationship, so i feel bad that she kinda gets the friend zoned category.
@TeddyLoid community posts are useful for seeing what your target audience thinks, granted not so much on here, but alot of it is to see if people relate to what you think or not. personally like the grab my popcorn comments since its amusing to read. people can dislike stuff and say what they want. but when you get to the point where kazuya masturbates to his ex girlfriend , either in the anime or manga, it throws up so many red flags of creepiness that you feel disgusted or laugh at the character.
Honesty my feelings go back and forth depending on the chapters. It does flounder around until really they start the make a movie sequence. personally i do connect with the mc due to my past self, was similar to this till around 14. i get alot of cringe vibes which still happens during the whole movie sequence, but its better cringe.
Part of me wishes Mc would go with sumi since their relationship is actually built of more what builds a relationship, so i feel bad that she kinda gets the friend zoned category.
@TeddyLoid community posts are useful for seeing what your target audience thinks, granted not so much on here, but alot of it is to see if people relate to what you think or not. personally like the grab my popcorn comments since its amusing to read. people can dislike stuff and say what they want. but when you get to the point where kazuya masturbates to his ex girlfriend , either in the anime or manga, it throws up so many red flags of creepiness that you feel disgusted or laugh at the character.
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