Saihate no Paladin - Vol. 12 Ch. 56

[NotALewdGuy]

THE WINDS IS PUSHING ME

 

[Woofzer]

NOOOOOOOOO I NEEEEEEED MOREEEEEEEE

 

[MCX01]

The way the conversation went it was more akin to a battle of words than just chatter.

 

[dethduck]

In the Great 'Cake Or Death' debate, William G. Maryblood chose 'Death'.

 

[alfirizkyr]

Every chapter with Valacirca has been straight fire with bone-chilling panels and lines, so hyped for the battle. Saihate no Paladin continues to deliver.

 

[yibis]

AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Magnificent! just pure bliss, they way Will understood what the Dragon was trying to do and the way everything build up to a "You're worthy of being their succesor"

If dragon words are linked to the "power of words" then the moment Valacirca told Will he was a True Hero he gave a power boost to Will unconsciously

Probably consciously so that he could have a better fight

 

[KaisarX]

An otaku pandering, stock-standard trash isekai would've had Valacirca accept Will's counter offer and then conveniently turn the dragon into some big-breasted woman (if not a loli) who then joins a harem of other tropey, generic women lusting after him. I am super glad this is not one of those, and by this fact alone makes this story very memorable in the sea of isekai out there.

I think it was a mistake to consider this story "isekai" in the first place.


Considering how Will existence is a forgiveness giving to a normal human who die a normal way. I think of this as a fantasy genre more.

IDK how to put this into word. But I hope ya get what I mean

PS: I love this manga so much

 

[Coldlight]

IDK how to put this into word. But I hope ya get what I mean

I feel like you mean: "this feels like a top-tier fantasy" (it is, and because isekai is just a subgenre of fantasy but not the other way around: something can be both isekai and fantasy, but not all fantasies are isekai), Due to the fact that Will had a past life in the modern world and has memories of that past life, this is still technically an isekai, no matter how we slice it, even if we don't like it.

By definition, isekai just refers to stories about people that have been transported/reincarnated to another world. Plain and simple. It's just not the tropey, mass-produced OP harem garbage isekai that most people know, but I have no problems considering this an isekai, and to me this is both a top-tier fantasy and a top-tier isekai.

 

[KaisarX]

I feel like you mean: "this feels like a top-tier fantasy" (it is, and because isekai is just a subgenre of fantasy but not the other way around: something can be both isekai and fantasy, but not all fantasies are isekai), Due to the fact that Will had a past life in the modern world and has memories of that past life, this is still technically an isekai, no matter how we slice it, even if we don't like it.

By definition, isekai just refers to stories about people that have been transported/reincarnated to another world. Plain and simple. It's just not the tropey, mass-produced OP harem garbage isekai that most people know, but I have no problems considering this an isekai, and to me this is both a top-tier fantasy and a top-tier isekai.

yeah fair.
but compare to most isekai where MC is average JP cuck who use the knowledge of his previous world to flex on thug per/town that have death wish.
the only time his past life ever matter is about his lack of "living" which is a major theme in the first arc of the story and affect the rest of the story. (and it even show in an off-screen 1 panel which empasize how unimpotant where Will(earth) come from is)
so for me it less of a : "isekai where mc come from our world" and more " a heroic fantasy tale where main character have a reget in past life and chose to live more proudly"
yeah it isekai. but it focus on a fantasy world and Will(fantasy) more than earth world and Will(earth)
so i think it a bit unfair to compare this story to isekai. it like sending the rock to round house a kinder garden.
this story is just the best.

but to put it more simple i feel like this story is "hero saga of will" and not "will come to fantasy world and start shinanegang"
where the first is well craft story that have ending point and lesson to tell.
the latter is just what-if normal human have fun in world that have magic


sorry for the long wind word it can not explain how much i love this story. plus a chad paladin wearing light armor using spear.

it scratc an itch so deep i never know it exist
who know maybe i will just start a youtube chanel just to explain how much i want to suck author dick

 

[jeezits]

I guarantee the author said "Hey I got this awesome fantasy series" the publisher went "okay but make it an isekai so it'll sell because that's what's hot right now and it's always cool to do the same thing as five thousand other titles" and the author went "fine here's three panels saying he came from our world, boom, it's an isekai". It's only an isekai in the most pendantic and trivial sense, otherwise it could have easily not have been and lost absolutely nothing.

 

[TheProtectorOfPureHeartedGirls]

You just had to finish on the wonderful part... I need more chapters!

 

[Piamette]

I guarantee the author said "Hey I got this awesome fantasy series" the publisher went "okay but make it an isekai so it'll sell because that's what's hot right now and it's always cool to do the same thing as five thousand other titles" and the author went "fine here's three panels saying he came from our world, boom, it's an isekai". It's only an isekai in the most pendantic and trivial sense, otherwise it could have easily not have been and lost absolutely nothing.

It's only too likely that he opted to make it an isekai to attract a bigger fanbase, but time and again it's been used to further develop William as he remembers what he once was. That's the only thing I disagree with; which goes to show the writer's prowess in not losing a firm hold of the core of the story, despite making a market decision, and this should not be overlooked either.

 

[Zael]

Epic!

 

[Wolfhat]

With the slaying of a dragon in his early legacy, I can't wait to see what he fights or speaks to like this in the future.
First time in a while I enjoyed a battle of words.

 

[TucoBenedicto]

With all the series that try so hard to "subvert fantasy tropes" it's interesting to me that one of the best written and interesting around is the one that plays everything straight: present the world like a real place rather than a videogame, have classic fantasy races that more or less match their traditional archetypes, have paladins who are actually faithful to a god AND virtuous rather than rambling fools, have dragons who are the incarnation of power and malice rather than pets or waifus, etc.

 

[Vergift]

ngl, while I'd like to see how a peaceful resolution would look like, I'm glad we got to see them at least fight Valacirca.

Thanks for the translation!

There is no peaceful resolution for this dragon. Valacirca is a self-centered, egotistical dragon who knows what he wants the most. And he wants war, strive, catastrophe, treasures, and heroes. He lives by those ideal.

The peace he proposed only the peace between him and Will, but not the peace for the innocents. He will conspire or instigate Will's enemy to fight Will while obediently stay under Will's command. Will have no choice to fight back, and surely he will use Valacirca as a weapon. It will create calamity in the process and make the innocents suffer. To see and let the innocents suffer is against Will's oath.

That's why, there's no peace resolution for this war-loving dragon. No negotiation. All negotiation with that dragon will always boils down to fight him now or later.

It's probably also the reason why Stagnate propose to stay away from Valacirca now. He's a God. He probably knew and understand how Valacirca operates. He didn't want Will to fall into Valacirca's hands. If Will fall into Valacirca's hand, Stagnate probably won't recognize Will as a hero anymore.

 

[DanJADO]

It ended just as a classic JRPG final boss battle starts. AWESOME! XD

 

[LaurielLevane]

THE PLOOOOOOOT THE PLOT IS GOING SO FUCKING STRONG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Fari]

Sheesh, I chose a heck of a time to catch up on like 20 chaps, right into the dragon hanger

 

[Piamette]

Well...

Spoiler

It's currently translated up to chapter 58.1. Wonder if this holdup over here specifically has anything to do with Mangadex bending the knee to J-Novel Club.