Sasha-chan to Classmate Otaku-kun - Vol. 3 Ch. 38 - Their First Time.

[Plippity]

Honestly I'm over the SF reveal thing at this point, like it's not great, but as long as he's not actively being cucked in the present, it's bearable. Let's keep the wholesomeness running.

The only thing I'm dreading right now is whatever the fuck is going on with the most recent raw chapter. I'm like 50% sure it's some NTR bait, but if it's actually a threesome with her former FWB I don't know if I can stomach it.

 

[CaponNC]

That's unclear unless the author releases some kind of timeline.

Spoiler: paste of previous comment

I scoured the doujin to see what the author usually draws and how the stories go so here come the nhentai numbers


500324 pages 6, 7 and 8

499822 pages 103 (author talks about IF and NTR routes) this whole upload seems to be a "Futoshi route" with side stories and/or alternative routes, I mean, first she says she speaks Russian because his father doesn't understand Japanese then later says her father taught her Japanese lol, also says her parents separated for the third time and mom brought her to Japan, page 220 talks about jealousy sex, page 285 spoilers at the bottom, page 315 jealousy sex Fake? Maybe like chapter 71/72?

492124 page 5 MC is not his boyfriend yet, they've had sex multiple times tho, no idea where in the serialized timeline this would go.

544195 page 9, "if I ever get a boyfriend I would never cheat on him" but if he agrees it's not cheating I guess page 27 this Manga goes before Futoshi and states that no cheating after Futoshi.


TLDR: Haguhagu seems of the mind that Sasha doesn't cheat once she has a formal boyfriend and has drawn MC stating that he wants Sasha for himself.


Of course he still draws the "IF routes" or 【IFルート】 which seem to be the serialized universe NTR (or maybe these came first the he decided to create the serialized universe, I don't know lol)


So at the end of the day it's up in the air but given how MC has been shown posesive I'd say it's OK to keep reading this until MC does a 180 and is perfectly fine with NTR or there's actual sex implied after Sasha and MC becoming a couple if ever. Chapter 72 will be important lol.

Ehhh, that sounds like a bit of cope, imo. Inconsistent timeline or not, I stand by my statement. The tamest of the doujinshis often has Sasha pimping herself out or by someone else, extorted for money, slapped around, and worse. Even one or two of them of them being canon puts this manga in a dark place.

 

[shinshom]

That's unclear unless the author releases some kind of timeline.

Spoiler: paste of previous comment

I scoured the doujin to see what the author usually draws and how the stories go so here come the nhentai numbers


500324 pages 6, 7 and 8

499822 pages 103 (author talks about IF and NTR routes) this whole upload seems to be a "Futoshi route" with side stories and/or alternative routes, I mean, first she says she speaks Russian because his father doesn't understand Japanese then later says her father taught her Japanese lol, also says her parents separated for the third time and mom brought her to Japan, page 220 talks about jealousy sex, page 285 spoilers at the bottom, page 315 jealousy sex Fake? Maybe like chapter 71/72?

492124 page 5 MC is not his boyfriend yet, they've had sex multiple times tho, no idea where in the serialized timeline this would go.

544195 page 9, "if I ever get a boyfriend I would never cheat on him" but if he agrees it's not cheating I guess page 27 this Manga goes before Futoshi and states that no cheating after Futoshi.


TLDR: Haguhagu seems of the mind that Sasha doesn't cheat once she has a formal boyfriend and has drawn MC stating that he wants Sasha for himself.


Of course he still draws the "IF routes" or 【IFルート】 which seem to be the serialized universe NTR (or maybe these came first the he decided to create the serialized universe, I don't know lol)


So at the end of the day it's up in the air but given how MC has been shown posesive I'd say it's OK to keep reading this until MC does a 180 and is perfectly fine with NTR or there's actual sex implied after Sasha and MC becoming a couple if ever. Chapter 72 will be important lol.

feels like the more its given chances, he more it disapoints... idk man XD.... if the ntr aspect is giving views, u better bet thats what the aurhor gonna do...

 

[lordchecha]

That's unclear unless the author releases some kind of timeline.

Spoiler: paste of previous comment

I scoured the doujin to see what the author usually draws and how the stories go so here come the nhentai numbers


500324 pages 6, 7 and 8

499822 pages 103 (author talks about IF and NTR routes) this whole upload seems to be a "Futoshi route" with side stories and/or alternative routes, I mean, first she says she speaks Russian because his father doesn't understand Japanese then later says her father taught her Japanese lol, also says her parents separated for the third time and mom brought her to Japan, page 220 talks about jealousy sex, page 285 spoilers at the bottom, page 315 jealousy sex Fake? Maybe like chapter 71/72?

492124 page 5 MC is not his boyfriend yet, they've had sex multiple times tho, no idea where in the serialized timeline this would go.

544195 page 9, "if I ever get a boyfriend I would never cheat on him" but if he agrees it's not cheating I guess page 27 this Manga goes before Futoshi and states that no cheating after Futoshi.


TLDR: Haguhagu seems of the mind that Sasha doesn't cheat once she has a formal boyfriend and has drawn MC stating that he wants Sasha for himself.


Of course he still draws the "IF routes" or 【IFルート】 which seem to be the serialized universe NTR (or maybe these came first the he decided to create the serialized universe, I don't know lol)


So at the end of the day it's up in the air but given how MC has been shown posesive I'd say it's OK to keep reading this until MC does a 180 and is perfectly fine with NTR or there's actual sex implied after Sasha and MC becoming a couple if ever. Chapter 72 will be important lol.

yeah, actually I think everything will be decided by the next raw chapter, we'll see if the author decides to go full into his degeneracy or if it will continue just with ntr-bait for this serialization.

I really doubt the author has everything figured out, he just seems to do whatever strikes his fancy at the moment.

 

[arcosapphire]

That happens in the doujinshis. Sasha is a continuation of the author's pet loli character from pre-serialization, which have been retconned into canon. Sasha has been groomed, pimped out, passed around, and financially exploited all the way up to the current release.

I know about the other stories, but I'm talking about this story. This one has a very different vibe from them. I'm only going by what has been shown in this continuity.

 

[Attqqqq]

Stop jorkin your peanits go back to wholesome

 

[shinshom]

I know about the other stories, but I'm talking about this story. This one has a very different vibe from them. I'm only going by what has been shown in this continuity.

from where the raw shows, doesnt look like its going on a good direction...

 

[fumokaze]

Did you skip to the latest chap of this manga by any chance?

Cause her character archtype is the LEAST controversial thing about her if you knew who she was.

and that's exactly why I only said it was unoriginal

 

[Kushikime]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[Dingo777]

Real talk I follow the comment threads just to keep updated on where things are at in the raws so I know when to drop

 

[Ensashapedia]

Spoiler: Full explanation of manga route, doujins, author.

I think some people are fundamentally misunderstanding what's going on with this manga. Also how some people are saying Hagu is a big NTR writer. First I'll address the NTR.

Hagu obviously likes NTR, but he's never made it a main theme of any of his primary works. It really only appears as side material/"what if" routes that don't actually happen in their respective stories. It's something he toys around with, but doesn't usually make a part of his stories. Prior to the Otaku-kun manga, the people hooking up with Sasha are all aware that she's basically a prostitute.

That's changed somewhat with the Otaku-kun manga we are all here reading. It's changed because this time it involves both her and the MC who have feelings for each other. There are people convinced that she hasn't had sex with anyone since meeting Master at the beginning of the manga. This is unlikely to be the case. Hagu has said several times that Sasha will ALWAYS remain true to herself and that it's Master that will awaken to his wilder side. From chapter 1-30. Yes, she's very likely still having sex. From 30-67, unfortunately yes, she's probably still having sex, though we do have clues she's at least reduced that behavior.

Now we have the current arc, where she has voluntold Master he's to be a part of a threesome. As other's have pointed out, Sasha is Hagu's pet character. His angel. She can do no wrong in this story, and everyone around her has to accommodate any and all of her behavior. From the author's perspective she's never in the wrong and she loves what she's done/has had done to her. From here on, expect more extreme situations closer to NTR, possibly even cucking if she decides Master should watch her for more ideas for his EroManga.

Now onto the manga itself again. This is not going back to "wholesome". Every 15-20 chapters we've seen an escalation, and a new standard baseline. The first major escalation comes with chapter 30-33 where we find out she has sex friends. It then ramps up from there with increasing sexual activity. Chapter 40 is a new minor escalation where he's buying condoms, and even Sasha's school friend Kana joins them for something naughty. From there sexual activity keeps increasing, till we find out Sasha and master have started having sex(but still not dating). Chapter 56, she mentions a "next time" with her senpai as she gets turned on while reading EroManga next to Master. Chapter 65 and 66, she shows Master explicit videos of her having sex with other men. Now with our current arc, where we SEE her being intimate with another man that isn't Master for the first time. So as I said. Escalate, escalate, escalate. Now. it's possible it will be a bait and switch. That's on the table, but I think it's more likely they did the three some(or god forbid) Master gets cold feet and watches them have sex as he takes notes/sketches. Scenario 2 could be possible as it would give Master and Sasha a new arc where she's upset at Master for not getting more aggressive like she wants, and that will give some drama for the following chapters. No matter what, it's another escalation.

Now I'll briefly talk about the doujins. Hagu has stated directly that any doujin that involved Futoshi/fat otaku, does not happen in the Master/Otaku-kun manga. The IF routes, do not happen, those are just Hagu playing around. The doujins with just Master and Sasha(and her gravure friend) MAY be canon, it's debatable. Pachikasu/Pachinko guy, I can't say for sure. Also yes, the Manga Sasha was still a gravure model before entering Jr High and meeting Master.

This was a long post, but I hope it clears things up for people. TL;DR This will never be "wholesome". Master and Sasha will not begin to date and be exclusive any time soon, if ever. The happy ending the author has promised, is probably closer to a nightmare for those who dislike NTR/partner swapping, etc.

 

[Thorgrin]

Spoiler: Full explanation of manga route, doujins, author.

I think some people are fundamentally misunderstanding what's going on with this manga. Also how some people are saying Hagu is a big NTR writer. First I'll address the NTR.

Hagu obviously likes NTR, but he's never made it a main theme of any of his primary works. It really only appears as side material/"what if" routes that don't actually happen in their respective stories. It's something he toys around with, but doesn't usually make a part of his stories. Prior to the Otaku-kun manga, the people hooking up with Sasha are all aware that she's basically a prostitute.

That's changed somewhat with the Otaku-kun manga we are all here reading. It's changed because this time it involves both her and the MC who have feelings for each other. There are people convinced that she hasn't had sex with anyone since meeting Master at the beginning of the manga. This is unlikely to be the case. Hagu has said several times that Sasha will ALWAYS remain true to herself and that it's Master that will awaken to his wilder side. From chapter 1-30. Yes, she's very likely still having sex. From 30-67, unfortunately yes, she's probably still having sex, though we do have clues she's at least reduced that behavior.

Now we have the current arc, where she has voluntold Master he's to be a part of a threesome. As other's have pointed out, Sasha is Hagu's pet character. His angel. She can do no wrong in this story, and everyone around her has to accommodate any and all of her behavior. From the author's perspective she's never in the wrong and she loves what she's done/has had done to her. From here on, expect more extreme situations closer to NTR, possibly even cucking if she decides Master should watch her for more ideas for his EroManga.

Now onto the manga itself again. This is not going back to "wholesome". Every 15-20 chapters we've seen an escalation, and a new standard baseline. The first major escalation comes with chapter 30-33 where we find out she has sex friends. It then ramps up from there with increasing sexual activity. Chapter 40 is a new minor escalation where he's buying condoms, and even Sasha's school friend Kana joins them for something naughty. From there sexual activity keeps increasing, till we find out Sasha and master have started having sex(but still not dating). Chapter 56, she mentions a "next time" with her senpai as she gets turned on while reading EroManga next to Master. Chapter 65 and 66, she shows Master explicit videos of her having sex with other men. Now with our current arc, where we SEE her being intimate with another man that isn't Master for the first time. So as I said. Escalate, escalate, escalate. Now. it's possible it will be a bait and switch. That's on the table, but I think it's more likely they did the three some(or god forbid) Master gets cold feet and watches them have sex as he takes notes/sketches. Scenario 2 could be possible as it would give Master and Sasha a new arc where she's upset at Master for not getting more aggressive like she wants, and that will give some drama for the following chapters. No matter what, it's another escalation.

Now I'll briefly talk about the doujins. Hagu has stated directly that any doujin that involved Futoshi/fat otaku, does not happen in the Master/Otaku-kun manga. The IF routes, do not happen, those are just Hagu playing around. The doujins with just Master and Sasha(and her gravure friend) MAY be canon, it's debatable. Pachikasu/Pachinko guy, I can't say for sure. Also yes, the Manga Sasha was still a gravure model before entering Jr High and meeting Master.

This was a long post, but I hope it clears things up for people. TL;DR This will never be "wholesome". Master and Sasha will not begin to date and be exclusive any time soon, if ever. The happy ending the author has promised, is probably closer to a nightmare for those who dislike NTR/partner swapping, etc.

Spoiler

To clarify: The first two volumes were completely retconned, and Pachikasu has been confirmed as canonical thanks to 30.5 in connection with her sex friend chart (532937). While Hagu may not make NTR front and center in his works, the fact remains that she keeps sleeping around despite the fact that there's always multiple suitors who want her romantically, and they're deeply upset by the arrangement. The NTR is everpresent, even if it's not front and center. So from the very beginning, this series has featured it- starting from the low end of NTR (BSS), all the way to the hard end, where MC's bed becomes the cuck chair, and beyond. 66 confirms that she didn't "reduce her activity", so much as reduce it with Senpai when she got sick of him.

The only way at least some of this NTR is mitigated is if Hagu pulls another Schizo move and decides that the doujins (The non-IF doujins) aren't canon either. I don't think it needs explaining in the first place that the "IF" chapters aren't canonical. It feels weird every single time anyone brings that up; as if "IF" chapters the ONLY time we see Sasha sleeping around with MC in the picture.

 

[Ensashapedia]

Spoiler

To clarify: The first two volumes were completely retconned, and Pachikasu has been confirmed as canonical thanks to 30.5 in connection with her sex friend chart (532937). While Hagu may not make NTR front and center in his works, the fact remains that she keeps sleeping around despite the fact that there's always multiple suitors who want her romantically, and they're deeply upset by the arrangement. The NTR is everpresent, even if it's not front and center. So from the very beginning, this series has featured it- starting from the low end of NTR (BSS), all the way to the hard end, where MC's bed becomes the cuck chair, and beyond. 66 confirms that she didn't "reduce her activity", so much as reduce it with Senpai when she got sick of him.

The only way at least some of this NTR is mitigated is if Hagu pulls another Schizo move and decides that the doujins (The non-IF doujins) aren't canon either. I don't think it needs explaining in the first place that the "IF" chapters aren't canonical. It feels weird every single time anyone brings that up; as if "IF" chapters the ONLY time we see Sasha sleeping around with MC in the picture.

Spoiler

I think you may be confusing a couple things. I did not say that there's no NTR in the manga. I said that as opposed to his other works, it actually DOES take a more active role in the manga. As for Pachikasu. I did not say that I can't tell if HE himself is canon, just whether the doujin he is featured in is or not. Very few of the doujins are Canon at this point, as so many of them are set in the Futoshi world line. Also I am not sure if you're saying that the senpai we see in 30.5 is Pachikasu or only referencing her sex friend chart. 30.5 senpai is the 16 year old senpai from the chart, not Pachikasu.

 

[Thorgrin]

Spoiler

I think you may be confusing a couple things. I did not say that there's no NTR in the manga. I said that as opposed to his other works, it actually DOES take a more active role in the manga. As for Pachikasu. I did not say that I can't tell if HE himself is canon, just whether the doujin he is featured in is or not. Very few of the doujins are Canon at this point, as so many of them are set in the Futoshi world line. Also I am not sure if you're saying that the senpai we see in 30.5 is Pachikasu or only referencing her sex friend chart. 30.5 senpai is the 16 year old senpai from the chart, not Pachikasu.

Spoiler

No, I'm pretty clear on all of this.

30.5 features "Senpai" in the same chart as MC:

MC is in the same chart as Pachikasu:

Sanada-senpai, the one that was retconned into yet another sex friend, doesn't come into this until Chapter 33. We could pretend that all the Jr. Idol doujins aren't canon for the moment and we'd still have direct confirmation from Hagu himself that Pachikasu is canon, that she's in love with the president from the Jr. Idol agency, that she's sleeping around throughout the entire manga (After the retcon), and that this is all contemporary with MC. The only doujins that aren't canon are the "IF" route ones, where Hagu makes it a point to have MC referenced while Sasha is having sex to delve into a harder NTR.

This chart is not part of an "IF" route: "IF" doesn't appear once in the title for the chapter, unlike the actual "IF" chapters.

 

[Ensashapedia]

Spoiler

No, I'm pretty clear on all of this.

30.5 features "Senpai" in the same chart as MC:

MC is in the same chart as Pachikasu:

Sanada-senpai, the one that was retconned into yet another sex friend, doesn't come into this until Chapter 33. We could pretend that all the Jr. Idol doujins aren't canon for the moment and we'd still have direct confirmation from Hagu himself that Pachikasu is canon, that she's in love with the president from the Jr. Idol agency, that she's sleeping around throughout the entire manga (After the retcon), and that this is all contemporary with MC. The only doujins that aren't canon are the "IF" route ones, where Hagu makes it a point to have MC referenced while Sasha is having sex to delve into a harder NTR.

This chart is not part of an "IF" route: "IF" doesn't appear once in the title for the chapter, unlike the actual "IF" chapters.

Spoiler

Ok, no. You and I are on roughly the same page with Pachikasu. Again. I didn't say HE wasn't canon, just that we can't confirm if his doujin is. This assertion that all the doujins are canon is also false. Hagu himself has said that the stuff with the fat otaku(his name is Futoshi) is NOT canon to the serialized manga. Meaning that most of Hagu's work prior to the manga is not canon to it, as it features Futoshi. What's left after that is all debatable because Hagu has refused to commit to a hard canon on any of it. He has mentioned that one day he'd like to draw up a timeline for his Sashaverse, but until that happens. all the doujins MUST be taken with a grain of salt(at least in relation to the serialized manga). President still exists, yes. What we've seen her do with him may or may not still happen. At least in the way we saw it happen, as all those doujin are in Futoshi's world line. Until we get more word from Hagu, the doujin material is in flux.

 

[semon_demon]

Spoiler

personally i hope all cuckstuff is canon and i'd gonna jerk it to the chapter where she shows footage of her taking cock.

 

[Thorgrin]

Spoiler

Ok, no. You and I are on roughly the same page with Pachikasu. Again. I didn't say HE wasn't canon, just that we can't confirm if his doujin is. This assertion that all the doujins are canon is also false. Hagu himself has said that the stuff with the fat otaku(his name is Futoshi) is NOT canon to the serialized manga. Meaning that most of Hagu's work prior to the manga is not canon to it, as it features Futoshi. What's left after that is all debatable because Hagu has refused to commit to a hard canon on any of it. He has mentioned that one day he'd like to draw up a timeline for his Sashaverse, but until that happens. all the doujins MUST be taken with a grain of salt(at least in relation to the serialized manga). President still exists, yes. What we've seen her do with him may or may not still happen. At least in the way we saw it happen, as all those doujin are in Futoshi's world line. Until we get more word from Hagu, the doujin material is in flux.

Spoiler

After a night's rest, I think I get what you're trying to say. The way you were talking about the story, it made it seem like you didn't think her sleeping around on MC was NTR. Really what you were saying was that we're going to SEE more of these NTR situations, as opposed to have them implied by the fact that one of her sex friends likes her, yet she keeps sleeping around. More like what she did to Futoshi in that other canon. Except worse, since Futoshi wasn't voluntold he was going to participate in sharing her.

And yes, I guess it's technically possible that Hagu has a schitzo moment and says the GUYS are canon, along with the fact that they're contemporary to MC, but not the exact DOUJINS they're featured in. But at this point, I think he's given us more than enough to conclude that anything that's not explicitly an "IF" chapter is completely canon now that the Futoshi arc's been over for so long, and she's aged up. Let's agree to disagree there.

 

[Daviidcou]

Spoiler

After a night's rest, I think I get what you're trying to say. The way you were talking about the story, it made it seem like you didn't think her sleeping around on MC was NTR. Really what you were saying was that we're going to SEE more of these NTR situations, as opposed to have them implied by the fact that one of her sex friends likes her, yet she keeps sleeping around. More like what she did to Futoshi in that other canon. Except worse, since Futoshi wasn't voluntold he was going to participate in sharing her.

And yes, I guess it's technically possible that Hagu has a schitzo moment and says the GUYS are canon, along with the fact that they're contemporary to MC, but not the exact DOUJINS they're featured in. But at this point, I think he's given us more than enough to conclude that anything that's not explicitly an "IF" chapter is completely canon now that the Futoshi arc's been over for so long, and she's aged up. Let's agree to disagree there.

Spoiler

It's been stated once or twice that Sasha doesn't cheat once the relationship is formal

Check nhentai

499822 pages 220 and 315
544195 pages 9 and 27

So we will have to see if haguhagu maintains that or not.

You (or rather the author) could also argue that if the MC is OK with it then it's not cheating


Edit: BTW I don't talk about it being NTR or not, to some people it's not because there's no formal relationship between MC and Sasha, to some it is because MC is in love with Sasha even if not a formal couple.
As I see it right now, if I understood correctly, I don't speak Japanese, MC is just another sexfriend, just like the others. and if they're actually going out by ch 72 then we'll have to see ch 73 to see full on/implied NTR or NTS, or if it's simply Sasha riling MC up like Futoshi in 499822 pages 220 and 315

 

[Ensashapedia]

Spoiler

It's been stated once or twice that Sasha doesn't cheat once the relationship is formal

Check nhentai

499822 pages 220 and 315
544195 pages 9 and 27

So we will have to see if haguhagu maintains that or not.

You (or rather the author) could also argue that if the MC is OK with it then it's not cheating


Edit: BTW I don't talk about it being NTR or not, to some people it's not because there's no formal relationship between MC and Sasha, to some it is because MC is in love with Sasha even if not a formal couple.
As I see it right now, if I understood correctly, I don't speak Japanese, MC is just another sexfriend, just like the others. and if they're actually going out by ch 72 then we'll have to see ch 73 to see full on/implied NTR or NTS, or if it's simply Sasha riling MC up like Futoshi in 499822 pages 220 and 315

Spoiler

I'm sorry but this is cope. The Futoshi doujins are largely irrelevant to this version of Sasha, and the author has tried to tell people repeatedly that if you're uncomfortable with seeing Sasha with other men, to probably not read his manga.

I'll refer you to this fanbox post from Oct 31, 2024. https://haghag.fanbox.cc/posts/8802882

Hagu is spelling it out straight for everyone. He's getting bored of just making lovely dovey stuff with just Master and Sasha and wants to totally unleash her "twisted sexual inclinations". This manga is going to get SO. MUCH. WORSE.

Something else I learned. If it's on the fanbox, it's canon to the manga, if it's on Fanita or somewhere else, it is not. I wish I knew that when I made the large explanation post yesterday, but there it is.

The author has been increasingly into NTR, NTS the past year. He thirst posts about Sasha on his Twitter all the time, even as recently as today.

MC and Sasha are not going to enter into a formal relationship anytime soon, because it ties Hagu down too much. (even though he can easily get around this by just making MC ok with everything, which he's doing already)

 

[Thorgrin]

Spoiler

I'm sorry but this is cope. The Futoshi doujins are largely irrelevant to this version of Sasha, and the author has tried to tell people repeatedly that if you're uncomfortable with seeing Sasha with other men, to probably not read his manga.

I'll refer you to this fanbox post from Oct 31, 2024. https://haghag.fanbox.cc/posts/8802882

Hagu is spelling it out straight for everyone. He's getting bored of just making lovely dovey stuff with just Master and Sasha and wants to totally unleash her "twisted sexual inclinations". This manga is going to get SO. MUCH. WORSE.

Something else I learned. If it's on the fanbox, it's canon to the manga, if it's on Fanita or somewhere else, it is not. I wish I knew that when I made the large explanation post yesterday, but there it is.

The author has been increasingly into NTR, NTS the past year. He thirst posts about Sasha on his Twitter all the time, even as recently as today.

MC and Sasha are not going to enter into a formal relationship anytime soon, because it ties Hagu down too much. (even though he can easily get around this by just making MC ok with everything, which he's doing already)

Spoiler

Hagu's clearly spent so much time working with Sasha that he's increasingly desensitized to all her antics. We've honestly come all the way from a simple rape scene 11 years ago to an insatiable NTR turbo slut and her power cuck. His latest doujin, featuring the as-of-yet-untouched Komori-chan is leagues more fucked up than anything he's put out to date. She chooses to stay with her dad, who's the director for all the gravure/porn videos the "JR. Idols" shoot. She wants to be allowed to film in the next porno they had planned, and her dad basically tells her he won't let her do it until she learns to love cock. So she spends the rest of the story basically sleeping with random men as "homework", and eventually ends up prey to Sasha and the president.

This series was clearly the thing that pushed him over the edge, with him working on basically the same story for months, sometimes for over a year, with barely any time to switch gears and re-sensitize.

That said, how did you learn that Fanbox=Canon and Not Fanbox=Not Canon? And how does that fit with the fact that he drew her with a sex friend that's apparently not part of the Fanbox content?