Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan - Ch. 100 - Dignified

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good job guys, now you set the precedent that anyone who switches sides to you will be executed, that's definitely gonna help you in the future. you could have denied his petition instead you used it to lure him into a trap and execute him.
 
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good job guys, now you set the precedent that anyone who switches sides to you will be executed, that's definitely gonna help you in the future. you could have denied his petition instead you used it to lure him into a trap and execute him.
they showed that they have no use for traitors.
there were others before who publicly switched sides / submitted to Nobunaga and these guys are very much alive.
 
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they showed that they have no use for traitors.
there were others before who publicly switched sides / submitted to Nobunaga and these guys are very much alive.
"they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...
you do understand switching sides is treason right? but good thing there's a chance you switch side and the side you switch to won't execute you. again they could have just denied his petition that way they aren't destroying future defection.
 
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Simply switching sides when you honorably lost is not treason. If you switched side when you were honor bound to protect, fight till the end, etc. Is treason.
It's all about if you had responsibility, and you abounded that responsibility to save your life.
 
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Simply switching sides when you honorably lost is not treason. If you switched side when you were honor bound to protect, fight till the end, etc. Is treason.
It's all about if you had responsibility, and you abounded that responsibility to save your life.
It is always treason. Your pledge, as long as it's not coming from the one in the absolute top, is towards your feudal lord, not towards the people living in it. That's what the warlords period in japan was structured like
 
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"they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...
you do understand switching sides is treason right? but good thing there's a chance you switch side and the side you switch to won't execute you. again they could have just denied his petition that way they aren't destroying future defection.
Not the same thing. Publicly choosing to support a different side and lead the army under your command is one thing, conspiring to assassinate your lord while still pretending to be a loyal retainer is another.

That lord also mentioned what exactly made him so angry - not the fact that he betrayed him, but the fact that there was no pride in that. All he did was for himself, it was a deed of a selfish traitorous rat. Lord would have forgave him, if his betrayal was bargaining chip to protect people that lord failed to do, but he tried to use that bargaining chip all to himself.

I'm not a fan of that decision myself, but those two situation are definitely not the same.
 
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I'm kind of lost since it's been a while. Could someone give me a recap of what happened before?

The Asakura and Azai (sans Oda's Sister and her Husband's (Azai Clan Head) family) teamed with Takeda Shinden and the Warrior Monks to try and stop the Oda's rise to power. Shinden was eliminated as a threat a few chapters ago, and now the Oda decided to deal with the Asakura/Azai alliance.

The Asakura were targeted first, which led to the ending in this chapter. Next is the Azai, where Oda's brother in law is going to kill his father for betraying and trying to kill them.
 
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Being a gentle lover of the arts in a time of brutality must have been hell in some ways.

He still had led his people to prosperity and cultural advancement... unfortunately, the world around him was still too wild to appreciate it.

So many moments in history, where art, knowledge, and literature have been destroyed in a vain show of shallow "might", because they feared what those things represented for the people that had helped build it.

But in the end, we look back at it as exactly what they are... childish temper tantrums of small people.
 

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"they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...
you do understand switching sides is treason right? but good thing there's a chance you switch side and the side you switch to won't execute you. again they could have just denied his petition that way they aren't destroying future defection.
there is a difference in doing something in public vs doing something behind the backs of someone.
its also a difference if you try to activly harm your old affiliates vs. leaving peacefully.

its one thing to quit your job and joining a new company, but its a completely different matter if your are stealing corporate secrets to ingratiate yourself with a new employer.
not a perfect comparison, but I hope you understand what I mean.
 
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there is a difference in doing something in public vs doing something behind the backs of someone.
its also a difference if you try to activly harm your old affiliates vs. leaving peacefully.

its one thing to quit your job and joining a new company, but its a completely different matter if your are stealing corporate secrets to ingratiate yourself with a new employer.
not a perfect comparison, but I hope you understand what I mean.
what part of "i'm joining the enemy to fight on their side against my previous clan and allies" is leaving peacefully? the ones who abandon their old allegiances to join Oda and fight against their former friends are not leaving peacefully, whether they leave with their former lords head as a gift to Oda or not it doesn't change it, traitor = traitor, you can't just say "no these guys are the good traitors but that guy is the bad traitor" when both sides are betraying their side and allying with Oda to fight against their former side.

this ain't office politics, this is war my dude, you can't compare it with switching jobs.
 

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