they showed that they have no use for traitors.good job guys, now you set the precedent that anyone who switches sides to you will be executed, that's definitely gonna help you in the future. you could have denied his petition instead you used it to lure him into a trap and execute him.
"they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...they showed that they have no use for traitors.
there were others before who publicly switched sides / submitted to Nobunaga and these guys are very much alive.
It is always treason. Your pledge, as long as it's not coming from the one in the absolute top, is towards your feudal lord, not towards the people living in it. That's what the warlords period in japan was structured likeSimply switching sides when you honorably lost is not treason. If you switched side when you were honor bound to protect, fight till the end, etc. Is treason.
It's all about if you had responsibility, and you abounded that responsibility to save your life.
Not the same thing. Publicly choosing to support a different side and lead the army under your command is one thing, conspiring to assassinate your lord while still pretending to be a loyal retainer is another."they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...
you do understand switching sides is treason right? but good thing there's a chance you switch side and the side you switch to won't execute you. again they could have just denied his petition that way they aren't destroying future defection.
I'm kind of lost since it's been a while. Could someone give me a recap of what happened before?
there is a difference in doing something in public vs doing something behind the backs of someone."they have no use for traitors" while right after saying how they have several others who have switched sides...
you do understand switching sides is treason right? but good thing there's a chance you switch side and the side you switch to won't execute you. again they could have just denied his petition that way they aren't destroying future defection.
what part of "i'm joining the enemy to fight on their side against my previous clan and allies" is leaving peacefully? the ones who abandon their old allegiances to join Oda and fight against their former friends are not leaving peacefully, whether they leave with their former lords head as a gift to Oda or not it doesn't change it, traitor = traitor, you can't just say "no these guys are the good traitors but that guy is the bad traitor" when both sides are betraying their side and allying with Oda to fight against their former side.there is a difference in doing something in public vs doing something behind the backs of someone.
its also a difference if you try to activly harm your old affiliates vs. leaving peacefully.
its one thing to quit your job and joining a new company, but its a completely different matter if your are stealing corporate secrets to ingratiate yourself with a new employer.
not a perfect comparison, but I hope you understand what I mean.