Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan: Noukou Giga - Vol. 18 Ch. 90 - Wandering

[KuraiTora]

technically possible.
irl Galileo was born 1564 and died 1641
meanwhile Nobunaga lived from 1534 til 1582

so there is some overlap in real history.

not sure which year we have right now in Shizuko's alternate history, but yeah. possible.
and the author has gone off the deep end with some other developments (like the recent thermite bombs) already which makes it even more possible.

T'was a joke, we're currently in 1573, so Galileo is still a kid. Unless the author made him be born earlier.

 

[alacaelum]

It's funny because heliocentrism wasn't even a charge for the stakes, much less excommunication. Galileo's case was more because he was a complete asshole, directly dissing power figures and abusing his friends' authority within the church. Of course, nowadays schools don't really teach the full story

Seriously? I didn't know that.

Yeah... that would put you on the stake.

 

[maddery]

The raws from the official site and Pixiv are of low quality?

 

[CivilSky]

burning at the stake because your dad had a mistress is wild

 

[luna367]

Mitsuhide is being sus... hopefully he doesnt rebel this time...

 

[Tamed]

Mitsuhide, my man, what does Shizuko have to do so that you won't call her insane? She made powerful guns, a thermite bomb, tough af armor and stabilized your nation's health and wellbeing. What does it take for you to believe what she says could be achieved? She's currently the pin that keeps everything together despite her efforts to spread her knowledge.

 

[angelusalvus]

This is the last chapter of available volume out right now, you guys pick should i continue working on this with a lower quality raw or wait until tankobon release for a high quality image coming out about 6 month from now
For you information this Vol 18 come out in August 8 2025 the last Vol 17 come out in February 12 2025 it continue for the past Vol too February then August

thanks a ton for your work. I don't mind a lower quality image myself

 

[angelusalvus]

It's funny because heliocentrism wasn't even a charge for the stakes, much less excommunication. Galileo's case was more because he was a complete asshole, directly dissing power figures and abusing his friends' authority within the church. Of course, nowadays schools don't really teach the full story

Pretty much this. What ruined Galileo was that in one of his books about Heliocentrism he directly made fun of the Pope. Many people before Galileo, like Copernicus, also advocated for heliocentrism and wasn't punished for it. Galileo thought he could troll people in power and said people in power couldn't take a joke.

 

[KuraiTora]

burning at the stake because your dad had a mistress is wild

Maybe deadbeat dad was someone important and wanted to erase the living evidence.

 

[PhiLe]

Pretty much this. What ruined Galileo was that in one of his books about Heliocentrism he directly made fun of the Pope. Many people before Galileo, like Copernicus, also advocated for heliocentrism and wasn't punished for it. Galileo thought he could troll people in power and said people in power couldn't take a joke.

Powerful people being amongst the most thinskinned, some things never change

 

[Paradox_ult]

are we still to early for yasuke? i cant remember the time line-

 

[Ironclad]

After Takeda is Uesugi.

 

[trainki]

This is the last chapter of available volume out right now, you guys pick should i continue working on this with a lower quality raw or wait until tankobon release for a high quality image coming out about 6 month from now
For you information this Vol 18 come out in August 8 2025 the last Vol 17 come out in February 12 2025 it continue for the past Vol too February then August

Thank you for the Translations.

Personally, I can wait for the Tankobon released, I waited month for chapters after the other team dropped this manga, I can wait 6 more month for the next batch of chapters ^^

 

[Chizan]

Oh yes, church, the habitual evil through history..

 

[KuraiTora]

are we still to early for yasuke? i cant remember the time line-

6 years until he comes into the area, we're in 1573 and records say he arrived in Japan around 1579.

 

[Paradox_ult]

6 years until he comes into the area, we're in 1573 and records say he arrived in Japan around 1579.

ah damn, then im betting their not gonna add him which sucks because i feel like he is a really cool part of odas lore- the fact that he could buy a slave on a whim and have it turn out to be a True Fucking Warrior

 

[InsaneAwesomeTony]

Lower quality raws is fine 👍🏼 keep translating you gigachad translator!
Thanks for the chapter 🙏🏼

 

[Northern]

Nobody was ever killed, let alone burnt at the stake for heliocentrism. Even Galileo just ended up with house arrest (later extended to the whole city). The Catholics had enough problems with the Protestants using it as PR to show their scientifically regressive nature, to want to give them even more ammunition.

In fact it was only 61 years after Oda that Sir Isaac Newton was born and became a key figure in the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment that followed. His book Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica achieved the first great unification in physics and established classical mechanics and proved the mechanics of heliocentrism.

But boy howdy did they ever burn Protestants like the girl for heresy.

They wouldn't have enslaved them though. Europe at the time didn't really have chattel slavery to any great extent (penal and debt slavery existed though). Unless that merchant picked them up from North Africa or the Middle East, there wouldn't be European slaves.

 

[Panino]

It's funny because heliocentrism wasn't even a charge for the stakes, much less excommunication. Galileo's case was more because he was a complete asshole, directly dissing power figures and abusing his friends' authority within the church. Of course, nowadays schools don't really teach the full story

Yes, I was surprised, I think it was in the podcast "Our Fake Story" that I first heard this.
Yes, at times there was church persecution, but the whole "Church bad, Church against science" was a myth created in modern times.

Seriously? I didn't know that.

Yeah... that would put you on the stake.

Worse, he was an asshole with this friends, including some that where trying to protect him even.
One of them was... the Pope.


And yes, where is Yasuke?
He must be in Japan, will the story just assume that because the events are playing a bit differently he wasn't noticed?

 

[DeadToReal]

Powerful people being amongst the most thinskinned, some things never change

While this is most certainly true, keep in mind that, at the time, the pope was basically considered almost like a prophet.

While the pope couldn't add or change anything the previous prophets and saints wrote, the pope was considered the representative of God on Earth. Insulting the pope would almost be like insulting Muhammad.