Sensei's Pious Lie - Vol. 7 Ch. 39 - Escape

[boag]

Dont mind Yautja, hes just part Kronix's bitch boi brigade.

 

[burnttoast54]

Yautja feeling called out by the mangaka lmao, no wonder he's always angry every chapter

 

[nanze]

@BCS
@Pen3
Nah, take out the swearwords and Yautja's main point is that the manga is badly written, heavily stereotypes both genders, and then hits you with a predictable backstory to try cynically get sympathy. These are valid enough criticisms, not 'emotional and therefore baseless'.
I can't speak for him but I have no problem with complex villains that have backstories that explain their path. I read plenty of media, manga or otherwise, with these villains. Outside of the most shallow of plots, all villains should have some dimension to them. The criticism is that in this manga with this antagonist, the abuse backstory was predictable and added no actual value to the plot. From the start, this manga has tried to be a mature take of serious themes. The tragic backstory of the villain was a given from the start.

 

[Rabee-3]

so it's okay that he's a rapist because his mom was a victim of domestic violence ? Is that really what the author's trying to convey ? this is probably going down the redemption path. fuck it.

 

[Yautja]

@Pen3

It's like he was in an abusive relationship, but still keeps coming back... sounds a bit like some of these female characters. Maybe he actually relates?

Or maybe I finish manga I start regardless of whether or not I like them? Your psychoanalyzing is as bad as your comments are unoriginal.

@BCS

The reason why he(and probably you and a lot of other people) are so mad is because they're experiencing cognitive dissonance
...
This has nothing to do with "predictable plot"

Really? You're going to pretend this was good writing? That it wasn't a ridiculously predictable, low effort backstory with little to no impact that was literally summarized in 5 pages. You're going to pretend that this guy is a well done character and not a boring amalgamation of the "rapist" villain types of characters? This is the hill you're going to die on? This is what you're going to base your argument on?

emotional and therefore baseless

Basic fallacy. If you actually had the ability or ground to defend this shit show of manga maybe your comment wouldn't read like some pathetic political hit job that relies on fallacies, conjecture and uneducated guesses.

@boag
https://mangadex.org/chapter/445660/comments And that's who you are, and that's never going to change. Any insult you could hurl at me pales in comparison to the brush you painted yourself with on that chapter. If only you could grow up you might end up being worth a damn.

@nanze
Lo and behold, someone who can actually read and think. It's seems the two are usually mutually exclusive on this website. I appreciate and am impressed with how accurately you caught all that. You've said pretty much every thought I had. The only things I'd add, to spite this manga further, is that the "plot" of this manga is undeserving of the word and add the words "and fails" after tries. All that said, your words are wasted on them. What they seem to believe they have gleaned from my original comment and their responses are testament to that.

 

[Doomroar]

I bet she never pressed charges against her husband for domestic violence, despite being hospitalised multiple times for it.

 

[boag]

@Yautja

shows up to defend the honor of his master.

@Doomroar
What did you expect from this garbage?
I told you a while back that the characters are not acting like sane people and its just the hack writers way of forcing drama.

 

[Doomroar]

@boag yes, but my problem is with the author, she put that nurse in there for a reason, to deliver a message... and all she said was that women are weak and their only strength is being able to take a beating without complaining, which is nonsense on a new level:

Lets assume that women are weak, but then even if that were true that doesn't means they should be abused, that's like saying that kicking babies is natural because they can't defend themselves and that the strong babies are the ones that will stop crying if you kick them enough.

 

[Pen3]

@Rabee-3 no, author isn't trying to say it is ok or redeeming the rapist. Does having the background or history of Hitler childhood mean he is redeemed?

@nanze i dont recall anyone saying the writing is spectacular or anything, most of the argument is about giving a character backstory. Whether the backstory is good or bad writing doesn't mean it is by any means trying to redeem him and trying to make us like him. I don't think anyone in the comment even thinks he is a good person.

 

[boag]

@Doomroar
My problem is also with the author, hes having the characters mouthpiece his BS phylosophy. Im just glad were finally agreeing that this is garbage with characters that act beyond the suspension of disbelief. Hell not even crappy Telenovelas are this hamfisted.

 

[Yautja]

@boag
Oh how the irony is lost on you. Like I said, never going to change. You're always going to be that person. How petty and childish a person you must be to show such vitriol to a person who simply told you to stop being a dick, soliciting harassment and name calling if you wanted people to agree with you. Me telling you to grow up is probably the most genuine concern you'll ever get out of another person. Thank you for proving my point.

 

[cixous]

i want that man dead

 

[boag]

@Yautja
The irony is that entire thread I tried to reason with you, but you kept on going "but kronix sama"

 

[Yautja]

@boag

Not only is kronix a troll, hes a bitch pussy that cant even take it when you troll him, the little faggot goes into a whiny bitch rant if you put the same pressure on him, if you just spam a bit of yaoi porn to him, hell block you and make your world a whole lot better.

Dude, grow up. If you want people to agree with you, don't call people "pussy bitches", "little faggots" and tell them to harass people with gay porn. You're being just as bad, except you're advocating harassment.

go suck Kronix's dick.

Guess Kornix isn't the only troll here. Good luck convincing people of anything with that demeanor.

Listen fuckface, I tried being civil kronix, I tried discourse, I tried talking, all i got from him is that he is a troll, that he is ok with rape and pedophilia, if thats the hill you want to die on, go right ahead, it says a lot more about you than me.

Really? Reason? That's the hill you're going to die on? Never going to change.

 

[boag]

@Yautja

Kronix sama will praise me this time for sure

keep masturbating to the idea.

 

[Yautja]

@boag
Enjoy your little world, you're the only one in it.

 

[boag]

@Yautja
keep going at it douchebag

 

[Sokers]

хм

 

[Zephyrus]

@boag
Multiple comments here break 5.1, Be Civil. As I've stated elsewhere, I'm going to be lenient on older comments since there wasn't much of a moderator presence until recently, but I recommend that you consider how to argue more constructively than with personal attacks.

I also suggest that you take a look at our rules here: https://mangadex.org/rules

Thanks,

Zeph

 

[boag]

@Zephyrus
youre warning me but not him?
What gives?