Sensitive Boy - Ch. 81 - Mahiro and Hina

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thx for the tl

Sad to see :meguuusad:

but I never understand that argument, the "you didn't see me as a friend?" to someone who has feelings for you that is the same sex. Friendship and romantic feelings aren't opposite sides of relational boundaries, they are the same side with different boundaries. Im generalizing here, I get that its prolly cus of the unexpectedness of the situation and processing the feelings of the person confessing, but i don't get why people say that. Why would someone confessing to you think they wouldn't want to be friends with you. You couldn't love someone if you didn't do the stuff that is considered friendship with them. It just feels like a parasocial relationship if you are in love with someone, but didn't want to spend time with them. I also don't get that line cus what does that say about you. When people say that, I always wonder, do you not want to be friends with the people you have romantic feelings for? It doesn't make sense to me. But tbf it was clear that she was spiraling from past trauma of fake ass friends, so I sympathize with her for pulling back thinking like she was lied to.

I'm not saying shes homophobic, its clear that she wasn't expecting this at all as well as she just was non consenually kissed, so its not fair to say she's that, she's clearly not, using this moment as an example, but I never get why people use that type of line when they get confessed by someone they never thought was homosexual
 
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I was confused at first why she was upset until I remember that this happens to girls + women when someone has a crush on them so they be "friends." I'm talking about 'nice guys' but this case 'nice girls'.

To a certain extent, I do understand why Hina feels this way. She misunderstood about Mahiro because she does see her as a friend. Mahiro fell in love with her friend. Not already being in love, doing the fake friend with other intentions, and getting angry when rejection happens.

At least Hina isn’t homophobic....! :haa:
 
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I went back to see if we got any other clues about their friendship, but ultimately you just have to put yourself in Hina's shoes and reconcile with what her best friend just told her:

"I don't just like you as a friend. I have feelings for you. I always have."

This is the problem. You can argue that friendship and romance are two sides of the same coin (I don't agree), but in Hina's eyes right now, Mahiro hasn't been honest with Hina until this point, and their entire friendship has been based on lies. Hina's past experiences with being rejected and unable to make friends certainly make it much worse, but ultimately, by her own admission, Mahiro has always had ulterior motives for being close with Hina.

Hopefully they can reconcile here, and I'm trying not to be too hard on Mahiro, but she is the one throwing away their friendship because she can't handle the idea of Hina belonging to someone else.
 
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Also, quick note on the TL Note at the end:

Why is using your first name in Japanese seen as childish?

In Japanese, people hardly ever use the pronoun "you" in conversation, always using someone's name, instead, when talking to another person.

When kids are growing up, their parents address them by their names when asking them something, and they respond using the same, because that's how Japanese grammar works, and it becomes habit.

So in English when your mom asked you "Do you want something to eat?", you responded "I wanna eat!"

In Japanese (and I'm skipping over explaining some points of grammar here), the mother would ask "Hina will eat?" in a questioning tone, and Hina would respond with "Hina will eat!"

JP: Mother: "陽菜食べる?"
Hina: "陽菜食べる!"

This causes children to refer to themselves by their first names in the way that we would use "I" or "me", and you'll often hear girls especially continue to refer to themselves by their own name well into elementary school. The idea then becomes that girls that continue to do so into Middle and even High school are incredibly immature, since most girls stopped doing that when they were much younger.

The more you know~
 
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Thank you for the TL. Mahiro had a really big impact on her. Without Mahiro, Hina would have tried to fit in with the rest of her class and would have stopped talking the way she does, doing her hair the ways she does, probably the same for make up and clothes.

And now she thinks it was always a lie. That "I always have" missed fired really badly for Mahiro and she didn't do anything to correct it. She didn't grow closer to Hina because she loved her. She accepted her for who she was and Hina was really happy about it, so she spent more and more time with Mahiro. Eventually Mahiro developed feeling for her.

But it's not like Mahiro can be like, "I love you, but I'll still be your bestie. Don't worry." I mean, she could, but that would hurt her a lot. So, unless Hina turns out to be bi and breaks up with her current boyfriend to be with Mahiro, I don't see it working out in the short term. If they separate and Mahiro falls out of loves with Hina and then they meet again, they could be friends. But that takes time. I don't see a happy ending for Mahiro. I'm getting flashbacks of Ecchan from Kuzu no Honkai :aquadrink:
 
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I'm gonna keep it brief: Hina is stupid asf for thinking that Mahiro was never her friend just because she had feelings for her.
I disagree, although Hina isn't thinking things through owing how this is literal seconds after an unexpected confession.

Hina trusted her friend with her secrets, but Mahiro lied from the very beginning. Even if she had understandable motivations, she destroyed any trust between them by omitting such important information.

Mahiro and other people who disguise their romantic intentions with friendship need to either confess or leave the relationship, because it's not fair to either person. Friendship is not a consolation prize.
 
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i get hina even without the background story. it sucks to have a friend that likes you romantically and keeps you in the dark about it, everything feels insincere in retrospect, and when shit hits the fan, the unaware friend gets blamed for "leading them on" and not wanting to date such a "caring person". it's worse if the friendship started with the mindset of romantic pursue, i don't think it was the case with mahiro, it seems she developed the romantic feelings later, but fuck her, this creep kissed a sleeping person
 

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