Shachou to Sake to Hoshi - Vol. 1 Ch. 7 - Boss and The Lie

[hazzack]

Those are some pretty massive cans of beer

i were thinking along the line "we're so used to those slim cans now we think those normal cans are big" but no, those ARE some pretty massive cans of beer.

 

[SoyYoJoder]

What the kfuc is up when japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

Japan has a really conservative culture and really focused on appearances and etiquette.

So they have to prim and proper 24/7 in the eyes of society. Thats why when they get a moment to express themselves they go WILD.

 

[Lyncoris]

What the kfuc is up when japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

I mean if you talk to your colleague about the future of the company, but then you talk about the lewd dream you had this morning. wont you be embarrassed and worry about your image? and remember this is not your friend yet or at least not that close

 

[jojoka]

What the kfuc is up with japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

Well I mean at the context of being at work and hearing that story from your boss you aren't friends with I would be a bit weirded out by hearing that too.

 

[Tahuantinsuyo]

Just wanted to say that bro has immaculate seating posture.

 

[Saizken]

Not coming in late because you don't get rewarded is hilarious.

 

[Joyconboyz]

God I need more of Kurokawa 😩

 

[CrimsonSix]

What the kfuc is up with japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

It still isn't normal to talk about lewd dreams with your coworkers when they're asking about a different kind of dream.

 

[Takuma_Aki]

Tough Boss, Girly Junior, and Gloomy Otaku, you say? That sound like a nice combo that will produce a good slice of life manga...

Spin off when?

Anyway, I think Reina just failed successfully? This 'fumble' should actually improve her image.

 

[Kaito57]

LEWD

 

[Shygig]

No, Mylene Scans (the one sniping over at ComicK) will only upload their version there. I will still upload it here, because at the end of the day, at least we don't beg for donations.

goat mentality

 

[Weoooo]

What the kfuc is up with japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

Let's... okay. Let's Break This Down For You

1: She's the company president.
2: She was invited out to lunch.
3: Her co-workers, who are her subordinates, ask her about her dreams.
3a: Since she is the company president, they're asking what her aspirations are for the company.
3b: Since she's being swept up in the idea of becoming friends with them, she assumes they're talking about literal dreams.
4: She then gives details of a dream she had that morning. It's a SPICY dream. She does this as a show of trust and vulnerability.

SO. What's the embarrassment here? Is it that she talked about "the sex?" No. It's not. It's that her subordinates asked her out to lunch, and when the topic turned to her aspirations(aka, dreams) she told them a LITERAL dream that she had that also included intimate details. She embarrassed herself by misreading the question.

Ishizumi has developed into a fascinating male lead. He's ready to take the offramp, and I wondered why; until I checked the summary to remember what his actual name was. He's 13 years older than her. His reluctance and guilt makes a lot of sense now. It's not just that he's lying to her, the very idea of her loving him fills him with guilt. He's really not doing much to disguise himself, and his feelings are his own. His lie is just his name and that he doesn't admit that she's his boss. That's big, but he's not pretending to feel and think the things he's saying, nor is he presenting himself as anything other than a mysterious nobody.

This page is full of surprising emotional depth. He's smiling because he realizes that he likes this. This isn't a burden, this isn't a problem... he loves it. Why, though? Because he's proud that she trusts him. He's been watching her carry the weight of her father's company at a young age, seen the stress its put on her, but has always seen her as kind, but awkward because of it. Even with this being a fanservicey manga where every female is pretty and has huge bozangas, the FOCUS is on her flustered, desperate face; her emotional vulnerability. She hands him her fragile, unsteady heart; something she's never handed anyone else, and trusts him to treat it as precious. He does, because he deeply believes it is. It's too precious for him to ever hold, but he will keep it until she finds someone who can.

His commitment to keeping up the act is because it's working and that he can see a way that she can find someone she "truly loves." He imagines a wedding, with someone who cannot be him, and there isn't even a hint of melancholy in his face. It transitions to comedy. He MEANS THIS. He finds the very idea that she could actually love him impossible, when he hasn't lied about anything other than not knowing her. The things that made her trust him are the things he said from the bottom of his heart; how he sees how hard she's trying, how much he respects that, and how he will always be on her side because of it.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

 

[NotSomeone]

Yeah I find Manager Kurokawa hotter than the boss, fight me

 

[ScrapTag]

Let's... okay. Let's Break This Down For You

1: She's the company president.
2: She was invited out to lunch.
3: Her co-workers, who are her subordinates, ask her about her dreams.
3a: Since she is the company president, they're asking what her aspirations are for the company.
3b: Since she's being swept up in the idea of becoming friends with them, she assumes they're talking about literal dreams.
4: She then gives details of a dream she had that morning. It's a SPICY dream. She does this as a show of trust and vulnerability.

SO. What's the embarrassment here? Is it that she talked about "the sex?" No. It's not. It's that her subordinates asked her out to lunch, and when the topic turned to her aspirations(aka, dreams) she told them a LITERAL dream that she had that also included intimate details. She embarrassed herself by misreading the question.

Ishizumi has developed into a fascinating male lead. He's ready to take the offramp, and I wondered why; until I checked the summary to remember what his actual name was. He's 13 years older than her. His reluctance and guilt makes a lot of sense now. It's not just that he's lying to her, the very idea of her loving him fills him with guilt. He's really not doing much to disguise himself, and his feelings are his own. His lie is just his name and that he doesn't admit that she's his boss. That's big, but he's not pretending to feel and think the things he's saying, nor is he presenting himself as anything other than a mysterious nobody.

This page is full of surprising emotional depth. He's smiling because he realizes that he likes this. This isn't a burden, this isn't a problem... he loves it. Why, though? Because he's proud that she trusts him. He's been watching her carry the weight of her father's company at a young age, seen the stress its put on her, but has always seen her as kind, but awkward because of it. Even with this being a fanservicey manga where every female is pretty and has huge bozangas, the FOCUS is on her flustered, desperate face; her emotional vulnerability. She hands him her fragile, unsteady heart; something she's never handed anyone else, and trusts him to treat it as precious. He does, because he deeply believes it is. It's too precious for him to ever hold, but he will keep it until she finds someone who can.

His commitment to keeping up the act is because it's working and that he can see a way that she can find someone she "truly loves." He imagines a wedding, with someone who cannot be him, and there isn't even a hint of melancholy in his face. It transitions to comedy. He MEANS THIS. He finds the very idea that she could actually love him impossible, when he hasn't lied about anything other than not knowing her. The things that made her trust him are the things he said from the bottom of his heart; how he sees how hard she's trying, how much he respects that, and how he will always be on her side because of it.

It's quite rare to see people actually do a proper analysis on a silly RomCom manga. Hats off to you

 

[Genzerum]

Who would have thought, that Mylene Scans has sniped a series... Oh wait, that's what they've been doing from forever. Fuck them, fuck Mylene Scans.

 

[blablablub]

Why aren't you doing the mushy stuff with her, Izumi?!

 

[wutman]

ahh yes, this is some esquisite shit

 

[outinthegardener]

What the kfuc is up with japan being grossed out ("too perverted!") about the natural desire to do the baby making fun?

Nobody else does this and its often celebrated as a healthy part of life.

Interesting, isn't it? Baudrillard talks about the same thing regarding American culture and hyperreality. Hyperreality is the exaggerated representation of the world we see in TV, Art, or Advertising. All the food is amazing, the women are all beautiful, people have fulfilling jobs and big houses in the suburbs. It creates an idealized image of the world that is more attractive than the comparatively dismal experiences in real life, as a means to opiate people and keep them buying into the promises of capitalism. It provides an ideal goal to focus your labor towards.

There are multiple expressions of Hyperreality, which Baudrillard cites as Disneyland and Las Vegas. At Disneyland we are given a fantasy of childhood, princes and princesses, heroes who save the day, thrilling rides. It is a world where a heroic individual can do great deeds and get the girl in the end. In Vegas, we are given flash and sin and hedonism. You can gamble, see a topless dance show, visit a prostitute.

Of these contrary ideals, purity and hedonism, we are presented with multiple modes of personal fulfillment under Capitalism. Your role is to be both hard working and serious, and also devilish and playful. And since we can't express both modes simultaneously without contradiction, we create liminal spaces where and when it is appropriate to perform separate roles. Reina's mistake was to express her lust at a work lunch, instead of at a late-night drinking party. People in hyperreal cultures must perform incredible mental gymnastics to switch modes as the context demands.

Those are some pretty massive cans of beer

Huuuuuuuuuge tracts of land

That kid with the pain fetish would be dying of jealousy if he saw that final park

Honestly loving the repeat joke that she's an Ojou-Sama and her wealthy family made her learn Jiu-Jutsu (But not emotional intelligence). She's like a baby with a handgun.

 

[DioBrandoXVII]

Kurokawa is fine as hell