Shikkoku Tsukai no Saikyou Yuusha - Vol. 9 Ch. 46 - Rescue

[MangaDex]

 

[popo53414]

You sat through all that bullshit is why he had to come

 

[Lioslin]

I can't help but feel something is off about them adding in all these horrible things people were allowed to get away with without punishment now. Like it almost weakens the MCs reason for wanting to give up after being betrayed at the start if he was facing this kind of bullshit the entire time. Would've been of a "Them too?" kind of deal if it was always like this, but that doesn't feel like what happened.

 

[Qelix]

Why should a truly evil person kill a hostage, if they have them under control? You never know when you might need them as a bargaining chip again. E.g. Let them making an appearance, let them give a sign of life, exchange them, torture them infrom of their beloved ones, etc. There are a lot of potentially useful things to do to them. That guy helped to kidnap that man and held him hostage for blackmailing. That's evil enough. I don't understand her reasoning.

 

[kavinh]

I can't help but feel something is off about them adding in all these horrible things people were allowed to get away with without punishment now. Like it almost weakens the MCs reason for wanting to give up after being betrayed at the start if he was facing this kind of bullshit the entire time. Would've been of a "Them too?" kind of deal if it was always like this, but that doesn't feel like what happened.

the writting is kinda generic, with the usual I can't let you get away with evil even if it your way is more efficient can saves the world in the end. It just seems like poor writing for me, he's seen countless injustices get through and is still preaching about how he wants to save a world that lets it happen day by day when people with the power to bring it about are too scared about the consequences to do anything. Just makes it seem a bit pathetic imo, i get its just bare bones writing but kinda makes him saving anything feel pointless in the end.

 

[sherlock0790]

So
on that world,
living is an hell huh?
corruption, unfairness is so rampant..

no wonder MC n Haku falling in despair

 

[Dwarfy2k]

I can't help but feel something is off about them adding in all these horrible things people were allowed to get away with without punishment now. Like it almost weakens the MCs reason for wanting to give up after being betrayed at the start if he was facing this kind of bullshit the entire time. Would've been of a "Them too?" kind of deal if it was always like this, but that doesn't feel like what happened.

My problem is the MC let them go, like sure the nobel did some good but what happens when he has to get more medicine or something else for his family. He'll do more bad.

Its retarded writing as noone in that city would let the nobel live.

Also the village chief, son and other killer should have been struck down by MC. Rediculous that they got off scot free cause "their word was law"

 

[ankiwi]

My problem is the MC let them go, like sure the nobel did some good but what happens when he has to get more medicine or something else for his family. He'll do more bad.

Its retarded writing as noone in that city would let the nobel live.

Also the village chief, son and other killer should have been struck down by MC. Rediculous that they got off scot free cause "their word was law"

Yeah makes no sense. Basically if you do enough good you're allowed to do crime. He should have let the village decide the chief's fate, the city the nobles and so on. Let the people hear their crimes and if they think it's fine to allow them to do such acts then let them live as they are a lost cause and can't cry to him when it comes back to bite them.

 

[Oeconomist]

Rediculous that they got off scot free cause "their word was law"

Indeed, whether law is good or evil, it operationalizes as law exactly and only because of the power of those who enforce it. Anyone more powerful can replace one set of laws with another.

In any case, this story utterly lacks cleverness of any sort.

 

[Dwarfy2k]

Indeed, whether law is good or evil, it operationalizes as law exactly and only because of the power of those who enforce it. Anyone more powerful can replace one set of laws with another.

In any case, this story utterly lacks cleverness of any sort.

Like what is even the purpose of the MC if he "can't" do things cause "People in charge can do what they want or did a good deed at some point" it just makes me dislike the MC cause he let bad things continue.

 

[MarcoCrtes]

the writting is kinda generic, with the usual I can't let you get away with evil even if it your way is more efficient can saves the world in the end. It just seems like poor writing for me, he's seen countless injustices get through and is still preaching about how he wants to save a world that lets it happen day by day when people with the power to bring it about are too scared about the consequences to do anything. Just makes it seem a bit pathetic imo, i get its just bare bones writing but kinda makes him saving anything feel pointless in the end.

This is what I mentioned in my comment on the previous chapter.
Our society has come to hate itself, almost every ideology nowadays in fundamentally misanthropic.
Thanos was one of the most recent characters that embody this madness, and there are people that kinda agree with him. Efficient.

On another note, I don't agree with the way Shion probably handled things, but I understand his stance as a character. Remember that a character is an attempt to create a "person". The better it is written, the more we "like" it. As such, it's not exactly poor writing, at least in this specific case. He just embodies a quite common way of thinking. For example, I've heard and read many, many people that justify a president or political party because the previous ones in charge "stole more". People who receive food aid from criminal organizations and even cover for them because of those "aids".
In the little fragment, Shion is thinking in the same way millions of people do.
And in addition to this, a main character does have to be likable, relatable or interesting, so that readers follow the story, but not perfect. It's quite common to see protagonist have a flawed view on something, so, at least in my case, I don't particularly feel anything to this stance of his (aside from disagreeing with it) nor does it make dislike him as a character.

 

[Kaarme]

On another note, I don't agree with the way Shion probably handled things, but I understand his stance as a character. Remember that a character is an attempt to create a "person". The better it is written, the more we "like" it. As such, it's not exactly poor writing, at least in this specific case.

It's an interesting question. Personally, I think it's poor writing. Perhaps it's partially due to the need to keep it extremely short, but as it was, it does result in some consequences. At the very least, it makes Shion impartial, even if it means he sides with the evil. It's the kind of attitude that can observe evil men triumph as long as it has got nothing to do with him. Doesn't that clash a whole lot with what has been going on for most of the series? So, Shion before he was betrayed was a totally different person compared to Shion now. I suppose that's not impossible at all, but the story hasn't really made a point out of it. Sure, he can pretend he was so angry about all that, but even concentration camp employees could pretend they were so angry about what was going on, but still chose to go along with it.

I said in the comments of the previous chapter that the writing is too naive, and that's a stand I maintain.

 

[Kamelpov]

I expect the writing is done that way in order to be able to end quickly the story at the first hint of axe.

 

[pip25]

"Please, be careful, my curse may activate at any moment!"
"Don't worry, if that happens I'll do something about it!"
"Thank you! Then let's split up! I'll save the hostage alone! Surely my curse will not activate during the rescue, and no other bad things could possibly happen either!"

This feels like an idiot plot now, geez...

 

[kavinh]

This is what I mentioned in my comment on the previous chapter.
Our society has come to hate itself, almost every ideology nowadays in fundamentally misanthropic.
Thanos was one of the most recent characters that embody this madness, and there are people that kinda agree with him. Efficient.

On another note, I don't agree with the way Shion probably handled things, but I understand his stance as a character. Remember that a character is an attempt to create a "person". The better it is written, the more we "like" it. As such, it's not exactly poor writing, at least in this specific case. He just embodies a quite common way of thinking. For example, I've heard and read many, many people that justify a president or political party because the previous ones in charge "stole more". People who receive food aid from criminal organizations and even cover for them because of those "aids".
In the little fragment, Shion is thinking in the same way millions of people do.
And in addition to this, a main character does have to be likable, relatable or interesting, so that readers follow the story, but not perfect. It's quite common to see protagonist have a flawed view on something, so, at least in my case, I don't particularly feel anything to this stance of his (aside from disagreeing with it) nor does it make dislike him as a character.

that's why its a badly written story imo, he's written to be lawful good at all times and ignores all the suffering he or anyone else goes through with its just that way. I'm not saying it's impossible to write a good character that way but like at some point people just feel detached, and that he's just a simple minded boring gary stu character who exists for the author to have a plot. He's been betrayed, left to die, watched innocent civilians get murdered with their culprits getting away with it scot free because of their positions and is still going on about how he'll never side with evil.
I get what you mean it's that saying the devil you know is better then devil you don't, but the author in this case is just intentionally shoving examples of how the current world is cruel, to try to drive how evil the system is without anything compelling from the MC's side on why it's wrong to stop people who are against it. He's not even necessarily wrong but there's no reason for us to agree or care about it when the author's trying to drive in the opposite that the world is twisted and cruel, so the baddies have a point.

 

[Coldlight]

I may have been putting too much stock on the writing. Whatever happened to Aria stating she'll keep an eye on Emily? They split up so easily, even with the possible danger that Emily goes berserk again. Let alone the possibility Emily could betray them? Aria was not there in the confession box when Emily was confessing to the priest so there's no way she'd suddenly trust Emily enough to leave her alone just because the suspicious group split up.