Shimotsuki-san wa Mobu ga Suki ~Hitomishiri na Kanojo wa Ore ni Dake Dere Amai~
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WN is edgier, with more time telling about how the MC is being negative about his whole life, and the girls changed because they're made to fall in love by the plot.
LN focus more on how Kotaro has already grew past it and trying to build a relationship with Shiho despite what happened at the side still gets them involved.
Manga is probably doing service to the author by focusing a lot more on cute Shiho being cute.
LN focus more on how Kotaro has already grew past it and trying to build a relationship with Shiho despite what happened at the side still gets them involved.
Manga is probably doing service to the author by focusing a lot more on cute Shiho being cute.
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massive flaw is the repetition. we get it you think your a mob stop ranting about it everytime your the focus of a panel, it happenes at least once a chapter somtimes 2-3 times in a chapter tell us about your history with the girls or your normal friends or somthing. giving us a math lecture would be more entertaining at this point
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I had given it a 8/10 before but now my I am giving it a 6/10 after chapter6 cuz I think the author is trying to do the "I always loved my onii-chan but i never realized be my feelings troupe".... Man if I am right I'll drop the rating to 4/10
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Hi, I would love to know where you found the WN and LN. When you have a second, I’d love to know. Thanks!
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The WN is in Narou, it also got fan translation going. The chapters are short, so they're doing almost a chapter a day regularly.
The LN also got fan translation. Although in my case I'm getting the books. Author and editor confirmed it will get volume 5.
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Okay guys, I've been reading the web novel so far and honestly, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it!
The whole NTR part aside, it's not really NTR since none of them had been actually in love with him. He just "imagined" that could have happened. The only "real NTR" in this story was Koutarou stealing Shomotsuki from Ryuzaki. Since Ryuzaki had clearly a crush on her and felt that she was stolen, but even that might be questionable, as I think NTR is usually a bit more sinister, where a guy steals the girl who was still in love with her guy but NTR man managed to "corrupt" her somehow, be it blackmail, be it drugs, be it supernatural stuff, be it just being a good at seggs. This story just gives "NTR-like vibes" for self-inserts but fails to do this properly because we never really see Koutarou being with the three girls for a long time. It'd hurt way more if those girls had been in contact with him for longer or if he laments them leaving him but he doesn't. He just gives up and if you expect him to change, as far as the web novel goes, he's a spineless prick and I hate him.
What makes this story interesting is this meta take on harem protagonists. I think you can compare this to the isekai genre, where similar stories emerged, i.e., your childhood friend gets recruited by this guy who came from Japan and has OP powers and a harem to live the male fantasy. All the years you spend together turn into nothingness and she becomes just a useless member in the harem, never really being in love with the dense MC.
That's why Ryuzaki is and since we see it from Koutarou's POV, it does make think about the harem genre for a bit longer. Think about all the dense protags you met so far and all the girls you cheered for, your "best girls", who most likely didn't win or just remained part of the harem, or rather, usually a girl is just part of one volume, gets thrown aside as a side cast for the next girl in the next volume. It's a terrible fate come to think of it.
This stoy does this as well, none of the three girls will ever be at cover page, it's always Shimotsuki and this is just a romcom between her and Koutarou.
Shimotsuki will go through some character development, so that's something to look forward to. Ryuzaki will stop being dense and realize that he has harem powers and wonders how he will deal with them. I assume all the three girls will eventually regret parting with Koutarou but I'm not sure if that author managed to make this part satisfying. Preferably, I'd just love to see Shimotsuki take Koutarou and break those girls behind the scenes. I don't really expect anything from Koutarou. He pretends to be some second coming of Christ, wishing for one of the three girls that had left him to become Ryuzaki's lover so they can become happy. Like, seriously? Your step-sister just ditched and hung out at some guy's place, calling him brother the moment she fell for him. Your childhood friend who pretty much fulfilled all childhood friend tropes ditches you the moment she fell for him and your close friend, with whom you spent so much fun times with turns into a gal only to match her crush's tastes...
Later on, we see this in a different light, where they call out Koutarou for his passive personality, saying that it is his fault for being someone who gives up and has no emotions but honestly, if you had a friend like that, you should just stay with them and help them to understand, point it out to them gently or argue with them. Instead you ditch him like that... Ah, man, I don't even know what I'm writing at this point.
Still, I'll keep up with this series. It's a train crash and it's entertaining and I want a satisfying conclusion. I highly doubt that Shimotsuki gets NTRed by Ryuzaki, if that happens, the author would be truly f***ed.
The whole NTR part aside, it's not really NTR since none of them had been actually in love with him. He just "imagined" that could have happened. The only "real NTR" in this story was Koutarou stealing Shomotsuki from Ryuzaki. Since Ryuzaki had clearly a crush on her and felt that she was stolen, but even that might be questionable, as I think NTR is usually a bit more sinister, where a guy steals the girl who was still in love with her guy but NTR man managed to "corrupt" her somehow, be it blackmail, be it drugs, be it supernatural stuff, be it just being a good at seggs. This story just gives "NTR-like vibes" for self-inserts but fails to do this properly because we never really see Koutarou being with the three girls for a long time. It'd hurt way more if those girls had been in contact with him for longer or if he laments them leaving him but he doesn't. He just gives up and if you expect him to change, as far as the web novel goes, he's a spineless prick and I hate him.
What makes this story interesting is this meta take on harem protagonists. I think you can compare this to the isekai genre, where similar stories emerged, i.e., your childhood friend gets recruited by this guy who came from Japan and has OP powers and a harem to live the male fantasy. All the years you spend together turn into nothingness and she becomes just a useless member in the harem, never really being in love with the dense MC.
That's why Ryuzaki is and since we see it from Koutarou's POV, it does make think about the harem genre for a bit longer. Think about all the dense protags you met so far and all the girls you cheered for, your "best girls", who most likely didn't win or just remained part of the harem, or rather, usually a girl is just part of one volume, gets thrown aside as a side cast for the next girl in the next volume. It's a terrible fate come to think of it.
This stoy does this as well, none of the three girls will ever be at cover page, it's always Shimotsuki and this is just a romcom between her and Koutarou.
Shimotsuki will go through some character development, so that's something to look forward to. Ryuzaki will stop being dense and realize that he has harem powers and wonders how he will deal with them. I assume all the three girls will eventually regret parting with Koutarou but I'm not sure if that author managed to make this part satisfying. Preferably, I'd just love to see Shimotsuki take Koutarou and break those girls behind the scenes. I don't really expect anything from Koutarou. He pretends to be some second coming of Christ, wishing for one of the three girls that had left him to become Ryuzaki's lover so they can become happy. Like, seriously? Your step-sister just ditched and hung out at some guy's place, calling him brother the moment she fell for him. Your childhood friend who pretty much fulfilled all childhood friend tropes ditches you the moment she fell for him and your close friend, with whom you spent so much fun times with turns into a gal only to match her crush's tastes...
Later on, we see this in a different light, where they call out Koutarou for his passive personality, saying that it is his fault for being someone who gives up and has no emotions but honestly, if you had a friend like that, you should just stay with them and help them to understand, point it out to them gently or argue with them. Instead you ditch him like that... Ah, man, I don't even know what I'm writing at this point.
Still, I'll keep up with this series. It's a train crash and it's entertaining and I want a satisfying conclusion. I highly doubt that Shimotsuki gets NTRed by Ryuzaki, if that happens, the author would be truly f***ed.
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Bruh the author didn't been trying at all and plus it screams NTR even tho the author does a crap job of dodging MC lame trash and each FMC is dumber than a box of rocks and plus the antagonist is nothing but a player and the girls are around that antagonist are sluts. Watch the author gonna have them girls chase the MC. Do not bother with this crap of a manga it's not even worth the time.
People call it NTR.....It's not, not even vibes of NTR. This spineless POS simply imagined that he could be a harem king.
Girls at some point i presume liked him and even wanted him to take a step towards them but he played "friends" with them during his middle school years basically what "NTR" guys does but he is more handsome and more positive than POS MC.
In any case do you call it NTR when some POS "thinks" that girls are his when they were nothing more than friends? They moved on, they weren't interested in friendship and honestly even in real world do you often see girls befriending boys?
In my observation in order for man and women to be friends one of the party has to have feelings for the other then "friendship" lasts when both have zero feelings their "friendship" becomes something more akin to frequent acquaintances. It's very (like really rare) when maleXfemale friendship lasts or blossoms without any attraction.
During my school years and young adult years we invited girl to the party not because we found them interesting, but because someone might "score", so that party wouldn't be called "sausage party" or to have more people. Now that I'm older I'm content going out with just my friends and sometimes with their girlfriends but honestly there's not much interacting with them. They don't understand a lot of things due to gender gap (which is massive, struggles and jokes that men understand from age 0 are geometrically different to women same with men we don't understand or not willing to). Women develop for the most part different hobbies and even if they develop the same hobby POINTS OF INTEREST in that hobby most of the time are different.
Sorry for the rant, needed to establish why POS is POS and why this isn't NTR. All my friends (women) disappeared from my life as soon as I or they established that we will be nothing more than friends(Same with everyone i know, only "playboys" among my circle retained a lot of "girl friends".
Any fool who believes that his partners opposite gender friend is just a friend is playing with a dynamite that has been lit. When gender specific attributes start to appear (aged 6-7) that is when we grow apart and friendship with opposites become something akin to fairytale or unicorn (there are cases but they are few). Also if ever a woman tells you he is just a friend, sit and have serious talk with her and tell a male perspective how some are aggressive pursuers whilst others are crouching tigers waiting for the right moment to catch their prey. (Moments where you have a fight with her, while she is drunk or any moment of weakness from her is an opportunity for her "friend" to take action)
Girls at some point i presume liked him and even wanted him to take a step towards them but he played "friends" with them during his middle school years basically what "NTR" guys does but he is more handsome and more positive than POS MC.
In any case do you call it NTR when some POS "thinks" that girls are his when they were nothing more than friends? They moved on, they weren't interested in friendship and honestly even in real world do you often see girls befriending boys?
In my observation in order for man and women to be friends one of the party has to have feelings for the other then "friendship" lasts when both have zero feelings their "friendship" becomes something more akin to frequent acquaintances. It's very (like really rare) when maleXfemale friendship lasts or blossoms without any attraction.
During my school years and young adult years we invited girl to the party not because we found them interesting, but because someone might "score", so that party wouldn't be called "sausage party" or to have more people. Now that I'm older I'm content going out with just my friends and sometimes with their girlfriends but honestly there's not much interacting with them. They don't understand a lot of things due to gender gap (which is massive, struggles and jokes that men understand from age 0 are geometrically different to women same with men we don't understand or not willing to). Women develop for the most part different hobbies and even if they develop the same hobby POINTS OF INTEREST in that hobby most of the time are different.
Sorry for the rant, needed to establish why POS is POS and why this isn't NTR. All my friends (women) disappeared from my life as soon as I or they established that we will be nothing more than friends(Same with everyone i know, only "playboys" among my circle retained a lot of "girl friends".
Any fool who believes that his partners opposite gender friend is just a friend is playing with a dynamite that has been lit. When gender specific attributes start to appear (aged 6-7) that is when we grow apart and friendship with opposites become something akin to fairytale or unicorn (there are cases but they are few). Also if ever a woman tells you he is just a friend, sit and have serious talk with her and tell a male perspective how some are aggressive pursuers whilst others are crouching tigers waiting for the right moment to catch their prey. (Moments where you have a fight with her, while she is drunk or any moment of weakness from her is an opportunity for her "friend" to take action)
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It’s like ntr without the spice 🤮 not worth a second of your attention
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Suuuuper sexist, bordering on incel. Ew
Hope this is a joke or I hope you don't live anywhere in Europe or we are getting super cucked.
If you think I'm a sexist or incel (or both) by my statements, I will wear it with pride just to spite you.
I will also add, I hate the gender thing called gender fluidity. I don't get it and I don't approve of it. I may act girly I may act manly but i don't assign labels to myself as gender X because I deviate from traditional "norm" which is just a benchmark.
For example I don't feel emotional most of my time and I almost lack the feeling of attraction though I prefer female aesthetics. I don't fucking need to be called gender rainbow unicorn XYZ to live peacefully, you don't like that I like pink color? Shove it up your ass and mind your own damn business, i don't need to color my hair ultramarine and screech to have "zen" state of mind.
General Xenophobia
I'm also a bit racist/nazist/xenophobe in western terms, since I operate based on stereotypes. When i meet you I will check for your skin color and country of origin.
For example I will be more cordial with Africans from Ghana than Afro-Americans and based on a fact that they created and glorified "thug culture" in my country we also have a "thug culture" they are comprised of the most uncultured and lowly people, the same as afro-american "thug culture" actually but it is looked down upon by most unlike in USA where it being appropriated by everyone little by little.
OHHH to put more salt, I believe that racial features exist and that not everyone is born equal. Racial features by average margin are not so distinct but they exist.
Also it's I will make a statement from a black guy from USA don't remember who exactly: You and me will be generally more friendly to each other, you may ask why? It's simple we grew up with more similar struggles than white people. Look at your hair and look at my hair, generally whites won't know the struggle of maintaining curly hair, but you and me share that sister, we already have something in common.
General Sexism
Men and women will not be equal at least in this century, we are built differently we have different struggles we occupy different fields we experience different gazes. Men will never experience birth of a child through the womb and women will never experience a kick to the balls.
Men will never experience fear (well some will but a very small minority, there are always outliers) going to bathhouse full of naked women, while women will experience fear in general being around a room full of naked unknown men (pornstars excluded, escorts actually do have anxiety so do fetishists).
I will never be 100% compatible with women(speaking about friendship). I will never have deeper friendship with a woman than a man, speaking in terms of probability, because who knows maybe my "brother" is somewhere in a different continent and the closest compatible person excluding gender specific things will be my wife.
Now going for the finals INCEL, from merriam webster:
plural-incels
: a person (usually a man) who regards himself or herself as being involuntarily celibate and typically expresses extreme resentment and hostility toward those who are sexually active
The term "incels" emerged from a Reddit group in which tens of thousands of users, most of them young men, commiserate about their lack of sexual activity—many of them placing the blame on women.—Josh O'Kane
In recent years, a number of these men have identified as so-called incels, short for involuntary celibates, an online subculture of men who express rage at women for denying them sex and who frequently fantasize about violence and celebrate mass shooters in their online discussion groups.—Julie Bosman et al.
This is incorrect term for me sadly, please describe what you meant (or thought) by calling me that.
1)I went on intentional celibacy (meaning no masturbation too).
2)I don't rage about women denying me as I also deny women and expect them to be okay with that (though some of them called me "gay" for not flirting back, how dare I, a meat stick with two balls who must hunt for every hole be it hole in a tree or apple pie, deny someone, am I right!?).
3)Resentment to sexualy active people is actually the most childish and funny thing i heard, i resent cheaters and backstabbers who happen to be sexualy active (i think).
Hopefully you will reciprocate my feelings and write a text as "big" as mine to validate and compare our "Sizes". Though I doubt you will do it since my incel magic "stunned you" and put a spell of "cringification" upon you.
Or you are a WHAMEN who denies me and I will blame you for lack of my sexual "chi" energy.
P.S. I know he or she was trolling. But I like to write so why not?
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Now that I have broken the ice, the one thing done right is having Koutaro and Ryuzaki have similar yet juxtaposed designs.
They have the same haircut/hairstyle, even going so far as to have similar ahoge. Aside from their contrasting personalities, their eyes and hair color are different; Ryuzaki's eyes are sharper and more confident, Koutaro's are more innocent or solitary, and Ryuzaki stands physically taller than Koutaro, so I'll give Kigurumi her commendation for that.
While I could have an opinion on the writing, I'm still keeping in mind that it's being translated, so what comes from characters' mouths could still be written in different interpretations but overall understandable. It's just that the characters are teens with a bad case of the "re re," if you know what I mean.
tl;dr: How do I make that list to add Azusa?
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