So do you believe that they inherently evil or it was the circumstances they were raised in? you bring up Hitler do you mean he wouldn’t be evil because he’s literally in a room where he can’t affect others, or are you saying he’d be a different person because he was locked up in a room?
So do you believe that they inherently evil or it was the circumstances they were raised in? you bring up Hitler do you mean he wouldn’t be evil because he’s literally in a room where he can’t affect others, or are you saying he’d be a different person because he was locked up in a room?
People aren't born evil exactly, it's a variety of factors that makes someone evil. Some of that starts with pure mental illness to the point where they would say torture/kill animals for fun. The rest is what is instilled into them followed by the actions they then take from everything that has been internalized as their sense of self.
Hitler is a weird case, he himself(as far as I know) didn't start with mental illness, but factors of the time + his choices + illness later in life is what led to him being evil.
The weirdness of cloning means they are someone but not. If you cloned hitler you could argue he has the ability to be evil, but evil is an act you commit and it's affected by scale/the nature of the act. If you cloned him as a baby but with no memories he would not be evil, no person starts as evil. If you clone him with memories but isolate him, he has done nothing but the likelihood of him attempting to regain power is immense based on his personality that we do know about.
If you can’t put yourself in other peoples shoes and understand that if you were raised that way and took their place, that you would be completely a different person with different morals.
This is literally why people will never stop fighting wars. Because they believe the other side is evil, and can’t imagine that if they were raised in their place with their you assume you’d have a completely different worldview.
Everyone is capable of change, good and bad, but label someone evil removes that ability to change. You’ve labelled them a demon only spread evil, which is ridiculous and childish and terrifying.
I understand putting myself in other peoples shoes, it's why I
did not say Israel is evil. I said the leader is, Netanyahu has no hope, there is NOTHING he can do or change at this point that does not make him a monster, someone who is evil. The people of Israel are swayed by the emotion of the recent attack and propaganda(many of the fake claims that were debunked by Israeli news) into a position they struggle to understand the consequences of. Mind you, that is based on numbers of polling, I assume there is many who are unpolled who strongly oppose the Gaza operations.
The reason I think Netanyahu specifically is evil, is because he is willing to continue a war against terrorists where 90% of the deaths are civilians trapped inside of a 141sq mile prison and over 90% of the population is starving. They are using(Netanyahu approved) methods even the US thought were too much during our failed operations(dropping 2000lb bombs in crowded civilian areas). He is going against the US strongly recommending to not use the methods they are using(indiscriminate bombing) due to our experience in failing using similarly ineffective methods at our own peril. To top all this off, he is waging this war in this manner because if he does not do everything the hard right want in Israel(currently governening) he will lose power and likely end up in prison due to his corruption before this attack even happened. None of this is to mention that said actions he took to avoid getting kicked out for corruption is likely the reason why the october 7th attack was able to happen in the first place. Parts of the government knew the exact planned attack was being planned along with trained for, other governments warned them directly something big was looming in the 2 weeks coming up to the attack which were ignored.
When I was younger when people used to go to jail, you’d hope they get rehabilitated and get better. But when people go to jail now, most people on social media will openly, hope that person is raped and killed for their actions instead of rehabilitating and becoming a better person. I had to stop being friends with certain people because they would gleefully hope for the death of certain people and not realize how fucked up that is.
“they deserve it”, that mindset is terrifying. Because there is no conversation there, it’s just letting out the perceived justice. It’s the equivalent of going to a public execution.
Suffering does not equal justice. It just spreads more suffering.
I 100% agree, I am against the current "punishment" based incarceration. 100% of people in prison are flawed, most did something to deserve themselves being in prison, none deserve to be tortured and exploited in the way that the overwhelming majority of US prisons are designed currently. The overwhemling majority of people in prison will be released from prison, what we are willing to put into them is what we are going to get back from as a society them when they are released. Out of the over 1.2m in prison, maybe 1000 I would actually clasify as evil.
There is a lot more I could say about it