Shindou Yuusha to Maid Onee-san

[adi13841]

You know what's stupid? It's not that he doesn't seek revenge, it's that he helps the kingdom and people who stole everything from him and even tortured him. Okay, he doesn't want to take revenge, you know what is the biggest fuck you, you can do? Travel to enemy kingdom or empire and offer your services to them.

Now the crux. If he was just let go because of his "curse" it would be somewhat moderately okay for him to cooperate with the kingdom to some extent BUT his kingdom showed that it is as immoral and evil as supposed demon king let's recount:
1) Kingdom uses an orphans as a warriors
2) Kingdom discarded their hero as soon as he became a threat and/or achieved his objective
3) They conducted vile and painful experiments on him (remember he was 9-10 years old)
4) Kingdom conducted terrible experiments on convicts and some other poor souls

Now this fucking intellectually impaired author wants to tell us that "Hero" is good? I ask you my fellow is a person serving evil with good intentions considered evil? In my opinion anyone who serves under evil umbrella despite their inner convictions is evil.

Next point, he just let go a thief, he let go sorry excuse of a noble who tried to kill him, he let go Dr.Mengele(C'mon it's obvious where author took inspiration from). Is he good? No, he is a dumbass. If he was 8y old boy living in a bubble, surrounded by loving family that shields him from realities of the world I would understand his actions. I cannot consider it realistic when a 12y old boy who lived in the orphanage, killed, massacred and lived among soldiers has this mentality......

What is more mind boggling is that it is SEINEN i.e. 14-16 and up genre demographic. Are japanese children fluffy like that in those ages? I would understand if it were shounen and to pass censure they needed to create this cringy ass story but it's seinen.
Lastly it is edging fetish manga, where you see a lot of fanservice but 0 progression, where jokes repeat all the time. I'm not for pedo stuff but they already made it so, barely one step? No they have already crossed the line, i don't know about you people but i don't consider 12y boys bathing with women as an appropriate thing.

If author wanted to create a more believable story about everything here, he should have made MC 8years old OR 6 years old then every supposed sexual edging action could be replaced with maternal action and his "morals" could be at least justified since he was doing gruesome stuff before he even understood what he was doing and listened to every BS nobles told him.

true , i sometime actually think that all these japanese authors are actually trying to soften up the teenager of japan , especially boys, i dont even remember how many time i had seen stories where mc gets beaten up ,tortured, sometime even killed , gf cheated on and after all this they will simply forgive other people , hell sometimes they even start working or sucking up to these people or even become friends , and then they will come with a reason "circumstances" like shove those circumstances up your ass, im so over it with all these manga at this point , and yk whats worst these shitty japanese authors are now even trying their hands on manhwa

 

[Monn12]

true , i sometime actually think that all these japanese authors are actually trying to soften up the teenager of japan , especially boys, i dont even remember how many time i had seen stories where mc gets beaten up ,tortured, sometime even killed , gf cheated on and after all this they will simply forgive other people , hell sometimes they even start working or sucking up to these people or even become friends , and then they will come with a reason "circumstances" like shove those circumstances up your ass, im so over it with all these manga at this point , and yk whats worst these shitty japanese authors are now even trying their hands on manhwa

Glad someone noticed it. I also sometimes think it's their agenda.
Because media material influences us, if you read bunch of Machiavellian-like literature you will partially (or wholly) take up character traits from these personas.
What do mangakas cultivate? They always tried to make law-abiding, kind and obedient MC's <-- This never changed, from inception.
What changed is that they increased the volume where you must be law-abiding, kind(even to killer of your family) and obedient to any freaking authority. Now they also added a sissyfied version of men, androgynes and general woke culture.
In essence cultivation obedient cuckold generation(s).

It's painful to see this, especially when i've seen what manga was 20 years ago (still law-abiding and etc. but it was mild).
While their own fucking governments cries about potential demographic collapse, instead of trying to improve the situation they are doing the opposite. Japanese women are not satisfied with men, people are overworked and economy is stagnant. They could at least cultivate masculine traits in men, at least that would remove one problem instead they create women-like people with ding dongs between legs. You cannot go against nature, women like inherently masculine traits and looks, this might change but it will change over many generations naturally but they decided to create an escalator with their media content.

 

[RyuNakayama]

These last 3 comments ain't it. There isn't some "agenda," it's just a story for guys with mommy issues (me). The main character doesn't have any love for the kingdom but the people who inhabit it. He explicitly says in chapter 23 he's thought about taking down the Royal family but didn't go through with that because he felt it was wrong. He arguably punished Levius by letting him go, saying that he needs to live with the that he will always be inferior to Shion. What's this bullshit about "masculine traits" maybe people just want to be themselves. You guys claim to want some mythical return to masculinity or alpha males but isn't it the "alpha" thing to just do what you want? Stop trying to enforce your standards of masculinity on others and just enjoy shit. Or don't, that's fine too. I'm not here to tell you what to think. Also, the story goes more in depth in the world building and story later, save your half baked analysis until after you have the facts.

 

[Monn12]

These last 3 comments ain't it. There isn't some "agenda," it's just a story for guys with mommy issues (me). The main character doesn't have any love for the kingdom but the people who inhabit it. He explicitly says in chapter 23 he's thought about taking down the Royal family but didn't go through with that because he felt it was wrong. He arguably punished Levius by letting him go, saying that he needs to live with the that he will always be inferior to Shion. What's this bullshit about "masculine traits" maybe people just want to be themselves. You guys claim to want some mythical return to masculinity or alpha males but isn't it the "alpha" thing to just do what you want? Stop trying to enforce your standards of masculinity on others and just enjoy shit. Or don't, that's fine too. I'm not here to tell you what to think. Also, the story goes more in depth in the world building and story later, save your half baked analysis until after you have the facts.

First if you want us to respond, you should use "reply" so that we could at least argue with you....

Spoiler: Not really mommy issues

Second, mommy issues? Where the fuck do you see me writing anything about mommy issues? Being soft doesn't mean you have mommy issues, having corrupted sense of justice also doesn't mean you have mommy issues.
The only thing about mommy issues in this work, is that he is being pampered and seduced by older women but this isn't even about mommy issues THOUGH it does cross the spectrum. I myself liked "older" women genre (right until my older women became gilfs....). And like i said if he was 8y old all of the FANSERVICE could be counted as maternal love towards a child, not 12y. It's like he isn't old enough to have sexual relationship with them and too young to be pampered as a child.

Spoiler: Questionable punishment

Who does he love in this kingdom besides those women who are not affiliated with this kingdom? He could like i said leave that country and start a new leaf. Now he is indirectly upholds that royal family power and might over this kingdom. He doesn't threaten them, doesn't demand compensation nor anything else while royal family has a free agent who acts as a stability modifier in this kingdom.
Thing about Levius....You know what's funny a lot of young people do not understand that "he will always be inferior to Shion" thing mostly lasts until your middle ages after that you don't give a flying fuck, but if situation will be favorable and possible you can always take revenge though without any emotions, simply as a show of power.

Spoiler: Not really about masculinity

Masculine traits? It's a general term for some traits that were predominant and highly regarded in male eco-sphere, they are not MALE only but were pillars that made distinction between trash males and good males.
I might have worded it wrongly but his set of morals heavily contradict with his past. Not only that he lets people of questionable morals free. It's even worse than western superhero morals (that are mostly made for pre-teen ages), at least they put people in prison. Letting go people who wronged you or anyone else is called enabling, by that you encourage them to continue this behaviour in the future. Why didn't you point out the situation with Dr.Mengele?

Spoiler: Please spoil me

Please spoil me with this deep world building, it's hard to read something so out of touch with reality. I read korean, chinese and japanese comics. Korean is the most realistic most of the time, they do have overly goody MC's but mostly not to the point of self-destructive behaviour. Chinese usually are...bad in a sense they act like good guys but mostly towards children, girls and some elderly. Japanese on the other hand create MC's too good to be real, they are so good(paragons of virtue) that it is clinically self-destructive behaviour that might be need some therapist sessions.

Spoiler: A bit of psychology

What I mean by self-destructive? Lack of self love, a basic and a major pillar for happy and successful life. Agreeable behaviour on the max spectrum. In general agreeableness is documentally proven to be more on feminine side (more women have that trait than men). Japanese MC's have 0 self love(self respect and etc.), immense agreeable characteristics (trying to please or/and agree with anyone even with hostile people).
Basic psychology of humanity is like that: If we are not punished by our behaviour that behaviour reinforces and later on passes throughout generations both through DNA and social programming. Person who tries to kill you, has to take severe punishment so that he would register it as a grave offense so that next time he would not act upon it. Committing grievous experiments? Severe punishment and better to be known publicly so that people would be afraid to start experimenting in that field. Severe punishment isn't death, death sometimes is better than being sentenced to life in solitary confinement(most of times in my opinion).

 

[AileXadvenTz]

I feel like I read 27 chapers of pure nothing. A romance tag for pure decoration, shitty comedy, shitty action and bad drama. The fanservice sucks too, literally nothing happens ever.

 

[RyuNakayama]

I feel like I read 27 chapers of pure nothing. A romance tag for pure decoration, shitty comedy, shitty action and bad drama. The fanservice sucks too, literally nothing happens ever.

 

[RyuNakayama]

First if you want us to respond, you should use "reply" so that we could at least argue with you....

Spoiler: Not really mommy issues

Second, mommy issues? Where the fuck do you see me writing anything about mommy issues? Being soft doesn't mean you have mommy issues, having corrupted sense of justice also doesn't mean you have mommy issues.
The only thing about mommy issues in this work, is that he is being pampered and seduced by older women but this isn't even about mommy issues THOUGH it does cross the spectrum. I myself liked "older" women genre (right until my older women became gilfs....). And like i said if he was 8y old all of the FANSERVICE could be counted as maternal love towards a child, not 12y. It's like he isn't old enough to have sexual relationship with them and too young to be pampered as a child.

Spoiler: Questionable punishment

Who does he love in this kingdom besides those women who are not affiliated with this kingdom? He could like i said leave that country and start a new leaf. Now he is indirectly upholds that royal family power and might over this kingdom. He doesn't threaten them, doesn't demand compensation nor anything else while royal family has a free agent who acts as a stability modifier in this kingdom.
Thing about Levius....You know what's funny a lot of young people do not understand that "he will always be inferior to Shion" thing mostly lasts until your middle ages after that you don't give a flying fuck, but if situation will be favorable and possible you can always take revenge though without any emotions, simply as a show of power.

Spoiler: Not really about masculinity

Masculine traits? It's a general term for some traits that were predominant and highly regarded in male eco-sphere, they are not MALE only but were pillars that made distinction between trash males and good males.
I might have worded it wrongly but his set of morals heavily contradict with his past. Not only that he lets people of questionable morals free. It's even worse than western superhero morals (that are mostly made for pre-teen ages), at least they put people in prison. Letting go people who wronged you or anyone else is called enabling, by that you encourage them to continue this behaviour in the future. Why didn't you point out the situation with Dr.Mengele?

Spoiler: Please spoil me

Please spoil me with this deep world building, it's hard to read something so out of touch with reality. I read korean, chinese and japanese comics. Korean is the most realistic most of the time, they do have overly goody MC's but mostly not to the point of self-destructive behaviour. Chinese usually are...bad in a sense they act like good guys but mostly towards children, girls and some elderly. Japanese on the other hand create MC's too good to be real, they are so good(paragons of virtue) that it is clinically self-destructive behaviour that might be need some therapist sessions.

Spoiler: A bit of psychology

What I mean by self-destructive? Lack of self love, a basic and a major pillar for happy and successful life. Agreeable behaviour on the max spectrum. In general agreeableness is documentally proven to be more on feminine side (more women have that trait than men). Japanese MC's have 0 self love(self respect and etc.), immense agreeable characteristics (trying to please or/and agree with anyone even with hostile people).
Basic psychology of humanity is like that: If we are not punished by our behaviour that behaviour reinforces and later on passes throughout generations both through DNA and social programming. Person who tries to kill you, has to take severe punishment so that he would register it as a grave offense so that next time he would not act upon it. Committing grievous experiments? Severe punishment and better to be known publicly so that people would be afraid to start experimenting in that field. Severe punishment isn't death, death sometimes is better than being sentenced to life in solitary confinement(most of times in my opinion).

I see what you mean and while I disagree with a few things, I realize my semi-sarcastic reply doesn't really hold water.
I still stand by my position on masculinity. I don't think he needs to kill that doctor. He was most definitely locked up as well. It's definitely a Batman no-kill thing where I, for the most part, understand why he would rather spare a life than outright kill someone. Where I disagree with Shion and Batman is on the irreconcilable, the Jokers and Mengeles of stories. So I kinda get where you're coming from but this is a Shonen and they typically don't do that. I'd expect that kind of execution in a Seinen manga.
The comparison between comics of Japan, Korea, and China is definitely an overgeneralization. We can't account for all here. So I think the idea about Japanese MCs being doormats, while there are many such cases, isn't necessarily true. It's all about genre.

Spoiler: Spoilers

The story delves more into the world of the oppressed in later chapters, especially the non-human characters. While I dont think it took enough time on that (this manga wouldve been better if it was longer and had more time for these things), I still think it holds some merit. Its still a rather story-light manga. Its more focused on interpersonal relationships and fanservice than anything else. Again, I don't exactly expect complex analysis of politics and philosophy from an Ecchi manga about Onee-san maids. Even so, I think it did more than I would expect of most manga in this genre.

The mommy issues thing was mostly a joke but in seriousness, it is definitely aimed at young men who want an older woman figure in their life who takes care of them. I mean, it hit it's mark on me so it's definitely effective. At somepoint, a story isn't really aimed at you. I don't expect to get a ton out of a story like 50 Shades of Grey, I'm not the target audience. While there are things that are universally appealing, sometimes stuff hyper focuses on a certain demographic. So if it's not really your thing, that's completely fine.

 

[Monn12]

I see what you mean and while I disagree with a few things

I agree that i barked at the wrong manga demographics wise.
The problem is i see with shounen of this sort: Evil guys do things that children shouldn't typically know. Mengele like experimentation is definitely out of touch with shounen and more attuned towards seinen.

So author mixed adult world with childrens world but logic and rules of children are applied only to our MC's narrative while we as readers constantly see cruelty and lunacy that get's slap on the wrist. 0 accountability, i would think that it would more beneficial to teach shounens that actions have outcomes. You kill a person? You get life-imprisonment or death sentence (depends on the country, but for experimentation of that sort? Death or life in solitary).

My beef is mostly due to distorted lines of adult-child world.
Even Naruto acknowledged and tried to place real consequences towards criminals who committed grave sins. (After brooding a bit i remembered multiple shounens that mixed adult and child like worlds but it was to a minimum and there was sober reaction towards inhumane criminals).

The Batman logic is basically a propaganda machine coupled with PG rating. It was a comic to promote less vigilante movement among populus and to force people from younger ages to believe in institution. You can make a citizens' arrest but leave the judgment to the state. Batman logic isn't folds as soon as count of killed criminals goes beyond 2.

As for mommy-issues, I stated that it is on the spectrum. It goes towards my preference ever since i was a child, i liked women who are older. My reasons were: Their bodies were more feminine and their demeanor was less about the "game" and more about interest. Now though? I like also younger girls too, since i passed the age threshold and my interest stayed stagnant for roughly 10 years now. (I blame my grandfathers porn magazines, after you've seen well rounded women in them, girls my age were flat like me and even in teen years they felt like they are missing something)
The pampering is the only thing i actually dislike in younger male x older female. (One of the reasons i didn't date much with older women was due to demeaning behavior that you are younger and they know better)

 

[Dakim]

Looking at jp sites I found out that there's only four volumes for the LN, all but the last of them released in 2019 and number four was released in early 2020. Chances are that this got axed real bad, I find it surprising that they bothered to serialize this and published six manga volumes, the last one coming out back in 2023. I don't see a real chance of the author coming back to this, not when he's got like four or so other works on his plate. Sad!

 

[FEN1X64]

Looking at jp sites I found out that there's only four volumes for the LN, all but the last of them released in 2019 and number four was released in early 2020. Chances are that this got axed real bad, I find it surprising that they bothered to serialize this and published six manga volumes, the last one coming out back in 2023. I don't see a real chance of the author coming back to this, not when he's got like four or so other works on his plate. Sad!

Unfortunately that seems to be the case. I don't know all of the details but both the manga and light novel end inconclusively. The ending is cute enough and I have more appreciation for it now then when it came out. I think if it had 4 more manga volumes (so probably 2 light novels), it would've been able to tie up all the loose ends.