Shokei Sareta Kenja wa Lich ni Tensei Shite Shinryaku Sensou wo Hajimaru - Vol. 12 Ch. 48 - Demon Beast

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When has any recipient of the Will of the World’s buffs ever thought it was anything other than the results of their own hard work and talent, and the righteousness of their cause?
The one I can remember off the top of my head is the scientist guy who was creating machines that shouldn’t be physically possible or output that much destruction with how scuffed its blueprints were supposed to be
 
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Thank you for the chapter! So does the Will of the World just not realize how much damage it's doing to its own humans or something? It's literally killing more people and causing more damage than if it did nothing.
Dwight observed that the Will doesn’t care if Humanity gets wiped out, as John Doe angering the Great Spirit could have been an extinction level event, but the Will still allowed it to happen.
 
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this. MC was a damn sage when alive, one of, strongest magic users around, now he's boosted even further by the miasma, but outta nowhere some random ass clown mofo ''I'm BETTER! GET SHIT ON'' and starts to stir shit up? Come the fuck on now
A human sage, with limited lifespan to learn and grow.

Miasma basically just give MC boatload of mana not skill levels/tiers/mastery.

It's like a level 1 detect with surplus mana could cover whole city but a higher tier sneak would avoid that.

That is also the reason the clown didn't attack MC head on. He knew he would lose.
 
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Will of the World is going for Greater Evil to defeat Lawful Evil.

it's called Will of the World, not Wisdom of the World
 
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Well, that clown just signed his death warrant. I wonder if the demon lord will be able to save his town folks without destroying them? 🤔

Thanks for the upload.
 
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Did people just forget that it’s been spelled out, literally by Dwight himself, that the Will of the World creates ass-pulls just to oppose him because of how insanely unnatural Dwight’s attempt at world peace is to how the Will wants things to work?
Like the mid-battle power up of Heroes, and even bringing in an isekai Hero with the Will filling in the blanks of engineering schematics so that they would actually work, have been in this manga since the beginning.
The other antagonists didn't have plot elements that felt incongruous to previously established facts in the story, is my personal problem with this.

Dwight was the sage sent with the hero. He was then able to become a lich with his knowledge of magic. That's a big deal. For them to suddenly introduce someone who knows things about magic he doesn't, makes me assume that we were either lied to about Dwight's ability, or that The Will (or just the writer) is now actively making Dwight lose abilities he should already have had- saying he's just forgotten or didn't know things rings hollow when it was established that he had been a sage on par with the hero.

Also, any magic-user who could have been on par with Dwight should have been one of the first people The Will empowered, but first we got heroes from this world, which should have included this guy, then we got an Isekai hero, and only after that did The Will go for this guy who was a magic user even stronger than Dwight, who knows how to be invisible to everybody and has access to monster juice. This guy is an obvious solution and the first or second thing it should have tried. He should have been introduced earlier. If the Will really didn't want the balance of power disrupted, it would have gone for importing things (like the isekai guy) to stop Dwight only after it had used up resources already at its disposal, to keep the cure from becoming worse than the disease. The venn diagram of "Resources already at its disposal" and "this new jerk" overlap completely. The isekai guy should have been one of the last threats Dwight faced.

And finally, i think that his design just plain looks completely out of place in general. This is subjective, but it's something noted by other people in this thread.

Establishing a reason for God to hate the hero isn't enough to make up for writing that showcases a lack of foresight. It feels like the writer just didn't think of this arc at all until now, and changed parts of Dwight's backstory and established abilities to fit the new antagonist into the story. To use a metaphor, those are load bearing story elements, and I don't trust the writer enough to keep this story from collapsing.
 
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It seems like a lot of people either don't actually read the story or have difficulty remembering with how many people are upset the story is doing what the story always does
We know people get propped up to oppose the MC is a major plot point. The issue is it's not just that it's an asspull, it's a dumb eyeroller. Pulling some guy out of nowhere who effortlessly dunks on the MC is hack writing. There's no build up to this guy, no mystery, no stakes, he's just there monologuing to himself for several pages. A stealthier antagonist is the correct choice given Dwight is unmatched in direct power, but this is anything but subtle, it's hacky shounentard writing.

Now this is just my opinion, but rather than throwing the next guy out there and deflating all mystery or tension, the next antagonist should've been someone indistinguishable from the crowd. And most importantly, don't instantly reveal it to the reader. Start making Dwight paranoid if the mastermind could be anyone in a crowd of people and his monsters could appear anywhere. If his only appearance was as the girl bringing water this chapter wouldn't have been as retarded.
 
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I'm only mad that the magical beasts the citizens turned into all look like dudes...

Thanks for the scanlation!
 
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I think people are getting upset too quickly. Yes, clown/jester is very cliche, but I am waiting to see their motivations before passing judgement.
 
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this. MC was a damn sage when alive, one of, strongest magic users around, now he's boosted even further by the miasma, but outta nowhere some random ass clown mofo ''I'm BETTER! GET SHIT ON'' and starts to stir shit up? Come the fuck on now
From what i see the world is constantly trying to create something a bit stronger than him to beat him and keep that thing as the main good or evil force until its time for it to die and get replaced keeping the loop of peace and fighting evil going to not create something too powerful, he is not a part of that loop and broke the natural world order, the thing that is trying to push him out is probably not just some sentient God that can come down and smite him whenever and just empowers already existing beings with knowledge or power. He just keeps adapting.
 
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Thank you for the chapter! So does the Will of the World just not realize how much damage it's doing to its own humans or something? It's literally killing more people and causing more damage than if it did nothing.
The Great Spirit works for the "Will of the World" and they don't care about humanity or anything else, just the world. All these enemies are being brought in by an external power, that seemingly doesn't care about the world or the people.
 
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Dwight was the sage sent with the hero. He was then able to become a lich with his knowledge of magic. That's a big deal. For them to suddenly introduce someone who knows things about magic he doesn't, makes me assume that we were either lied to about Dwight's ability, or that The Will (or just the writer) is now actively making Dwight lose abilities he should already have had- saying he's just forgotten or didn't know things rings hollow when it was established that he had been a sage on par with the hero.
If this guy is a general of the demon lord's army, like he's being kinda hinted to be, I don't see why this is an issue. Remember, as far as "character importance power" scales go, Dwight wasn't the main character (the hero), he was just part of their party. The opposite of the hero is the demon lord, and the generals are essentially the demon lord's equivalent of the hero's party. So the generals should be on par with the members of the hero party, with specializations in their specific areas, just like the hero's party.

Dwight being a sage gives him master-level knowledge of all magic, presumably, but someone who's a demon general presumably solely off of his stealth skills, would obviously be superior to his detection. Otherwise, the ability levels would be imbalanced. This isn't an asspull, because the existence of demon lord generals was already established. Kinda similar to how Luciana isn't very powerful, but within her specialty (mind manipulation/charm) she's top notch.
 
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Y'all this guy was first revealed ages ago in the fight against the mecha. It was Dwight's example of a superior enemy he faced and defeated with wits. Calling it an asspull, smh.
 

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It seems like a lot of people either don't actually read the story or have difficulty remembering with how many people are upset the story is doing what the story always does
Look at any manga comment section, there's always going to be someone outraged because the story isn't going exactly the way they want.
 

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