Sousei no Taiga - Vol. 5 Ch. 39 - Adaptation
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Well, Ren's behavior is easy to understand. He's angry with himself for being a coward, and too much of a coward to admit it and try to change, so all that is left is to delude himself into thinking he made the only right choice, which would make Taiga be in the wrong.
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So... Whats wrong with killing people who want to kill you? Being logical and kind in that kind of world is just being pure stupid. Honestly, Ren is just being a fuckin idiot. His way of conducting himself is infuriating me. Killing means survive. Is that so hard to understand? fuckin imbecile.
anyway, this just my pov. dont start bombing me out of nowhere, keyboard warriors.
anyway, this just my pov. dont start bombing me out of nowhere, keyboard warriors.
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If you've read the author's other works (Suicide Island and Holyland), you'll see that Ren's thoughts are pretty common for him. Fundamentally, we value life, so, even when it's justified, killing someone or causing violence leaves a heavy mental toll. When you stop feeling that weight, you start to value life less.
Even if you act quickly in the moment due to instinct/reflexes, it's not easy to feel okay with violence and murder. That's just a fundamental part of human psychology. This seems to be something the author went through personally and he includes it in most of his works. This manga isn't supposed to be an action manga, but a more psychological one. If you want more of the former, I highly recommend Holyland.
Sidenote: this mental recoil after seeing death was overpowered for most of human history, because we saw death so much. Most infants did not survive till 6 years old, plagues were commonplace and murder was common. It's only after these problems were reduced, that we started to value life more.
Even if you act quickly in the moment due to instinct/reflexes, it's not easy to feel okay with violence and murder. That's just a fundamental part of human psychology. This seems to be something the author went through personally and he includes it in most of his works. This manga isn't supposed to be an action manga, but a more psychological one. If you want more of the former, I highly recommend Holyland.
Sidenote: this mental recoil after seeing death was overpowered for most of human history, because we saw death so much. Most infants did not survive till 6 years old, plagues were commonplace and murder was common. It's only after these problems were reduced, that we started to value life more.
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Nah, Ren is the type of Guy who would hide in the closet and watch his family be killed, then scold his son when he ends up killing one of the robbers by hitting them on the head just because he was happy about surviving.
Nah, Ren is the type of Guy who would hide in the closet and watch his family be killed, then scold his son when he ends up killing one of the robbers by hitting them on the head just because he was happy about surviving.
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Ren should just go back to Jisatsutou 😂
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I would say running away by yourself is evil action. You leave people who trusts you behind. Better person is the one who protects them.
And we know that even in modern society, persons life, who tries to kill you, is worth less then yours cause you legally can kill him in self defense. It seems that runner is just scared and puts blame on MC for that.
And we know that even in modern society, persons life, who tries to kill you, is worth less then yours cause you legally can kill him in self defense. It seems that runner is just scared and puts blame on MC for that.
people are saying that Ren is such a burden or annoying or acts like he's a saint.
But look at it in the way that he is the one who has struggled the most adapting, he didn't have much talents appart from knowledge of the time period, to be useful.
He understands that killing for self defense is justified, but is uneasy with the way they cheer when killing an enemy, with celebration of death. He has accepted that's the people of that time. But when it comes to his friends, who lived in the modern era with him and were just civilians a couple months ago, being so easy with the concept of killing. And even accepting that in a situation of self defense, but it's not an easy thing to swallow. What makes him hurt the most is not that, but seeing people being happy or excited after having just killed.
And don't come with the thing that in modern times we have war as well, or the fact that Japan did even more horrendous things during WW2. These guys are civilians, young adults, of modern Japan which only has self-defense forces. They're not the soldiers, and people today can still be critical of modern wars, and civilians are not responsible for the wars that they do not take place in.
The character of Ren is being used to portray a perspective that's perfectly normal, he's not being dumb or naive, he's fucking scared and most of us would probably have issues like his in a situation like this.
But look at it in the way that he is the one who has struggled the most adapting, he didn't have much talents appart from knowledge of the time period, to be useful.
He understands that killing for self defense is justified, but is uneasy with the way they cheer when killing an enemy, with celebration of death. He has accepted that's the people of that time. But when it comes to his friends, who lived in the modern era with him and were just civilians a couple months ago, being so easy with the concept of killing. And even accepting that in a situation of self defense, but it's not an easy thing to swallow. What makes him hurt the most is not that, but seeing people being happy or excited after having just killed.
And don't come with the thing that in modern times we have war as well, or the fact that Japan did even more horrendous things during WW2. These guys are civilians, young adults, of modern Japan which only has self-defense forces. They're not the soldiers, and people today can still be critical of modern wars, and civilians are not responsible for the wars that they do not take place in.
The character of Ren is being used to portray a perspective that's perfectly normal, he's not being dumb or naive, he's fucking scared and most of us would probably have issues like his in a situation like this.
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Ren is wrong. He's just being EXTREMELY oversensitive. They're in a kill or be killed world, the neanderthals would've had ZERO problems killing them.
"Its always better to run" WHY? WHAT? NO? HOW? IF THEY'RE RAPING YOUR WIFE, YOU SHOULD RUN? HE'S JUST A PATHETIC EXTREMIST PACIFIST! STOP FORCING OTHERS TO BECOME PACIFISTS. PACIFISM IS EQUAL TO SELF HARM!
"Its always better to run" WHY? WHAT? NO? HOW? IF THEY'RE RAPING YOUR WIFE, YOU SHOULD RUN? HE'S JUST A PATHETIC EXTREMIST PACIFIST! STOP FORCING OTHERS TO BECOME PACIFISTS. PACIFISM IS EQUAL TO SELF HARM!
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I'm getting major jason brody vibes from taiga. his speech is pretty similar to jason's speech about killing and winning.
