I feel like you're using the meme dismissively, but men not getting basic things like community, and respect is very much a sign of collapse.
I am sure you'd feel more at home at 1469chan or something.
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And why is that lol. Sloppy seconds is only mention there I suppose ?
I am sure you'd feel more at home at 1469chan or something.
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Well, the western country I am living in is doing quite well.
Brevity is the soul of wit, but we could use a bit less soul: I don't know what you're trying to say here.
Which one is that? Because in America, we've got all the markers of collapse. From widespread loneliness, depression, nihilism, and suicide, to the age of marriage climbing nearly past women's fertility window, and, among many other things, the rise of a death cult.
"Societal issues" are just a bunch of personal issues clumped together- the same way flesh is just a bunch of cells combined.
No point in that these days, especially with false sexual assault accusations, promiscuity, and other fatherless behavior being prevalent. Even trudging through doesn't guarantee you love, respect, and success, so it's all stick, and no carrot. Not to mention the fact that men and women don't drink from the same well anymore, so there's no real opportunity to meet people.
I get the sense English isn't your first language. But I think you're saying that it's men's fault they can't find wives?
I can't really comment on your country. But since it seems Western, I assume it's got basically the same problems.
Sees someone referring basic impulse control / purity -> goes immediately on “mah success“ / “getting laid” wall rant
I am sure you'd feel more at home at 1469chan or something.
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Society owes you nothing, women owe you nothing. Most Incels who can't get female companionship have only themselves to blame, not society.
Widespread loneliness plagues all developed societies. No comment on depression, and "nihilism" , well, I am not so sure about that. Suicide? Well... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate <-- could be worse.
Depending on the topic and people involved in the discussion it may be better if less personal details are known, some people tend to assume things and categorize on reflex, the resulting generalizations are kinda meh... Potentially. Ehh, whatever.That is your opinion, I beg to differ... Well, I am also single because I cannot be arsed to deal with what I perceive as "relationship cancer", right now I just wanna do my own thing on my own. For now.
Happens. Am I gonna stop biking because someone could drive me over? Nah... I think my dusty mountain bike needs maintenance. : D
Not helpful if a parent is missing, but most people aren't shit because they lack a father or a mother...
Nothing is certain, certain defeat is inevitable without at least trying, and it has always been a chase, but yeah, income vs cost of living is becoming shittier by the day in the west. You mentioned respect, but that one is also complicated, I for one honestly don't give a crap what people think about me, it's good enough if family and friends like me... Well, there are people who studied for years, excelled and now are stuck with a shitty boss, so much for respect. They are not really stuck, most people can change their job and other aspects of their life, but not always. A friend of mine hates her boring job, but the pay is good and she has children and the job is secure.
What is that even supposed to mean? I tend to be a loner but even I know 1000 places in the city where I can meet people and 1000 ways how to meet them, even the internet or shitebook (FB - fun fact, I never made a FB acc) etc. may be of help.
English, heh, what's the issue?
Nah, but the division is rising and the industry is suffering a bit without cheap Russian gas, was also retarded to phase out nuclear power in the country, but we will manage. Yes, there are other issues too, but ehh...
cope
A society exists for the benefit of its members. A society that doesn't provide for its members is a failure, and it effectively already collapsed. Why do you think people make and follow rules? Shits and giggles? We have norms and laws so that everyone is better off when they're followed. If you think that people are supposed to just subscribe to one without being owed a benefit, you reject the very basis of the construct.
I know the developed world is on the brink of collapse, don't worry. It's why I brought it up.
This isn't about reproduction; we're not in relationships anymore.
Yeah, that's not a great place. Oh boy.
Yeah. Marxist Communists. They've infiltrated every facet of global life, and have made great efforts to systematically destroy every pillar that underpins it. Between the destruction of concepts of law, order, morality, and duty, to the physical destruction of cities, monuments, and markets, to now the attempted assassination of President Trump- and all the other things I don't have time to bring up... there's been nothing more destructive to this world.
After yesterday, it's probably too late to avoid one.
"Happens" is not a valid response. A single word and your entire life is ruined. Your reputation is gone, your accuser faces no consequences, your job is lost, and even going to court to clear your name doesn't fix anything. All this risk so you can spend a short while with used goods, and, best-case scenario, get dumped before you end up married, leaves you no incentive to play.
I said "Father", not mother. Fathers are critical in the healthy development of a child. I'd say that almost all convicts are fatherless, but somehow that's still understating the problem.
I don't know. All the sentences made sense on their own, but they didn't build to make anything bigger, somehow. It was weird.
I still remember New Year's Eve in Cologne.
Lol. success = imma preach in manga sectionLet me be blunt: I don't think we see eye to eye, quite possible the policies we want and world view we have are in conflict, but who knows.
Society owes you nothing, women owe you nothing. Most Incels who can't get female companionship have only themselves to blame, not society.
(Soyciety and soy etc. are memes from the places where I want #22 to go btw.
And I have to admit, I do miss decent IBs, feels like all boards are crap now, but I basically stopped going "there" in my mid twenties so almost a decade ago.)
Widespread loneliness plagues all developed societies. No comment on depression, and "nihilism" , well, I am not so sure about that. Suicide? Well... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate <-- could be worse.
Well, the more developed a society is, the less likely people are to reproduce. Yeah, I guess you know these things, but this one I don't see as a problem, well it is if we look at available personal to take care of the elderly and publicly funded pension funds etc.
Death cult? You may or may not agree, but I perceive these as dangerous: Project 2025? MAGA? Christian turbo nationalism?
Oh, well, since you answered where you are from guess I have to do the same: Germany but I am imported from the Soviet Union - well, either way, I am German, for better or worse.
I think your country will stay intact if no civil war breaks out, I for one don't want a "murkan" civil war.
That is your opinion, I beg to differ... Well, I am also single because I cannot be arsed to deal with what I perceive as "relationship cancer", right now I just wanna do my own thing on my own. For now.
Happens. Am I gonna stop biking because someone could drive me over? Nah... I think my dusty mountain bike needs maintenance. : D
There are shit people regardless of gender. Yes, I know, marvelous insight.
Some years ago a woman told other peeps I beat her, a few people believed her and cut contact with me. Nothing of value was lost. "shrug"
Why did people believe her? Some grew up with her, some did because she was a women ("ding!" societal issue), some believed her because she had bruises since her bf was actually the one beating her.
Should potential fake rape allegations really hinder one to seek out a mate?
Either way, I instantly drop people who are shit, no more issues for years once I got less forgiving. Pull bs once and I instantly cut you out of my life, that's how I operate, once I started doing it 99% of my interpersonal problems vanished.
Not helpful if a parent is missing, but most people aren't shit because they lack a father or a mother...
Nothing is certain, certain defeat is inevitable without at least trying, and it has always been a chase, but yeah, income vs cost of living is becoming shittier by the day in the west. You mentioned respect, but that one is also complicated, I for one honestly don't give a crap what people think about me, it's good enough if family and friends like me... Well, there are people who studied for years, excelled and now are stuck with a shitty boss, so much for respect. They are not really stuck, most people can change their job and other aspects of their life, but not always. A friend of mine hates her boring job, but the pay is good and she has children and the job is secure.
What is that even supposed to mean? I tend to be a loner but even I know 1000 places in the city where I can meet people and 1000 ways how to meet them, even the internet or shitebook (FB - fun fact, I never made a FB acc) etc. may be of help.
And I feel like the USA is more outgoing thanYuropEurope, so... Yeah, there are also rural areas and the south so idk.
English, heh, what's the issue?
Well, most incels are indeed at fault they can't get a girl, at least from what I can see irl and on the internet. Heck, I have friends I grew up with, they are their own worst enemy, and yep, there are even Femcels. : D
Last year my mother complained about "femcels" she knows irl, thought men didn't have >those< kind of people since "they are less into bs", she was surprised when I told her there are a lot more "Incels". : D
These, those, there's my "verrrry gud" English again. Anyway, I don't want children, I don't wanna marry so no wife for me. Gf again when I feel like it, but currently it's a nope.
Nah, but the division is rising and the industry is suffering a bit without cheap Russian gas, was also retarded to phase out nuclear power in the country, but we will manage. Yes, there are other issues too, but ehh...
cope
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E: >developed society vs birth rate
Education, income, Maslow, secularism, non conservative values and whatnot, but most importantly: contraception
Ehh, and private or public social nets and retirement plans and so on, but what do I know, maybe some expert in demographics or sociology knows more.
E2: And yes, if I fall in love again and she really wants children, yes, I could change my mind, and maybe we'll even get married, but I don't want that, but who knows what the future will bring. Please spare me.
E3: post hopefully fix'd
E4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report << mmmm
This map is from an article from 2013: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/11/depression-rates.jpg
Ahh, yes, Bezos owns this newspaper.
Well, that's correct but you still have to put in effort, do your part. So society owes me x is imo a retarded statement.
Most people are shit, someone who wants me to earn x or work job y or drive car z is indeed not worth my time, but she is free to have such demands just as I am free to pass on her, there are other fish in the pond, she can choose and see what she gets and so do I.
I strongly disagree. But ehh, what do I know as a German.
Wat. I can have a relationshit just fine, people around me have relationships just fine. "shakes head"
Oh boy...
Most people, and yes, that includes women -- badum-tss, want the same as you: Love, food, sex, safety etc. (it's Maslow again, probably middle school baby sociology 101) The crazy skanks and dicks aren't the majority. That is reality.
From what little sociology I know: Mothers are more important. About the convicts: Nooooot sure if that is true...
Ahh, pardon me, that is obviously, entirely on me, yeah, I guess my recent indulgence in IBs ("relapse" x D) is to blame, or so I think, maybe I just have the tendency to write like that, after all it is easy but not eloquent. This and that, there is my "verry gud" English once again. : D
That is true, I forgot about that one. The new years mass rape caused by immigrants. I had this and similar arguments with other more conservative people irl and on the internet.
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I did 3s "research", and in conclusion: Most likely true. Mmmm. Also 3s "research": Seems like the majority of black kids in the US also have this problem.
Awwww, &%$! Sorry about that.
Gonna fix it now. E: Wait, I am still sorry but that must be some bug in the forum SW since I marked and used the popped up reply arrow. Damn, who knows what even went wrong. It didn't, just thought I got a hit and it was more or less a shit post, but I do think at least the self incel'd incels are wrong.
Who would even want that?
Agree, which is my main beef with this manga as it was a bait and switch. It started with a harem theme/traits as it was market as a Harem. However, 33 chapters in and we can clearly see it has nothing to do with it as its more focused on action and supernatural stuff, which the author clearly enjoys more. Perhaps thats why the MC is none existent and everything is focused on random chicks.
The video goes with the stuff that came before it. You're almost there, buddy. You've got all the parts to figure it out: Guys want girls->They're told what to do->They do the thing->Nobody owes them. Rinse and repeat until you give up.
Doesn't sound like you've married and had kids. Hell, it doesn't sound like you've even got a long-term, spouse-like woman. This is the exact definition of "not having a relationship".
Good. Almost nobody does. And I'm counting down for those relationship of theirs to inevitably crumble.
Then you haven't been paying attention. At all.
Look up "It's not gonna lick itself dallas" if you want to have a bad day. Then realize that this is exactly what firms like Blackrock spread. Honestly, if you have literally no idea what I'm talking about, you've been ignoring politics for over a decade at this point.
Yeah they are. What a weird thing to say. Most "dating" doesn't have marriage and kids as an end goal. It's literally just people playing house until the woman gets bored and leaves.
Yeah, for infants, mostly. Men have no natural instincts to care for infants.
Congrats on being one of the lucky 10,000.
My dude, my Brother in Christ, my Kumpel, my Alter... if you find yourself saying anything along the lines of "Ok, they terrorized an entire city for a whole night, raping every woman they could find, and blew up fireworks in people's faces... and yeah, they're 10 to 1,000 times more likely to commit crimes... BUT..." You need to stop, take a breath, and re-evaluate. You are deep inside a hole of luxury beliefs, and this is your wake up call.
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Never heard of it. Aaand after 3s search: Guess I heard of it.
So what? I am not religious and don't want kids, I am 99% certain I wont be making any kids because I really don't want any, but people are free to think that's wrong. Someone wants kids? Good for them.
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Well, women end relationshits more often than man. "shrug"
First: As I said, the actual numbers of crimes per 100k were made up since I am too lazy to look them up, but the factors of 10 to 1000 are actually true, at least the last time I looked at the numbers they were correct, I did that possibly over 5 years ago sometime after the Syria-IS thing, and I bet the factors still mostly correct.
M8, (almost) no such a thing in Germany. We don't have Sharia Zones (kek) like Britistan. We do have run down areas in some cities with a significantly higher crime rate than the rest, but I bet my ass they are safer than most metropolitan areas in the USA...
Right. I got that part. I'm encouraging you to put it together.
Not a conspiracy theory; Literal stated goals, and the basis of their business model.
"But the Cathlics" isn't a response. This is an open, widespread, and celebrated problem. A couple priests molesting some choir boys then being shuffled around to some remote post is incomparable to any of what you just saw.
So... it's not a relationship. The point of those is to have and raise strong, healthy children.
I know. When people admit things that are inconvenient for them, you can be damn sure it's true.
By the sounds of it more than half of Marxloh residents aren't citizens. If they commit crimes at least 10 times more often than natives, the natives themselves would have to commit half as much crime as White Americans to maybe be as safe as places like Portland, Oregon (Note: Not safe). But most metropolitan areas in the US are run by Communists to begin with, so it's a tight race, I'd say.
I trust actual facts backed by evidence, based on facts I form my world view, based on facts I act, or so I'd like to believe since everyone is biased, at least to a certain degree.
I rarely get offended. And I watch anime with one of my Junior TL's once a week.
