Tag Definitions

[BraveDude8]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DzIHLDBQChJK0vRf-1v9PDRi0adPKSZEk4PjPS3wIKg/edit?usp=sharing

This is an attempt to clean up tag definitions in preparation for dedicated tag pages, and to help with inconsistent tagging on MD.

Comment in here or on the doc itself with questions/suggestions.

EDIT: This is defining existing tags, not adding new ones.

 

[czmn]

Add format definitions

 

[BraveDude8]

Add format definitions

@Tristan__ Added, now help me fill it out

 

[T10_]

@Tristan__ Added, now help me fill it out

 

[ThreeFold]

I threw some definitions of Formats, not sure if they are 100% correct or succinct enough.

 

[czmn]

If a title was a oneshot, but then the author released an extra/special chapter few months after the original chapter, should we get rid of the oneshot tag? (and report for chapter renumber)

the specific title I'm trying to fix:

https://mangadex.org/title/4e94d94d...oman-for-the-first-time-for-me-who-was-lonely

 

[Atifus]

Might as well add "Related Manga" Definitions as well

Some I am sure of...

Based on
The original work the comic is the fan-creation of.

Doujinshi
Fan-created work of the comic.

Colored
Colored colored release of the comic.

Monochrome
Black and White release of the comic.

Prequel
Comic that proceeds this one.

Sequel
Comic that succeeds this one.

Prolly will need to edit these :0

 

[rawhat]

Might as well add "Related Manga" Definitions as well

If you do, pair the opposites, that you set on each series.

From the discord pins by AntsyLych:

prequel <> sequel
monochrome <> colored
serialization <> preserialization
based_on <> doujinshi
adapted_from <> spin_off
main_story <> side_story
same_franchise <> same_franchise
shared_universe <> shared_universe
alternate_story <> alternate_story

 

[astromath]

I see that some tags for themes should belong to genre and vice versa. Main example is superheroes tag is a genre, but martial artists tag is a theme. The question should be asked would be what makes superheroes a genre and not a theme? I don't see anywhere MD's definitions for genre and theme.

Personal opinion: some tags can belong to both catagories.

 

[seekermoc]

I see that some tags for themes should belong to genre and vice versa. Main example is superheroes tag is a genre, but martial artists tag is a theme. The question should be asked would be what makes superheroes a genre and not a theme? I don't see anywhere MD's definitions for genre and theme.

Personal opinion: some tags can belong to both catagories.

I think the general idea is that genres are broader / more generic whereas themes are more specific, though I completely agree that the difference is poorly defined and not very useful.

 

[XilumDreemurr]

does bdsm counts as S. Violence? its not unwanted right?

 

[XilumDreemurr]

does urban fantasy, as in modern world fantasy like solo levelling and dungeon manhwas counts as fantasy?

 

[vipguy64]

does bdsm counts as S. Violence? its not unwanted right?

Super late response but I'll answer it for anyone who comes across this later. If the BDSM is consensual it's not sexual violence.

does urban fantasy, as in modern world fantasy like solo levelling and dungeon manhwas counts as fantasy?

Yeah it'll still count.

 

[HeliumDreemur]

is bisexual (Ex:Female, likes both gender) GL too?

 

[Bartolumiu]

I got bored, so I rewrote the entirety of the tag guidelines in both English and Spanish while trying to remove any possible ambiguous parts... (I can't upload individual .pdf files, so here's a .zip file with both files)

 

[Manko-sensei]

I got bored, so I rewrote the entirety of the tag guidelines in both English and Spanish while trying to remove any possible ambiguous parts... (I can't upload individual .pdf files, so here's a .zip file with both files)

It's good to see them rewritten by a single person, specially to avoid checking the side notes. I'd include some details in some tags, but for the general public I think it's plenty. About the Spanish translation, some picky terms: en 4-koma se le llama viñeta al inglés "panel", y para doujinshi fanzine en vez de "fanwork".

 

[Bartolumiu]

It's good to see them rewritten by a single person, specially to avoid checking the side notes. I'd include some details in some tags, but for the general public I think it's plenty. About the Spanish translation, some picky terms: en 4-koma se le llama viñeta al inglés "panel", y para doujinshi fanzine en vez de "fanwork".

According to some sources I found, panels are actually called both "paneles" and "viñetas".
On the other hand, I actually didn't know that the term was "fanzine" instead of "fanwork"...
Anyways, I applied both suggestions and the zip file should now have the corrected terms.
Thanks for the corrections!

Sources:

• Semiótica del Cómic: Códigos y Convenciones / Semiotics of Comics: Codes and Conventions - Universidad de La Rioja
• Fanzine - Diccionario de la lengua española | RAE - ASALE

 

[wodniobojca188]

Regarding "Webcomic" Tag, I'm just assuming that Jump+, Comicwalker and Magazine Pocket's series are excluded?
Since it's officially published, often put behind a paywall, and with planned physical releases by default, which is very different than how Pixiv/Twitter operates. but I still can't be 100% sure.

Twitter and Pixiv are used as example, but since it's only examples, I have no clue what else is supposed to classify or not.

Nowadays, vast majority of official series are semi-published online. I hope sites like Jump+ aren't included in the tag, since if it was the case, then most of ongoing manga series would need webcomic tag, and it'd become quite useless and tedious.

I'd like to know how to tag it on the site, so I could fix curent messy situation. For example half of Jump+ series are tagged as webcomic, and half are not.

 

[Manko-sensei]

It seems the determining factor is whether they're self-published or not (Pixiv and Twitter follow this, same for Webtoon), there are more publishers as time passes such as Comic Fuz that start by posting chapters online as they're written (not necessarely behind a paywall) and as soon as they have enough chapters they release a volume (tankoubon). I only deduce that from usage, since if the determining factor were that they started by being uploaded on a website then a lot of changes should be done. As for Jump+... I have no idea, the few series I follow don't have the tag even if they started online but they had volumes as the chapters came.

 

[wodniobojca188]

It seems the determining factor is whether they're self-published or not (Pixiv and Twitter follow this, same for Webtoon), there are more publishers as time passes such as Comic Fuz that start by posting chapters online as they're written (not necessarely behind a paywall) and as soon as they have enough chapters they release a volume (tankoubon). I only deduce that from usage, since if the determining factor were that they started by being uploaded on a website then a lot of changes should be done. As for Jump+... I have no idea, the few series I follow don't have the tag even if they started online but they had volumes as the chapters came.

It sounds exacly like Jump+ does it.

When it comes to Weekly Shonen Jump and Jump+, the publishing process is almost the same, with one exception:

• Instead of releasing chapters belonging to multiple series, inside of physical magazine issues, each chapter releases online on established schedule (different schedule for each series).

We westerners won't even feel the difference, since we don't have non-japanese versions of physical magazines like Weekly Shonen Jump available, anyway. We all who don't know japanese, read either online or tankoubon.

For example, In case of Jump+ vs Twitter, there is a tremendous difference:

• On Twitter, new chapters can be uploaded completely irregularly,
• Independency in terms of creation (no censorship from publisher or required minimum amount of pages per chapter.)
• cannot get cancelled (IP isn't co-owned by a 3rd party)
• no guaranteed tankoubon releases (unlike Jump+, which publishes every, even the least popular series as a tankoubon, as long as it wasn't established as indie title.)

PS: I just noticed that "self-published" is not included on the tag list, that was linked here. What would be a difference between self-published and web comi?. Wouldn't self-published be the Pixiv/Twitter one? it's independent from a publisher, after all.