Taida na Akujoku Kizoku ni Tensei shita Ore, Scenario o Bukkowashitara Kikakugai no Maryoku de Saikyou ni Natta - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

[ARealCoolGuy]

Another inconsistency(which IMO is the worst part of the story) is how Weiss seems to all of a sudden antagonize the Protagonist despite him saying he wants to avoid his doomed fate.

I read it as the MC realising that the original Weiss was still inside him, and therefore had a dislike for Allen. It wasn't just Allen either, MC wanted to stand above all others and thus worked hard to beat everyone, lower their school points and have them expelled.

 

[Heavenstar]

did someone read the source material (which i suspect to be either a light- or a webnovel)? cause i'd really like to know why the maid is so strong. like did she train with the adventurer teacher in secret or was she always strong and just let this dude mistreat her in the past cause it's her job (manga logic)?

Spoiler

She is strong because she was once a slave trained to be an Assassin at a young age.

In that world, the Ducal family who monopolizes the slave trade, had their slaves learn specialized skills to increase their value and Lilith just so happens to have the talent to be an assassin.

 

[Galder]

Spoiler

She is strong because she was once a slave trained to be an Assassin at a young age.

In that world, the Ducal family who monopolizes the slave trade, had their slaves learn specialized skills to increase their value and Lilith just so happens to have the talent to be an assassin.

thanks! much appreciated!

 

[Heavenstar]

I read it as the MC realising that the original Weiss was still inside him, and therefore had a dislike for Allen. It wasn't just Allen either, MC wanted to stand above all others and thus worked hard to beat everyone, lower their school points and have them expelled.

True but
it just came out of the blue like it would have been better if it had been foreshadowed a little earlier but either way that was a small point and my only complaint in an otherwise superb story. [I/SPOILER]

 

[Heavenstar]

thanks! much appreciated!

No problemo

 

[IronSagitario]

That

Spoiler

Belongs to the Original Weiss who has been stuck in a timeloop and summoned the current Weiss to his body.

You see in the 1st timeline OG Weiss live his life exactly like in the game acting like a jerk to everybody and things went exactly like in the game as well, Hero and Heroine were in love with each other, Lilith running away after all the abuse she suffered, him siding with the Demon Lord then getting killed but the Hero and Heroine failing to kill the Demon Lord.

However when he died he found himself, exactly where the current Weiss "woke up" while whipping Lilith so he resolved to do things differently and get stronger to escape his fate, he soon realized after he got expelled again during his first loop that in order to get stronger, he needed to change his attitude towards others.

And so he did, during his third loop he changed his attitude completely and tried to get along with everybody and as time went on, he grew bonds with everyone who can make him stronger(The Hero,Heroine, the "Bro" Character, his sempais.. the girls who fell in love(One of them owas the Hero's childhood friend Shari) with him and trult began to regret his actions yet he failed to kill the Demon Lord and everyone died he found himself looping again to the point where he was whipping Lilith.

And no matter how much stronger he got, no matter how much he tried to do things differently, he kept failing and looping and he began to be filled with self loathing calling himself a Lazy, Villainous Noble.

And by the 1000th loop, he was mentally broken due to his continued failure at failing to save his friends and watching them suffer and die(sometimes to save him) and realized he had been "living" for 4k plus years since the events at school and the fight against the Demon Lord took 4 years and so he gave up and decided to spend his loops researching on how to break the loop.

He soon discoveres a spell which will allow him to summon someone else in his place when exactly at the point where he loops at the cost of destroying his own soul.

So, right before he activated his spell, he finally confessed to the hero's childhood friend that he loved her too and this will be the last time he will see her and so the events of the series take place.

When he woke up he, realized his soul was fading but not completely gone felt someone else moving his body but can see and all that he was doing.

He was happy that the one he summoned treated Lilith nicely, found it amusing how he made the Heroine fall in love with him when she always fell in love with the Protagonist in the original timeline and across all loops but felt sad when he saw the Hero's childhood friend fall in love with the Hero instead and never remmembering him at all from all the times loops they spent together as the current Weiss decided to do things differently.

He is fading away slowly but sometimes, the current Weiss can hear his faint in his head.

wow, that's crazy.

Spoiler

I dig the cruel irony of "switching" the relationships

 

[AMicrowave]

I wonder why only male thieves got killed but women's only tied up? I kinda hate these type of manga

those woman weren't the thieves, they were the kidnapped victims of the thieves

 

[Heavenstar]

wow, that's crazy.

Spoiler

I dig the cruel irony of "switching" the relationships

I know

Spoiler

And it's funny since if you put him side by side with the Current Weiss and the Protagonist Allen, you get 3 different kinds of Isekai Protagonists.

Current Weiss is a Shounen type MC who is optimistic, ready for fights and believes in his friends.

Allen the Protagonist is the typical Isekai Protagonist; Dumb, Dense to romance, Lucky Pervert but Good Natured and always ready to help others.

Original Weiss is the Edgy or Antisocial Isekai Protagonist who prefers to go Solo and refuses to get too close to others due to trauma like Hajime from Arifureta, Goblin Slayer and the MC from Lonely Attack in Another World.

 

[thrashinuva]

Well, you don't have a name like Lilith and not have an additional secret or two.

 

[AMicrowave]

Can we have a discussion without spoilers being thrown around like it's nothing? I swear, it happens in the comments of every single adaptation manga. Thanks for the update btw.

how bout you just don't click on the spoiler tags

 

[JosebaZilarte]

Please author, give us a convincing reasoning and worldbuilding. Else it would have made more sense for her to be just a maid.

Since the protagonist has enough knowledge to bring to his side a powerfully character from the late-game, it would be surprising for him not to be aware of the maid being an assassin. But... who knows? Maybe it is something a player can only discover in a specific route or is just part of the hidden lore. We'll see.

 

[Pen3]

I've posted this on the main page but I have read the novel and, here is a quick overview of things. (In my Opinion)

Spoiler: Overview

-This is school focused and most of the story is mostly MC competing with his classmates in school exams, tests and events(The exams themselves are based from tests and exams from shounen series like Naruto, One Piece and HunterxHunter).

-Despite the gags, this is a relatively serious story.

-Despite the premise, Weiss is actually not the "Main Villain" here(that title belongs to another student)

He is basically that one jobber in isekai academies that calls out to the Hero/Protagonists tells them they are unworthy of being here due to their low status/trash skill/incompetent etc then is btfo as a demonstration of the Hero/Protagonists skills and abilities.

Spoiler: The Good

-Weiss the MC is not a "pussy" or indecisive and knows what he wants and is not afraid to commit to attain it.


-He is also not(mostly) a dumbass and he always tries to plan things things out and knows if something is beyond knowledge or strength, he is not afraid to ask advice and help from his friends and teachers(hence the Shounen elements of Cooperation, Trust and the Power of Friendship).

-Unless the Light Novels cuts all of it, Weiss in the Web Novel also is not dense to romance.

Ex: there was one moment in the WN, where he was sleeping in his bed and when he woke up and saw the Heroine sleeping beside him wearing nothing but a sleeping gown and instead of screaming or acting all flustered, he started playing with her body and when she woke up they flirted for a bit then she french kissed him and they had sex. (Unfortunately, this scene wss edited out and replaced with a cliche event where MC sets up a Maid Cafe in school.)


-There are actual stakes in this story and costs if MC fails them. This is why there is a "Tragedy" tag in this series. (However, this will only be known much later).


-There is a good amount of learning during school especially since the main way MC gets stronger is learning skills and spells from his classmates and they in turn learn from him so this way everybody gets stronger.


-There are zero "Game Elements" in this world so there is No:
1.)Dungeons with monsters spawning out of nowhere. resetting bosses.

2.)Infinitely spawning chests or other materials and resources.

3.)Level Up system and getting skills by "leveling up"(so everybody in this world gets stronger by practice and training)

-Decent amount of Slife of Life when not fighting like MC and all his male and female friends going to the beach, drinking, cebrating winter festivities and going on adventures.

-MC is not overpowered. He is strong but most of his friends are nearly as strong as him and he is not even the strongest in schoo even later on(although this will not be apparent since at Volume 1, it does seem he really is OP).


-The main waifu is also the Heroine of the game and MC made her fall in love with her and made her his fiance so it's kind of Netori.


-This is a harem but the main waifu(The Heroine who was suppose to fall in love with the Protagonist/Hero) does not want a harem so she resists attempts so basically MC only has 2 girls and a bunch of girls who want to be part of the harem and this is still the case in later volumes and is one of the motivations for the Heroine to get stronger; to prevent harem from happening.


-The Hero is not a bad guy here and he becomes a friend and rival to MC in school although MC is too tsundere to admit it. The best eay to describe their relationship(At least beyond Volume 1) is basically Goku and Vegeta.

-There is a lot of character development for both the MC, the main characters and even minor characters and even lets them move the plot forwards so it does not feel like the story revolves around the MC.

Spoiler: The Bad

The story is a bit too fast at the beginning in particular Volume 1 since it has all these timeskips since the story is trying to get to the school ASAP. so you need to be patient for things to slow down and also there is barely any Build-up or development in this Volume, but there is a lot of setting up of the plot for future developments.

So it's best to treat Volume 1 as one long Prologue where you familiarize yourself with the characters(Especially Weiss and Allen since you need to read all of Volume 1 to fully understand their characters) and learn what their goals are.


-Volume 1 is also the weakest volume of the series since it has plotholes and inconsistencies which will not be addressed until Volume 2 and beyond. For example: Lilith the maid is actually still secretly suspicious of of Weiss sudden change in personality and is a recurring plot in later volumes.


-Another inconsistency(which IMO is the worst part of the story) is how Weiss seems to all of a sudden antagonize the Protagonist despite him saying he wants to avoid his doomed fate. Also what they were arguing over is the issue of slavery and Allen the Protagonist wants to abolish slavery and Weiss says while he is Anti-Slavery, he says just freeing everyone without providing anything for them in return is a bad idea and this sours their relationship for a bit until it resolves by the end of Volume 1.


-The Light Novel edited out a lot of good moments from the Web Novel so you will likely not see them in the manga.


-One of the things edited out of the Light Novel was MC and Main Waifu having a heart to heart to talk which led to them making out in public.


-Another thing they removed in the Light Novel was the s*x. In the Web Novel After he made the Heroine of the game his Main Waifu, they constantly had s*x even inside the school dormitory so it really did feel like he NTR'd the Game Protagonist.


-The Game Protagonist and Heroine keep getting partnered just like in the game world and because of this, they have a friendly relationship but not a romantic one but it still annoys MC so if you don't like the thought of MC having a potential love rival then this might not be the series for you.


-Not much worldbuilding since they are inside the school 90% of the time

Is Milk-sensei part of his harem?

 

[TheMode]

Yeah is Milk relevant after all the training?

 

[Pen3]

Yeah is Milk relevant after all the training?

theres always bed training.

 

[Aichan]

Milk sensei is so hot.

 

[nimo2]

how bout you just don't click on the spoiler tags

Right, how did I not think about that... /s
There's many comments openly discussing future events of the story which are NOT being contained within spoilers.

 

[Slingerman]

You don't mess with a Yandere.

 

[yoshiii]

Thanks!

 

[Daizeemi]

So Weiss unlocked Lilith's Yandere side, boy that means the og Lilith could've killed him if she wants to

 

[haruru1997]

so.... is the maid just kinky?. or??