Teihen Ossan, Cheat Kokusei de Isekai Rakuraku Life - Ch. 7.1 - Goblins

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well, this series hasn't really been too heavy handed in any fanservice (he blushed at one of the receptionist but other than that i don't think there'll be a love interest, tho other than the noble lady or another reincarnator i don't know if he'd get that 'close' with anyone to let ppl know his secret skill lol)

This might be a hot take, but I actually prefer if this series stays that way: not too heavy-handed in the fanservice (if I wanted sexual titillation in manga form, I have other sources that cater to my own kinks and preferences), and likely no love interest.

If there ever would be a love interest for our MC, I prefer that it be handled in a natural way: no harem, no slaves turned lovers, but rather, more like how an old man like our MC would handle romance if he were to exist IRL.
 
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This might be a hot take, but I actually prefer if this series stays that way: not too heavy-handed in the fanservice (if I wanted sexual titillation in manga form, I have other sources that cater to my own kinks and preferences), and likely no love interest.

If there ever would be a love interest for our MC, I prefer that it be handled in a natural way: no harem, no slaves turned lovers, but rather, more like how an old man like our MC would handle romance if he were to exist IRL.
Yeah agreed if something fanservicey were to happen I’d expect it to happen before chapter 4 so ppl know what to expect/what they’re getting into, not sure if it’d make some ppl stop bc I'm sure there are charas with “sensual” designs that does have a serious /deeper story

But yeah as an old man” it’d be nice if his potential partner was the same age if not older (not counting the 300+ year old noble lady) tho at the very least he’ll probably make true friends versus just business partners

Or if he even ended up with a male partner but I don’t think manga really ever do that without it being intended to be bl to begin with/too many ppl would complain versus a female mc getting a gf (tho I can’t think of many that combine the Isekai and bl genre (the last new one I saw with that was more of an anthology series/collection of one shots) but that kinda fantasy stuff probably happens more for Korean webtoons versus villainess subgenre + yuri but that’s a diff convo)
 
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Actually went through a lot of the web novel between this and the last chapter. For a bit, I hated the mc. He's kinda a manifestation of everything that makes an isekai harem mc shit, turned up to 11 in that version. Only felt better about him after reading the web novel for From goblin to goblin god. Don't know why that author thought a revenge story about a human reincarnated into a goblin against adventurers who killed him would make sense when his initial reaction to his reincarnation was to look around, see women being raped by goblins, acknowledge that they are being raped and that's bad, and then say 'well might as well enjoy it too. Even has a goblin slayer expy later as an antagonist.

Well, anyway, that made be feel better about this guy, because it could be so much worse, but I still hope the editor ironed out some of his worse traits. He took some of the common tropes to the point of being offensive or parody.
a small example:
He gets into a conflict with the guild when he tries to sell magic stones. They think he's trafficking for banned adventurers. This is treated like a big offense to him. However, the problem was that, because he wanted to hide his abilities, he never reports his accomplishments. He wanted the respect and profit from his accomplishments but refused to ever tell anyone about them to hide his abilities.

a bigger example was an entire arc (lots of spoilers):
it comes after his three wives(the little robed girls) are sealed in the game and he needs to do a quest to get them out. He wanders and fucks around on a job where he's escorting someone to investigate why the elf country disappeared (he knows the reason why, he was there). Also I DO mean 'fucks around' as he intentionally impregnates 6 or so different women and then leaves them and the child. He finds what he's looking for as a prize for a tournament. HE tries to buy it off of the likely winners, a friendly spearman and the queen of that country in disguise, and they refuse, being warrior types who respect challenges and those who overcome them. The spearman also wants to propose to the queen, whom he sees through the disguise, after their match and tells mc this. Mc also sees that an elf knight woman who caused problems when he country disappeared and recognizes that she's plotting something dangerous in the tournament. However, he openly states that he'll ignore it because he just doesn't want to bother with her anymore. So mc and the elf woman join the tournament and the elf woman turns into some Akira style amalgamation of flesh during her fight, which mc, the queen, and the spearman have to team up to fight cuz mc is still not going all out. The elf woman also starts taking cues from the thing in Still Wakes the Deep and starts shooting out tendrils to catch the fleeing audience and absorb them to restore her biomass. Eventually, mc decides to just kill her and it ends. He then states (I kid you fucking not) that though he needs to rescue his trapped wives, he must weight that against the moral imperative of remaining humble and maintaining a low profile. He gets the prize anyway, even though the tournament was suspended, and the queen says to impregnate her with his strong seed, much to the spearman's horror, and then does so before he leaves with some legend about how he occasionally shows up when his descendants are in trouble but that's it.

Sorry, it's just that it was so bad but so enlightening that I needed to talk about it somewhere. I consider Issei from Highschool DxD to be a good but rare example of a good harem protagonist. On the otherhand, in the web novel, this mc was a concentration of all the things that make for a bad harem protagonist, so much so that you could clearly define what makes it bad with clarity. The essence is that he's selfish, demanding everything from everyone but unwilling to inconvenience himself with even just attention, let alone actual effort, for anyone else. The previous generation of light novel protagonist, before narou, would risk life and limb for a new girl every volume. Issei would do that for pretty much anyone he cared about, potential harem member or not, fighting to help his male friends with their problems or romances. However, now we see harem protagonist who are just a manifestation of wanting love and devotion from others while not being capable of giving love and devotion in return. I so hope that the editor curbed some of this, atleast don't have him explicitly say such stupid things.
 
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But yeah as an old man” it’d be nice if his potential partner was the same age if not older (not counting the 300+ year old noble lady) tho at the very least he’ll probably make true friends versus just business partners

Or if he even ended up with a male partner but I don’t think manga really ever do that without it being intended to be bl to begin with/too many ppl would complain versus a female mc getting a gf (tho I can’t think of many that combine the Isekai and bl genre (the last new one I saw with that was more of an anthology series/collection of one shots) but that kinda fantasy stuff probably happens more for Korean webtoons versus villainess subgenre + yuri but that’s a diff convo)

I really doubt he'd end up with a male partner. If he did, this manga wouldn't be in this site, lol! The most I can hope for is a nice mature relationship with someone. Heck, I'm okay with him ending up with the three-century old noble lady.

Unfortunately....

For a bit, I hated the mc. He's kinda a manifestation of everything that makes an isekai harem mc shit, turned up to 11 in that version.

...

but I still hope the editor ironed out some of his worse traits. He took some of the common tropes to the point of being offensive or parody.

Sorry, it's just that it was so bad but so enlightening that I needed to talk about it somewhere. ... However, now we see harem protagonist who are just a manifestation of wanting love and devotion from others while not being capable of giving love and devotion in return. I so hope that the editor curbed some of this, atleast don't have him explicitly say such stupid things.

I did not quote the spoilers. I hope you don't mind. However, reading them made my heart sink at how low this manga could drop down to.

I don't mind a flawed MC. An immature one despite his age? That's fine! Someone who doesn't know how to value the people around them? Sure! However, I am expecting the author to do something with it. Why is the MC this way, is there a deeper reason or is the MC just a shit person? How will the people around the MC will react? Are they okay with the MC being that way? Why? Even better if the author shows the MC changing as they realize how they've been acting, how their actions are affecting the people around them, how they're worse-off because of how their own actions. Heck, I think it's fine for the MC‌ to fail to change for the better, afterall a lot of people do. But just do something with it!

Anyways, I'm now considering if I should just drop the manga now, or wait to see what happens with those girls and the MC, or at least just finish the current arc. I'm in it for the MC, a middle-aged MC belatedly discovering what they're good at is what hooked me to this manga. However, it's not enough for me to be interested what seems to be yet another isekai MC with the usual tropes.
 
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I really doubt he'd end up with a male partner. If he did, this manga wouldn't be in this site, lol! The most I can hope for is a nice mature relationship with someone. Heck, I'm okay with him ending up with the three-century old noble lady.

Unfortunately....



I did not quote the spoilers. I hope you don't mind. However, reading them made my heart sink at how low this manga could drop down to.

I don't mind a flawed MC. An immature one despite his age? That's fine! Someone who doesn't know how to value the people around them? Sure! However, I am expecting the author to do something with it. Why is the MC this way, is there a deeper reason or is the MC just a shit person? How will the people around the MC will react? Are they okay with the MC being that way? Why? Even better if the author shows the MC changing as they realize how they've been acting, how their actions are affecting the people around them, how they're worse-off because of how their own actions. Heck, I think it's fine for the MC‌ to fail to change for the better, afterall a lot of people do. But just do something with it!

Anyways, I'm now considering if I should just drop the manga now, or wait to see what happens with those girls and the MC, or at least just finish the current arc. I'm in it for the MC, a middle-aged MC belatedly discovering what they're good at is what hooked me to this manga. However, it's not enough for me to be interested what seems to be yet another isekai MC with the usual tropes.
I did mean to make the comparison between this and From Goblin to Goblin God. In the webtoon for that story, the mc's personality was completely reworked and the story was better for it. If, when the light novel was picked up for publishing, someone pointed out how bad the mc is, it wouldn't take much to rework them into a good mc. The story has potential to be good if the mc is just a little less selfish. I honestly though the first spoiler was a good plot point, since the mc was getting into trouble for mindlessly following that trope. It's just that he fails to learn that he's at fault. If he could just acknowledge his faults and not try to reframe them as virtues amid the massacre they caused, treat people earnestly and respectfully, and reserve his dick for his actual wives, then he would be a good mc. That's an IF though. Even the thing about his wives is a pretty interesting plot point. Faumaeri's dad, an isekaied japanese dude, rightfully thought that a strong and healthy citizenry makes for a strong defensible country and focused on agricultural and culinary revolutions. This allows the humans to grow to sizes we're familiar with. The elves, on the other hand, have their food limited to what they get from the world tree, mostly fruits with some vegetables and in limited amounts. So, they are smaller even as adults. So, it can be interesting if they just changed the mc.
 
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Thanks! LOL i'd have expected goblins to be weaker/low-level in this world compared to goblin slayer, or maybe only a step above 'slimes' as an opponent (tho i guess more strength in numbers/as a group, tho surprised not to see his 'daywalker' ability kick in but i would not be keen to drink a goblin's blood, even if you don't consider the adventurers watching/reacting to him doing that [unless that happens in the second half of the upcoming chapter])

Interesting to see stitch marks, i wonder if that's 'cheaper' than a prosthetic tho surely magic would help a bit
The stitch marks are probably to show the limits of his money at the time, he was able to get the money together in time to get them reattached, but just.
 
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I really doubt he'd end up with a male partner. If he did, this manga wouldn't be in this site, lol! The most I can hope for is a nice mature relationship with someone. Heck, I'm okay with him ending up with the three-century old noble lady.
LOL yeah there is still yaoi on this site with actual story versus fanservice but i think it'd rarely end up with "oh i'm gay" as something that just pops up (other than for fem mcs b/c ppl find yuri more appealing)

But i can imagine him dedicating his life between balancing a handful of adventuring/combat and then farming potions/crops to sell. (I don't mind him being older but if it were me i'd prolly want some kinda youth potion, even if it doesn't make me like a teen again or so, although while it's been a while since he talked to "Wizard" i'm surprised that it wouldn't be a plot point like "Are you ok, you seem like a diff person" or so [cliche, but i'd still expect a plot point of "Wow, you're actually good at fighting now, must be nice to have working limbs" and bitterness])

The stitch marks are probably to show the limits of his money at the time, he was able to get the money together in time to get them reattached, but just.
considering stuff like fingers and the middle of combat (tho surprised as an archer he got close enough in that situation to begin with unless it was an underground cave or so, but explains why he decided to just camp in the tree above instead of joining MC's side lol)
 
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LOL yeah there is still yaoi on this site with actual story versus fanservice but i think it'd rarely end up with "oh i'm gay" as something that just pops up (other than for fem mcs b/c ppl find yuri more appealing)

But i can imagine him dedicating his life between balancing a handful of adventuring/combat and then farming potions/crops to sell. (I don't mind him being older but if it were me i'd prolly want some kinda youth potion, even if it doesn't make me like a teen again or so, although while it's been a while since he talked to "Wizard" i'm surprised that it wouldn't be a plot point like "Are you ok, you seem like a diff person" or so [cliche, but i'd still expect a plot point of "Wow, you're actually good at fighting now, must be nice to have working limbs" and bitterness])

RE: Yaoi on this site
Yeah, I don't really expect something like that here. It just doesn't strike me as something the average reader of this site would want to be here in the first place.


RE: MC
I am actually on the opposite end. I would prefer if the MC‌ stays his age.

Like, I've read another manga here about a grandpa who got isekai'ed. He did get younger by a couple of decades, but as he died "IRL" at around 80y/o (protecting his grandson, who was supposed to be the one isekai'ed), that just makes him 60 y/o—still way too old compared to the average isekai MC. That also means, as a bonus, or at least as far as I've read, no romance and no harem. The story just revolved around the grandpa, the "unique way" he resolves the problems that come his way, and how he just wants nothing but a relaxed life roaming around the other world.


RE: MC's interaction with Wizard and vice versa
I am actually expecting the author to do something about their past together.

Perhaps the MC‌ has been suffering from an inferiority complex seeing Wizard and the others leave him behind (this has already been hinted, but the MC quickly brushed it off), and then have complicated feelings upon seeing Wizard after all these years (a mixture of pity, fear, and perhaps smugness). On Wizard's end, I see him more as a "normal adventurer" who has somehow accepted the card he's been dealt with. Thus, while the MC might have all these complicated feelings (shoved aside, perhaps), Wizard is like "hey, glad to see you! don't mind the peg leg, long story...." (w/c is kinda what happened in the previous installment) which makes Wizard's nonchalance a foil to MC's insecurity.

That previous paragraph just read like OssanXWizard, but lol, no!! I was just thinking it'd be a good thing to have Wizard as a foil to the MC. Right now, the archer from Windcutter is playing a similar role, but with him playing more of a sempai rather than an outright foil to the MC's naivete and insecurity.
 
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I did mean to make the comparison between this and From Goblin to Goblin God. In the webtoon for that story, the mc's personality was completely reworked and the story was better for it. If, when the light novel was picked up for publishing, someone pointed out how bad the mc is, it wouldn't take much to rework them into a good mc. The story has potential to be good if the mc is just a little less selfish. I honestly though the first spoiler was a good plot point, since the mc was getting into trouble for mindlessly following that trope. It's just that he fails to learn that he's at fault. If he could just acknowledge his faults and not try to reframe them as virtues amid the massacre they caused, treat people earnestly and respectfully, and reserve his dick for his actual wives, then he would be a good mc. That's an IF though. Even the thing about his wives is a pretty interesting plot point. Faumaeri's dad, an isekaied japanese dude, rightfully thought that a strong and healthy citizenry makes for a strong defensible country and focused on agricultural and culinary revolutions. This allows the humans to grow to sizes we're familiar with. The elves, on the other hand, have their food limited to what they get from the world tree, mostly fruits with some vegetables and in limited amounts. So, they are smaller even as adults. So, it can be interesting if they just changed the mc.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the head's up. I'll probably just see where this goes then.
 
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I guess he thinks that skill he received is just for show? Stories need to develop in a logical manner😅.
 
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(yeah i imagine all the yaoi is mostly read by female readers as opposed to yuri, tho any series that straight guys would read are more likely the comedy crossdressing series, trans stories aside but that's a whole nother can of worms lol)

RE: MC's interaction with Wizard and vice versa
I am actually expecting the author to do something about their past together.

Perhaps the MC‌ has been suffering from an inferiority complex seeing Wizard and the others leave him behind (this has already been hinted, but the MC quickly brushed it off), and then have complicated feelings upon seeing Wizard after all these years (a mixture of pity, fear, and perhaps smugness). On Wizard's end, I see him more as a "normal adventurer" who has somehow accepted the card he's been dealt with. Thus, while the MC might have all these complicated feelings (shoved aside, perhaps), Wizard is like "hey, glad to see you! don't mind the peg leg, long story...." (w/c is kinda what happened in the previous installment) which makes Wizard's nonchalance a foil to MC's insecurity.

That previous paragraph just read like OssanXWizard, but lol, no!! I was just thinking it'd be a good thing to have Wizard as a foil to the MC. Right now, the archer from Windcutter is playing a similar role, but with him playing more of a sempai rather than an outright foil to the MC's naivete and insecurity.
well like others said, he's prolly helping out the 'wanted bandit' but maybe it'll come to a conflict where he has to choose between full on committing to a criminal versus "MC was able to turn his life around despite his age (i mean i guess they'd be around the same age but i imagine MC wasn't 'active' til he took over the original body), so i'll do the right thing" even if he has to 'betray' their other friend or so

Tho i think the wanted poster was "Dead or Alive" so maybe he'll end up dead and they'll all end up splitting the reward

(also re-reading chapter 6, MC calls the archer a 'he' when they were talking about the stitched fingers, unless that was a translator choice and them not telling us whether it was more clear/ambiguous in the og text)
 
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