Tenohira Kaitaku Mura de Isekai Kenkokuki ~Fueteku Yome-tachi to Nonbiri Mujintou Life~ - Vol. 10 Ch. 57

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Well, a past with far more advanced science and magic explains the magical automatons.

It's quite insane what those terrorists managed to do.

Let's hope for this poor man that the "witch" is related to him and he won't be completely alone.
 
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They literally have the source of all the Farley church's blessings on their island, who happens to be a dude who would HATE the church once they told him what's happened. They have such a massive upper hand in any negotiation with the church that it's laughable.
The problem is its not really a upper hand. They are a small group vs pretty much the entire world. It doesn't matter what they know if they have no one to tell, none willing to learn. It doesn't matter what they have if they can't keep hold of it, the church has more blessed, has shear numbers. The church controls information of the world, and has the military might to do what they want. And worse its in a isolated island. They can spin this however they want. Worst case the source of the blessings gets killed, they claim it was heretics who caused the problem. And use it to justify strengthening their rule.

Basically they have info and they have something the church wants, but they lack options or ways to use it. His power is not convenient. He sees to have little to no control of it.

The key here is how is he a trump card vs this witch, who and what is the witch. Because a person who causes people to be born with powers is not a great trump card in a short time. Ether the church didn't know what his power is anymore, just that its important. Or there is more to his power.
 
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I like how the panel borders got all wonky to show the impact of that magical energy thingy.


Yeah. A bit surprising that no one went for the classic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and offered to ally themselves with the witch.
They don't know enough. It could be a entity that is just pure destruction or malice. They have to plan to confront and fight in case they need to. When she shows up if they are prepared for a fight and she is not hostile they can just talk, if they only are ready to talk and she is hostile they are screwed.
 
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When this dude finds out the true time passage, he's going to lose it. I totally get why they're treading carefully on when to reveal it to that guy.

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meh I am guessing that the witch is his daughter and she should be able to help him calm down. It really depends on the timing of them meeting and him learning the truth.
 
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One question: Why are they in a weak position?

The church's trump card against the witch is Rukia because of her three blessings.
But the MC and his friends have the "Patriot Saint" a.k.a. the creator of those "gods" in their hands.
They could just threaten the church to kill him and therefore "erase" the "fods" and all "blessings" - including Rukia's.
So they can actually "erase" the church's trump card against the witch.

Furthermore the people on the island are people who were mostly banished there for having the mark of an unknown "god".
All "gods" created by the "Patriot Saint" are known, so those unknown are not created by him.
That means even if he dies, the people banished to the island would NOT lose their powers (except for Rosa).
So unlike the church they have nothing to fear from the "Patrot Saint's" death.

Of course, the MC does not intend to kill the "Patriot Saint" but that is something the church would not know.
And given the circumstances above they would very likely believe that the people on the island would really kill the "Patriot Saint" as it is only beneficial to them.
 
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One question: Why are they in a weak position?

The church's trump card against the witch is Rukia because of her three blessings.
But the MC and his friends have the "Patriot Saint" a.k.a. the creator of those "gods" in their hands.
They could just threaten the church to kill him and therefore "erase" the "fods" and all "blessings" - including Rukia's.
So they can actually "erase" the church's trump card against the witch.

Furthermore the people on the island are people who were mostly banished there for having the mark of an unknown "god".
All "gods" created by the "Patriot Saint" are known, so those unknown are not created by him.
That means even if he dies, the people banished to the island would NOT lose their powers (except for Rosa).
So unlike the church they have nothing to fear from the "Patrot Saint's" death.

Of course, the MC does not intend to kill the "Patriot Saint" but that is something the church would not know.
And given the circumstances above they would very likely believe that the people on the island would really kill the "Patriot Saint" as it is only beneficial to them.
Killing the guy means Rukia loses her value as a hostage since the church only wants her blessings. The church can use that to counter threaten Kai that, if he tries that, they will have his sister's life in retribution, and there's no winning from that situation. It's a too risky move for him to even consider.
 
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The witch is definitely not "evil" and the MC's group should instead prepare to negotiate with her
there might be a huge problem with this plan. the Witch has been sealed inside the tree for very long time.. and her rage must have built up alot. so i don't think she will in a calm state where she is rational. if that the father theory is true. she will be too furious to think clearly. so it is basically like to negotiate with a bomb.
 
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Witch is probably the dudes daughter whom stirred upon sencing her father after all this time.

Tht's my guess at least.
That will simplify the whole story better. But then Kai's nation will be the strongest in the world because of harboring a witch and a God
 
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They literally have the source of all the Farley church's blessings on their island, who happens to be a dude who would HATE the church once they told him what's happened. They have such a massive upper hand in any negotiation with the church that it's laughable.

One question: Why are they in a weak position?

The church's trump card against the witch is Rukia because of her three blessings.
But the MC and his friends have the "Patriot Saint" a.k.a. the creator of those "gods" in their hands.
They could just threaten the church to kill him and therefore "erase" the "fods" and all "blessings" - including Rukia's.
So they can actually "erase" the church's trump card against the witch.

Furthermore the people on the island are people who were mostly banished there for having the mark of an unknown "god".
All "gods" created by the "Patriot Saint" are known, so those unknown are not created by him.
That means even if he dies, the people banished to the island would NOT lose their powers (except for Rosa).
So unlike the church they have nothing to fear from the "Patrot Saint's" death.

Of course, the MC does not intend to kill the "Patriot Saint" but that is something the church would not know.
And given the circumstances above they would very likely believe that the people on the island would really kill the "Patriot Saint" as it is only beneficial to them.


They're in a weak position because they don't have enough cards to play. They have 4 people with Blessings, Abyss, The Great Hellfire Mage Cutie, Warriors-kun, and 3 mages. The Church knows about 0 of this. You can't threaten them without revealing your forces. And if you do that, they can plot against you.

So, what happens if he reveals himself to be alive, and opposing them? They bring his Foster Dad and ask him to Surrender or he dies. None of the forces he can bear are a match for a Nation State. You can't fight an army with your small ragtag rebel group.

Farley isn't a real card to be put into play. Why? Because they woke him up. The Church assumes Rosa is Dead. And if they sacrifice Rukia to Kill the Witch, they no longer have a Blessed One with the Time Power. Which means Farley is going to age naturally and die normally. Which means, assuming the 13 Gods are linked to Farley, they also expect the pantheon to Die. So his death, doesn't matter to them. I agree with other commenters, that the Witch is most likely his Daughter, so they woke him up, to mollify the daughter, so the "Divine Retribution" can kill them all. But, if Rukia was the only thing that mattered to kill the Witch, they wouldn't have bothered to wake him up.

And all that, depends on the Church actually knowing or telling people things. They've destroyed all the knowledge of Alamira and the other "dark gods". After 1000 years, a ton of knowledge could have been lost naturally. Do they know Farley's life is linked to his Pantheon, they might not know that. So that's another problem with attempting to use his life as a bargaining chip.

And we have to remember. The Church has already won, this is the future they created. They destroyed Science and the Magic Stabilization Devices. So there is an automatic more powerful class of people. Aside from the Blessed Ones, they are secretly helping the Slave Dealers and others with less than savory reputations to traffic and control Mages. And female Mages always have Magic Children. The Church probably have a hidden army of Mage Soldiers that they've been breeding/indoctrinating.
 

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