Tensei Shitara Ken deshita - Vol. 20 Ch. 97 - The Adventurers' Guild People

[dereth]

I'm not surprised but still disappointed about some of the comments on this chapter.

What can I say, stinky shit is stinky. I can't pretend otherwise.

nobody is telling you to put a poster of it on the wall

It's true nobody is making me say anything. I do it simply because I want to. For the love of the game.

who are you to dictate others what they can or cannot do with their own lives.

I see, never ever object to what other people do, ever. I'll keep that in mind if you ever get a broken bottle shoved up your ass.

It doesn't negatively impact anyone.

It does though. It promotes some of the worst degeneracy in existence AND makes me want to vomit. Good enough of a reason if you ask me.

 

[albirew]

Is this type a caricature in Japan?

yes.
like in one puch man
like in tensura
like in kuro no shokanshi
like in S-rank behemoth
somehow like the hard gay and cie guy on japanese TV 10ish years ago
etc.

 

[alexandergc]

tehee~ pero!

 

[morichiro]

Holy shit, tourists are shameless.

 

[Mivy]

Is it me or these nauseating characters are becoming more and more common? Always feels like the author is having a laugh at the expense of the readers.

Yeah i hate it it has become so much more common like its not funny at all

 

[limeylassen]

Holy shit, tourists are shameless.

What? Who are you talking about?

 

[dereth]

I wouldn't call the kid Yuri a disgusting thing

Cheeky.

 

[KuroeNekumi]

Ugh, I dislike these okama types in manga. Always over the top.
But at least now we know who Dias was. The guild master, eh.

My issue really is how much over the top they made her.

The butt wiggle felt excessive. Everything else felt perfectly "fine". Not really THAT overboard compared to most other people we've seen around with kinda "a lot"-personalities by comparison. But something about making the butt wiggle being that exaggerated while walking feels like it is more to force a laugh at the character than anything else.

Also, the codpiece in a harness-style.

 

[Anothis]

I see, never ever object to what other people do, ever. I'll keep that in mind if you ever get a broken bottle shoved up your ass.

It does though. It promotes some of the worst degeneracy in existence AND makes me want to vomit. Good enough of a reason if you ask me.

My guy Gender Dysphagia is an actual medically recognized problem. The causes aren't exactly understood but the feeling of being trapped in a meat suit that doesn't match with your mental self-image fucks people up sidewise. Them acting in accordance with their true selves is about the only thing that keeps them from suicide. The depression and suicide rate for trans people is staggering.

Additionally it's not degenerate behavior to act yourself. If Elva had the body her mind felt it needed I'm 100% sure you'd not be complaining for a moment. People are souls, not meat suits. Chill your jets.

 

[dereth]

My guy Gender Dysphagia is an actual medically recognized problem. The causes aren't exactly understood but the feeling of being trapped in a meat suit that doesn't match with your mental self-image fucks people up sidewise. Them acting in accordance with their true selves is about the only thing that keeps them from suicide. The depression and suicide rate for trans people is staggering.

Additionally it's not degenerate behavior to act yourself. If Elva had the body her mind felt it needed I'm 100% sure you'd not be complaining for a moment. People are souls, not meat suits. Chill your jets.

Babbling nonsense won't convince anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. Spare me your idiocy.

 

[KiraEllion]

Is this type a caricature in Japan?

Yes have you never seen puri puri from OPM or Ivankov from one piece.

My issue is i really wish the translators would stop putting ENGLISH slang terms into their translation if you say unc in casual conversation your gonna get blank stares frigging weeaboos.

Well I assume that the translators consciously chose to call Erza a she and her completely ruining the bit where Master asks if it's a woman or a man...you wouldn't ask if someone is a man or a woman after already having chosen to call them she and her...especially when Erza has a clear male physique...so I would guess at first they are using gender neutral pronouns to refer to Erza.


Now I don't throw shade at the okama trope, it's amusing in its own rights.

Just wondering if I am correct in my assumption or mistaken...I would like to see some raws of this.

Okama is a different thing even though Ivankov himself fits the trope Okama is essentially a crossdresser who is still obviously a man it's less of a statement then it sounds like and comes fro ma similar place as theater tropes and minstrel shows where all the women were played by men

Wish i could remember the actual name but im drawing a blank

The whiners can fuck off though this trope is nearly as old as japenese animation it's self you would know if you stopped being friggin tourests.

My guy Gender Dysphagia is an actual medically recognized problem. The causes aren't exactly understood but the feeling of being trapped in a meat suit that doesn't match with your mental self-image fucks people up sidewise. Them acting in accordance with their true selves is about the only thing that keeps them from suicide. The depression and suicide rate for trans people is staggering.

Additionally it's not degenerate behavior to act yourself. If Elva had the body her mind felt it needed I'm 100% sure you'd not be complaining for a moment. People are souls, not meat suits. Chill your jets.

Liek you. this is not gender dysphoria this is not transitioning take your bullshit narrative elsewhere and stop latching onto anything that vaguely resembles your shitty cause because you have to drag others into a topic no one cares about.

 

[Anothis]

Babbling nonsense won't convince anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. Spare me your idiocy.

"Babbling nonsense" ah I see I'm just dealing with an idiot bigot. Have fun in your small world you tiny tiny insecure man. I, and every other proper man, laugh at your dick shriveling into a black hole as your own lack of masculinity makes you lash out at others more comfortable with their true selves.

 

[commandodude]

Why the fuck does anime/manga keep making these kind of fugly ass campy drag queen characters? The stereotype is so old and offensive.

Can we just have some normal ass cross dressers for once? You know, guys who actually pass at least a little.

 

[Sennalove]

Fran is too young to be exposed to shit like this

 

[Me]

Is this type a caricature in Japan?

Yeah. It's a pretty old cliche.

 

[phil777]

Fran is too young to be exposed to shit like this

She's been exposed to EVIL humans and an evil (tentacled) demi-god, can't be worse than that.

 

[phil777]

Babbling nonsense won't convince anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. Spare me your idiocy.

Guess that excludes you.

 

[Oculunus]

It's true nobody is making me say anything. I do it simply because I want to. For the love of the game.

If you're discussing this "for the love of the game" and not out of genuine interest in the topic, then I'm probably wasting my breath replying, but here goes.

I see, never ever object to what other people do, ever. I'll keep that in mind if you ever get a broken bottle shoved up your ass.

You've got it wrong. When I say to not dictate others what they can or cannot do with their own lives, I mean don't do this regarding things that only affect the person themselves. To take your crude example, are you saying somebody else would be stabbing me with a broken bottle? Then yes, stop them from doing that, because they are infringing on another person's rights and freedoms, particularly my right to live. But someone dressing this way or another? That's not impacting anyone's rights. And no, there's no "right to not see gay people in public". Unless you can convince the majority of your nation to put that into law, there is no such thing. I mean, depending on where you live I guess, but even then morality and laws are 2 different things and in my opinion if there is such a law somewhere, that's a failure for humanity.

It does though. It promotes some of the worst degeneracy in existence AND makes me want to vomit. Good enough of a reason if you ask me.

Oh, some of the worst degeneracy in existence? Please tell with your own words which terrible degeneracy is being promoted here. A man dressing like a woman? Being bisexual? Changing your name? I guess you can make a case for masochism being a degeneracy, but I certainly wouldn't call it one of the worst, especially when there are people killing others for their own enjoyment. I hope you don't come out with pedophilia because it is plainly obvious to me that when they said she "likes every race, age and sex" they meant it in a way one likes puppies or flowers and not a sexual way. (which also makes that bisexuality more of a Master's assumption rather than a fact). So yeah, please say what exactly here is the worst.
As for it making you want to vomit, that sounds more like a 'you' problem. If I say trees make me want to vomit, should we cut down all the trees on the planet? Work on yourselves, maybe take some stomach pills.

 

[Zethuron]

Quite... the particular kind of people there, and it goes all the way to the top!

 

[arcosapphire]

Occasionally, threads like this remind me that my normal experience is something of a bubble filled with knowledgeable, understanding people. And then I get reminded that unfortunately the anime/manga community is just a normal cross-section of humanity, filled with plenty of horrible bigots. Alas, MD is quite light on moderation so nothing really stops it.