The Bugle Call: Song of War - Vol. 1 Ch. 3 - Marching

[MangaDex]

 

[DevBo]

Whaaaaaa? So the other Gerhart was a fake? Or clone?

 

[Sadrobot]

OMFG WHAAATT??? I’m kinda speechless, I didn’t see that coming…a twin maybe? That’s a rational explanation anyway 😂
If it’s a fake/clone it’d be hilarious cuz in the last chapter he asked himself to teach the kid music haha funny

 

[Kushikime]

That was a MEGA swerve

 

[undeed]

WHAAAT??

 

[Syanindita]

Just read it today... Finally another military manga

 

[Ncararc]

Another Gerhart

 

[maxiusagi]

this manga is really promising!

 

[xyzzy]

You guys are surprised that he looks like Gerhart meanwhile I'm surprised that that was a helmet and he didn't actually have a whistle for a head

 

[Sonaldo]

Whaaaaaa? So the other Gerhart was a fake? Or clone?

Going by manga logic, twins.

 

[Sonaldo]

Magneto? Looks like this is the first real test for them. Another Ramus. Also that twist. Holy shit this manga is great. Definitely getting an anime in the future.

 

[cgr]

Whaaaaaa? So the other Gerhart was a fake? Or clone?

not a fake, since his thoughts here clearly shows he doesn't know about ramus (horned people with powers): https://mangadex.org/chapter/17b54774-e3fd-46d4-a241-1f32af70f368/63

pope's current appearance is probably some kind of (ramus) ability - like shapeshifting/illusion (?)

 

[Sadrobot]

not a fake, since his thoughts here clearly shows he doesn't know about ramus (horned people with powers): https://mangadex.org/chapter/17b54774-e3fd-46d4-a241-1f32af70f368/63

pope's current appearance is probably some kind of (ramus) ability - like shapeshifting/illusion (?)

Hmm i don’t think so bcs there’s no reason for him to use Gerhart’s face. Plus, he spends most of the time hiding it. Doesn’t seem logical. thonk

 

[cgr]

Hmm i don’t think so bcs there’s no reason for him to use Gerhart’s face.

1. there might not be a reason: maybe he just liked the grizzled veteran look , or likes cycling through them
2. the reason might be how his ability works / limitations of his ability: like maybe he can only use the face of people who died recently, or maybe he can access memories of the person he has the face of and gerhard's military experience and familiarity with Ryuka is valuable.

Plus, he spends most of the time hiding it.

there are many possibilities for this:
1. religious reasons (like eunuchs always cover their faces in public)
2. the tall helmet is magical- it's already noted that the helmet being that tall is inconvenient
3. so he can have a fake stand-in for better protection against possible assassins
4. some of his subordinates / army might not know about his appearance / ability and Pople might not trust them with this info

Doesn’t seem logical. thonk

did you even read the link I provided? gerhard clearly has internal thoughts that pope wouldn't have so it's clearly not logical for gerhard to be 'fake'.

 

[Sadrobot]

Waow, you clearly felt picked for you to react like that, huh.

1. there might not be a reason: maybe he just liked the grizzled veteran look , or likes cycling through them

This argument is not worth making by the rule of the good old Tchekov’s gun. I don’t think this story would be so shallow. There simply MUST be a reason if it’s revealed like that as cliffhanger to another chapter.

2. the reason might be how his ability works / limitations of his ability: like maybe he can only use the face of people who died recently, or maybe he can access memories of the person he has the face of and gerhard's military experience and familiarity with Ryuka is valuable.

I thought of this before but

• honestly if he could, he would not choose a measly mercenary to get military knowledge.
• the country would be in a dire situation if its head of state didn’t have any military science to call their own.
• he was strategising way before knowing of the existence of Ryuka. Overfocusing on MC, makes it a poor story. Like worldbuilding, if everything happens too conveniently it’s not interesting.

there are many possibilities for this:
1. religious reasons (like eunuchs always cover their faces in public)
2. the tall helmet is magical- it's already noted that the helmet being that tall is inconvenient
3. so he can have a fake stand-in for better protection against possible assassins
4. some of his subordinates / army might not know about his appearance / ability and Pople might not trust them with this info

1. Well…ok.
2. …ok?
3. That one is interesting.
4. Definitely since he hides it? Idk seemed obvious to me.

did you even read the link I provided? gerhard clearly has internal thoughts that pope wouldn't have so it's clearly not logical for gerhard to be 'fake'.

Did you even read my 1st com? I leaned towards the twin explanation so idk why u argue abt it since we both agree on Gerdaddy not being a fake LMFAOOOO

 

[cgr]

Waow, you clearly felt picked for you to react like that, huh.

talking about yourself? I was just explaining that there are multiple possible reasons so your 'no reason' is very shortsighted

This argument is not worth making by the rule of the good old Tchekov’s gun. I don’t think this story would be so shallow. There simply MUST be a reason if it’s revealed like that as cliffhanger to another chapter.

us readers learning that he has an ability that may be shapeshifting/illusion is a reason - and works as chekhov's gun. Also, if Pope shapeshifts into someone else, like one of his subordinates, it could cause them to be confused.

• honestly if he could, he would not choose a measly mercenary to get military knowledge.
• the country would be in a dire situation if its head of state didn’t have any military science to call their own.

I repeat: 'military experience', not just 'knowledge', Pope probably knows a lot more overall, but Gerhart probably has experience with wars in other parts of the world - like mercenaries might travel a bit looking for work.

he was strategising way before knowing of the existence of Ryuka. Overfocusing on MC, makes it a poor story. Like worldbuilding, if everything happens too conveniently it’s not interesting.

not really overfocusing, adding Ryuka clearly broadened his strategies so learning more about a powerful new piece of his (who also isn't really loyal) is probably a good idea

Did you even read my 1st com. I leaned towards the twin explanation so idk why u argue abt it

You clearly didn't read my comment then, you were replying to my comment which stated 'not a fake'

also, your twin reasoning is pretty unlikely too since he has the same scar

1. Well…ok.
2. …ok?
3. That one is interesting.
4. Definitely since he hides it? Idk seemed obvious to me.

did you realize that this is basically the opposite of what you stated earlier? : ' there’s no reason for him to use Gerhart’s face, Plus, he spends most of the time hiding it.'

....I think I've explained myself clearly enough, no point debating with you who is backtracking himself.

 

[Sheila55]

Interesting read.. really digging into that art

 

[Sadrobot]

talking about yourself? I was just explaining that there are multiple possible reasons so your 'no reason' is very shortsighted


us readers learning that he has an ability that may be shapeshifting/illusion is a reason - and works as chekhov's gun. Also, if Pope shapeshifts into someone else, like one of his subordinates, it could cause them to be confused.

I repeat: 'military experience', not just 'knowledge', Pope probably knows a lot more overall, but Gerhart probably has experience with wars in other parts of the world - like mercenaries might travel a bit looking for work.

not really overfocusing, adding Ryuka clearly broadened his strategies so learning more about a powerful new piece of his (who also isn't really loyal) is probably a good idea


You clearly didn't read my comment then, you were replying to my comment which stated 'not a fake'

also, your twin reasoning is pretty unlikely too since he has the same scar


did you realize that this is basically the opposite of what you stated earlier? : ' there’s no reason for him to use Gerhart’s face, Plus, he spends most of the time hiding it.'

....I think I've explained myself clearly enough, no point debating with you who is backtracking himself.

Bro you actually don’t know how to read on top of having comprehension issues.
I’m the one wasting my time with you when u clearly don’t know what "the tchekov’s gun" rule us in a story. So wrong yet so loud.

 

[cgr]

Bro you actually don’t know how to read on top of having comprehension issues.

you're describing yourself again.

Also,

This argument is not worth making by the rule of the good old Tchekov’s gun.

I ignored your mispelling the first time

"the tchekov’s gun" rule us in a story.

but now I'm very skeptical if you actually know what it is when you misspell it twice : Chekhov's Gun https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChekhovsGun

 

[Sadrobot]

you're describing yourself again.

Also,

I ignored your mispelling the first time

but now I'm very skeptical if you actually know what it is when you misspell it twice : Chekhov's Gun https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChekhovsGun

It’s not a mispelling. Welcome to the world! Where ppl speak many languages! But ig someone as self-centered can’t comprehend the concept.
The point still stands, you don’t understand what it is. But anyway, I’m scared to catch your stupid, you think it’s contagious?!