The Clueless Transfer Student Is Assertive. - Vol. 3 Ch. 36

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He’s still being assertive when Nishimura is not around.
 
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@MacMeaties I just hope that she doesn't have to work to get those people to like her. They all hate her for no reason and continue bullying her just for fun. Many mangaka go the route of the victim helping the bullies which makes them warm up to the victim. But it should never be the victim's job to help the assholes.
 
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"Oh, so you love Nishimura, TOO, Kitagawa-kun?"
This boy's chad firepower is approaching Death Star level.
 
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Takada is just enlightening uneducated masses about how nice Nishimura actually is.
 
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I would love a glimpse into a timeskip scenario just to see the same thing. Kids being jerks is one thing, older teens still being that rotten is another.
 
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I mean, if you think about it, he's kinda gaslighting the bullies. Not saying it's a bad thing, per se.
 
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@redpandamaniacal Not really. He's just showing the lack of logic in their narrative. Then they trip over the contradiction.

Said otherwise, rather than seeing a kid <-> kid conversation, you're seeing a kid <-> adult conversation.

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try to get her attention and get told to fuck off

With the purpose for the readers to gloat over it? That's just stupid, find a better hobby. A person's happiness should come from their achievements and being comfortable in their own body, not the misfortune of others.
 
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@criver ??? You're projecting here dude, she doesn't need to think about them at all, that's what I'm saying. And what's with the "find a better hobby", fuck off.
 
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@criver

I mean, it's not clear that it's intentional, but he's acting as if they've said things that they didn't actually say. He's doing things like telling them that they like Nishimura when they don't (yet perhaps). Obviously though, their bullying is a bad thing, so I'm not saying what he's doing is wrong. He's not actually denouncing bullying, but acting as if it's not happening and doesn't exist, which is certainly throwing off and confusing the bullies like you've said. Throwing off and confusing being elements of gaslighting, although again, it's clearly for a good cause. That said, since it's unclear that there's intent on his part, I don't know if that means it qualifies or not. He is portrayed as rather positive an innocent, after all.
 
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she doesn't need to think about them at all

try to get her attention and get told to fuck off

Pick one. You can't not care and care at the same time.

@redpandamaniacal Just because he decides not to engage in the conversation as a child, but as an adult, doesn't mean that he's gaslighting them. He's just using their logic against them. It's clear that in the manga it's passed off as him being "innocent" because it is a manga - it's allowed to be unrealistic - after all this is the main gimmick of this manga. But if you look at the whole thing realistically (as in him knowing what he's doing), it's basically a child<->adult dynamic versus a child<->child dynamic. They expected the latter, since they are used to it, but instead they got the former, which they do not know how to deal with. The manga is basically about a child that acts like an adult when it is convenient while retaining the "innocence" of a child.

This ought to be helpful for understanding the context I am speaking in: https://youtu.be/nKNyFSLJy6o
 
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@criver

Cool video that you linked on parent/adult/child states, although I'm not sure how it's relevant. I mean, I do think that you're right in that he's not being insecure or anything like that, but nor is he directly reprimanding them like some sort of authority figure, but I don't see how that suggests in some way that he's not "gaslighting." (For example, there's "adult" responses that wouldn't necessarily involve contradicting or misinterpreting what they're saying that don't fall into the "parent" situation either.) Come to think of it though, I wonder if the bullies are actually in the "parent" state since they're behaving in an authoritative manner?

I mean, to be clear here, I'm not an expert or anything. Just felt his behavior in this manga comes off as kind of gaslighty to me, which I thought was funny since I don't normally associate that sort of thing with positive stuff.
 

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