The Dreaming Boy Is a Realist - Ch. 32 - A sense of liberation and then...

[Jackist]

God forbid a teenage girl not understanding her own feelings

Then she could say that she doesn’t understand her own feelings. Even that little amount of communication would change everything

 

[MiguelH224]

Wait, how would she get to the school?

That's Natsukawa's first name, he's saying that she's capable of fucking shit up herself

 

[daniel345]

You people can't be serious. THIS MANGA IS NOT MASAMUNEKUN'S REVENGE. HE DOESN'T HATE HER, AND SHE DOESNT HATE HIM. THEY BOTH LIKED EACH OTHER FROM THE BEGGINING BUT HE ACTED LIKE A CREEPY WEIRDO

Now that he's acting like a normal person she can finally understand her own feelings and realize that she likes him back, what a shocker

holy shit, yall talk shit about natsukawa but 100% of you would do the same exact same as her if you were in her shoes

I see your point and where you are comming from, I agree they don't hate each other nor should they, but in the context of the story and characters it does not hold up.

Consider your first point of them liking each other from the beginning, there is no evidence in story for this to make sence and when contrasting it with your second point of him acting like a creep weirdo from the begging how could she have fallen in love with such a person "from the begging"? If that where so, then she would have fallen in love with a creepy weird guy who harasses here constantly. And give a really bad message to the story of essentially "love bomb the person you like and harras them constantly and then go complete cold to make them realize thier love?" that is definetly not mutual love at least imo.

What seems to HAVE developed know is a state of attention dependency from her, and now her low self steam is preventing her from keep growing and is trying to remain attach to the mayor source of "validating" attention she had. On the other hand MC also does not have any good reason to be so in love with here, from a compelling story telling point, other than she having "goddess" like looks and presence and because she was nice to him once. It really makes much more sense from the perspective that he gives of here being like an idol.

I would also prefer for him to have a relation with character he has had more interaction and genuine moments of progression like the morals comitte president girl. The library part time job kouhai and the middle schol girl culd also be better but they also have not had any develpment from their side.

 

[mingyee]

Ummm, I don't mean to be THAT Guy, but is there a reason the chapter was double-posted?? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between them, but I'm lost. Someone want to explain this??

I think one page is placed differently between the two posts. This one, the later one, seems like the page is in the wrong place, though, because the pages don’t line up anymore into spreads in this copy. It’s page 10 in this copy, but page 5 in the other one. I could be wrong about which one is right, but that’s the difference between the two.

 

[PrivatePublic]

Well, at least Natsukawa is learning. Not very quickly or very much but it is at least a start. Here's hoping she doesn't give up on trying to get her feelings across.

Kaede on the other hand has learned absolutely nothing and would be doing more for her brother by staying the fuck out of his business than continuing to interfere and actively make things worse. Wish glasses bro from her harem would speak up and take the shovel away from her before she digs that cesspit any deeper.

 

[vickerfinal]

I see your point and where you are comming from, I agree they don't hate each other nor should they, but in the context of the story and characters it does not hold up.

Consider your first point of them liking each other from the beginning, there is no evidence in story for this to make sence and when contrasting it with your second point of him acting like a creep weirdo from the begging how could she have fallen in love with such a person "from the begging"? If that where so, then she would have fallen in love with a creepy weird guy who harasses here constantly. And give a really bad message to the story of essentially "love bomb the person you like and harras them constantly and then go complete cold to make them realize thier love?" that is definetly not mutual love at least imo.

What seems to HAVE developed know is a state of attention dependency from her, and now her low self steam is preventing her from keep growing and is trying to remain attach to the mayor source of "validating" attention she had. On the other hand MC also does not have any good reason to be so in love with here, from a compelling story telling point, other than she having "goddess" like looks and presence and because she was nice to him once. It really makes much more sense from the perspective that he gives of here being like an idol.

I would also prefer for him to have a relation with character he has had more interaction and genuine moments of progression like the morals comitte president girl. The library part time job kouhai and the middle schol girl culd also be better but they also have not had any develpment from their side.

Nah, she liked him from the start. But her, "excuse", was she had no time for love. Pretty shitty excuse for story telling, but she does. If it was just validation, she already get validation from everyone else, and even another guy going after her. She actually like the MC, but of course she is just a dumb ass teenager. Teenagers can be stupid with expressing themselves.

 

[betetta]

You people can't be serious. THIS MANGA IS NOT MASAMUNEKUN'S REVENGE. HE DOESN'T HATE HER, AND SHE DOESNT HATE HIM. THEY BOTH LIKED EACH OTHER FROM THE BEGGINING BUT HE ACTED LIKE A CREEPY WEIRDO

Now that he's acting like a normal person she can finally understand her own feelings and realize that she likes him back, what a shocker

holy shit, yall talk shit about natsukawa but 100% of you would do the same exact same as her if you were in her shoes

Dude... You're not supposed to make sense, you're disrupting the purity of the revenge this story is clearly based on, instead of the parallel growth (albeit slow) of two very immature teen main characters who in the end....

Spoiler: Spoilerrrrr

will end up together, duh... There are no routes or alternates, it's as clear as the copium fmc haters huff everytime they get near a keyboard

Also durr durr natsukawa bad, I hate tsundere, etc.

 

[betetta]

This series is amazing because of the amount of seething it causes, and because of the most insane reason too! (the fact that Mc loves fmc in a romantic comedy and... She loves him back!!? even if they are too immature to communicate properly with one being a stalker for years and the other having zero romantic experience due to family circumstances)

If copium was crypto, I would be rich by mining everything in the comment sections about this series. whether is the anime, manga, even the novels... All of it.

 

[Virtualplayer]

This series is amazing because of the amount of seething it causes, and because of the most insane reason too! (the fact that Mc loves fmc in a romantic comedy and... She loves him back!!? even if they are too immature to communicate properly with one being a stalker for years and the other having zero romantic experience due to family circumstances)

If copium was crypto, I would be rich by mining everything in the comment sections about this series. whether is the anime, manga, even the novels... All of it.

Nah bruh, there are other Shojo manga that are much much more polarizing than this.

Think about the bad mental gymnastics in Konbini, or the absolute sh1tsh0w that is the Dou ka Ore wo Houtte - I mean, just see how many crazies you get who feel they too are a Lone Wolf lol.

On a scale of 1-5 with 5 being absolute batsh1t insane, this one is a 2-3.

 

[betetta]

Nah bruh, there are other Shojo manga that are much much more polarizing than this.

Think about the bad mental gymnastics in Konbini, or the absolute sh1tsh0w that is the Dou ka Ore wo Houtte - I mean, just see how many crazies you get who feel they too are a Lone Wolf lol.

On a scale of 1-5 with 5 being absolute batsh1t insane, this one is a 2-3.

I see what you mean, but the polarizing factor here it's what's batshit insane... I mean, teens that act... Like teens. (basically not knowing how to say they like each other or being to clingy, going to the other extreme)

Omg how does she dare not reciprocate immediately his feelings? doesn't she know he's perfect and is suffering? Omg who does that girl thinks she is? A flawed human teen perhaps? Mc should pic any of the "one note" placeholder girls the author put just to advance the plot (except for Kei, Kei is awesome) and stay with them instead of the girl who clearly doesn't deserve him!!!!

 

[draxdeveloper]

Who are those girls in the first pages? Don't remember anything related to that
edit: it was explained a few pages later

 

[draxdeveloper]

I need just to add one thing.
Real human growth is really slow.
Yeah, I know we are used to see a lot of stories that a person does a 180 in less than 1 year. But even with therapy people can take years for change, I am talking about adult people.
What you expect from two teenagers in less than a year?

 

[draxdeveloper]

I see what you mean, but the polarizing factor here it's what's batshit insane... I mean, teens that act... Like teens. (basically not knowing how to say they like each other or being to clingy, going to the other extreme)

Omg how does she dare not reciprocate immediately his feelings? doesn't she know he's perfect and is suffering? Omg who does that girl thinks she is? A flawed human teen perhaps? Mc should pic any of the "one note" placeholder girls the author put just to advance the plot (except for Kei, Kei is awesome) and stay with them instead of the girl who clearly doesn't deserve him!!!!

How she dares to insta growth by herself like all humans do.
Meds and therapy, pffff, real humans don't need this, they just need a few chapters, I mean, weeks.

 

[rantau]

I see what you mean, but the polarizing factor here it's what's batshit insane... I mean, teens that act... Like teens. (basically not knowing how to say they like each other or being to clingy, going to the other extreme)

Omg how does she dare not reciprocate immediately his feelings? doesn't she know he's perfect and is suffering? Omg who does that girl thinks she is? A flawed human teen perhaps? Mc should pic any of the "one note" placeholder girls the author put just to advance the plot (except for Kei, Kei is awesome) and stay with them instead of the girl who clearly doesn't deserve him!!!!

"Teens acting like teens"

The girl rejected him from the start, the boy decided to keep her at a distance. Probably the most realistic thing he did despite still liking her.

Real life teens would stay away after getting rejected like that, rejection hurts like hell especially considering he chased the girl for a long time

You really think them being a teenager is a good enough excuse? Even after all this realization bullshit, she's still not saying sorry for all the hurtful things she said to him.

 

[Doutorfunga]

Nah bruh, there are other Shojo manga that are much much more polarizing than this.

Think about the bad mental gymnastics in Konbini, or the absolute sh1tsh0w that is the Dou ka Ore wo Houtte - I mean, just see how many crazies you get who feel they too are a Lone Wolf lol.

On a scale of 1-5 with 5 being absolute batsh1t insane, this one is a 2-3.

Normally I wouldn't mind you calling this manga plus two other Shonens "Shojos", but then you build a phrase with the terms "Kombini" and "shit show", but only call another work that. You have made a demonstrably wrong take and I'm afraid this needs to be taken into account by whoever reads it, cheers

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

I wouldn't say all girls, but the ones that first got close to him (sister, Natsukawa and Ashida) sure are a barrelful of shit. They fulfilled their purpose of leading the MC to be, well, what he is. Let them go.
Just have him romance Fuuka (middle school "college" girl) and slowly heal, at this point it would be more interesting!

Ps: do the novels have some development for the whole stupid "east-west" thing? I could not care less for this idiocy or for the shit brained older students and it is absolutely irrelevant to anyone not named Kaede -who should eat a harpoon to the chest anyways.

We get some teases in the eighth volume, but there are still way more questions than answers.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Then she could say that she doesn’t understand her own feelings. Even that little amount of communication would change everything

It's taken her forever just to realize this much. Her guilt over how this realization now informs all her past actions with Wataru leaves her just short of being able to communicate these feelings directly though she'll soon find herself unable to avoid letting them leak out.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

That's Natsukawa's first name, he's saying that she's capable of fucking shit up herself

I would kill for an all Aika-POV version of this franchise under the title "Aika Fucks Shit Up".

 

[Shiirooooooooo]

wow, I cant believe we all in 30+ chapter a.k.a 30 months a.k.a 2 and a half year only to see this girl still the same fucko from first chapter without any development.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

"Teens acting like teens"

The girl rejected him from the start, the boy decided to keep her at a distance. Probably the most realistic thing he did despite still liking her.

Real life teens would stay away after getting rejected like that, rejection hurts like hell especially considering he chased the girl for a long time

You really think them being a teenager is a good enough excuse? Even after all this realization bullshit, she's still not saying sorry for all the hurtful things she said to him.

She rejected his romantic advances, but never rejected his attention. That intermediate state of affairs kept him from feeling as hurt as he should have and kept his hopes up for two-plus long years.

As for that last bit...have patience. Lots of patience.