The Hero Trained by the Worst Demon King Is Unrivaled in the School of Returnees From Another World
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Ugh, it was good at the start but I had to drop because of the mc. He is such a wimp considering he lived through 30k years I can confirm it's bullshit when there was another manga where mc pressed a button and trained for 10000 years and the difference? He actually shows him having ptsd, forgetting the faces of his parents, forgetting what is the point. What's funny is that there's a 20k difference and somehow that was more realistic. In this one he just doesn't have it? Is he restarted or something? Ain't no way he acts like some adolescent young boy getting groomed by a busty woman. Like he literally is a simp not taking action just because he "doesn't want his mommy to get found out" even though he should be the strongest after training for 30k years 🤯. This is one of the trashiest isekai tropes I've seen a long time. And I'm an isekai/harem connoisseur and even I can tell it's ass. But gotta give respect to the art at least, it's phenomenal.
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just one of those bottom-barrel story, but somehow it got good artist, even nice looking demon queen. author just throwing whatever into story, without believable consequences and progression.
like seriously, 30k years??? with little to no char development for the MC, you would think he only spent 3 years at most with the Demon lord. adn apparently he cant just wreak havoc for some reason after he come out from the abandoned world. you would think he already achieved godhood
like seriously, 30k years??? with little to no char development for the MC, you would think he only spent 3 years at most with the Demon lord. adn apparently he cant just wreak havoc for some reason after he come out from the abandoned world. you would think he already achieved godhood
Making the 10,000+ year old have the maturity and personality of a middle school kid going through puberty wrecks the story. It makes it cliche, boring and cookie cutter. It ruins the well set up overpower character idea. He can't get what he wants through power, IE a normal and carefree life.
If the author wants to go with having the awkward kid, but tens of thousands of years to gain his nigh unmatched power that is fine, just give a reason for his personality reset. Luckily there is a perfect one that reinforces the actually given story. The Most powerful demonlord wants a normal life.
If the Main character intentionally reset his maturity and potentially some memories to that of a middle schooler just starting puberty that would work as an explanation. That is just the point of "normal" the demon lord wanted to start their new life from. It reinforces the "wanting to experience a new normal life" stated goal of the story and characters.
Maybe it is a dumb reason but it would make suspension of disbelief for the MC's maturity easier by giving a somewhat logical reason why he acts the way he does.
It sucks cause the rest of the set up is a solid enough twist. If you want an extremely OP MC give a goal or goals that can be simply achieved by their OP abilities. In this case, the Demonlord that was born to be strongest wants to have a life not built around being the strongest villain. That can't be directly or simply achieved by power.
That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime is one of the best examples of this idea executed well. The town and it's people can be hurt, Rimuru can barely be defeated in combat.
The Misfit of the Demon King Academy 1st season did it as well. Manga and originally story less so. Anos Voldigoad carries the story alongside the 2 sisters who near instantly(first episode and 4th episode) acknowledge his extreme power. Anos wants a world of peace and has near omnipotent powers but the story isn't about his power, just how he shapes the world around his will with comrades/love interests/bro-mance.
Eminence in the Shadow does the OP MC by having the main character be the embodiment of players in a table RPG game ruining the Dungeonmaster's story. Shadow comedicly and constantly ignores the story and NPCs of the DM. The twist is there is a serious story being told by all the other characters. Shadow is just Haruhi Suzumiya and effectly in a completely seperate reality from everyone else.
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If the author wants to go with having the awkward kid, but tens of thousands of years to gain his nigh unmatched power that is fine, just give a reason for his personality reset. Luckily there is a perfect one that reinforces the actually given story. The Most powerful demonlord wants a normal life.
If the Main character intentionally reset his maturity and potentially some memories to that of a middle schooler just starting puberty that would work as an explanation. That is just the point of "normal" the demon lord wanted to start their new life from. It reinforces the "wanting to experience a new normal life" stated goal of the story and characters.
Maybe it is a dumb reason but it would make suspension of disbelief for the MC's maturity easier by giving a somewhat logical reason why he acts the way he does.
It sucks cause the rest of the set up is a solid enough twist. If you want an extremely OP MC give a goal or goals that can be simply achieved by their OP abilities. In this case, the Demonlord that was born to be strongest wants to have a life not built around being the strongest villain. That can't be directly or simply achieved by power.
That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime is one of the best examples of this idea executed well. The town and it's people can be hurt, Rimuru can barely be defeated in combat.
The Misfit of the Demon King Academy 1st season did it as well. Manga and originally story less so. Anos Voldigoad carries the story alongside the 2 sisters who near instantly(first episode and 4th episode) acknowledge his extreme power. Anos wants a world of peace and has near omnipotent powers but the story isn't about his power, just how he shapes the world around his will with comrades/love interests/bro-mance.
Eminence in the Shadow does the OP MC by having the main character be the embodiment of players in a table RPG game ruining the Dungeonmaster's story. Shadow comedicly and constantly ignores the story and NPCs of the DM. The twist is there is a serious story being told by all the other characters. Shadow is just Haruhi Suzumiya and effectly in a completely seperate reality from everyone else.
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Okay, spoiler warning and such, but ehm...
First things first. 30.000, THIRTY! THOUSAND!! years and MC is STILL a freaking virgin that won't drink alcohol, just because he's a 'minor'?! 30 millenia of a pretty lady trying to tempt him and he does jack sh-...
Also, how the heck did they even get food and drinks in that wasteland? How did he not lose his sanity after a few centuries?
There are plenty more things to gripe over, but just now in Chapter 27, I haven't even finished the entire chapter yet, that's how surprised and annoyed I am, they are telling me they can just erase their memories and abilities and go back to living in normal society?!
WHAT?!
Then why the frick are the 'losers' not just doing that then? CLEARLY they are not wanted around the 'academy', so why endager yourself and subject yourself to the constant harrasment there?
Initially, I though the Hero academy would be a place to get the former heroes re-integrated into society or whatever, study up on the years they've missed on Earth, but instead, it's a sh@! hole, where heroes are pitched against each other, for no apparent reason, no care for loss of life, etc.
Why did I even come this far, only to realize the story was even more trash than I thought at first!?
Jeesh! At least it only goes up to ch.30 for now, so I might as well finish those last few chapters available, but I am going to drop this nonsense after that!
What a load of.... Ugh...
First things first. 30.000, THIRTY! THOUSAND!! years and MC is STILL a freaking virgin that won't drink alcohol, just because he's a 'minor'?! 30 millenia of a pretty lady trying to tempt him and he does jack sh-...
Also, how the heck did they even get food and drinks in that wasteland? How did he not lose his sanity after a few centuries?
There are plenty more things to gripe over, but just now in Chapter 27, I haven't even finished the entire chapter yet, that's how surprised and annoyed I am, they are telling me they can just erase their memories and abilities and go back to living in normal society?!
WHAT?!
Then why the frick are the 'losers' not just doing that then? CLEARLY they are not wanted around the 'academy', so why endager yourself and subject yourself to the constant harrasment there?
Initially, I though the Hero academy would be a place to get the former heroes re-integrated into society or whatever, study up on the years they've missed on Earth, but instead, it's a sh@! hole, where heroes are pitched against each other, for no apparent reason, no care for loss of life, etc.
Why did I even come this far, only to realize the story was even more trash than I thought at first!?
Jeesh! At least it only goes up to ch.30 for now, so I might as well finish those last few chapters available, but I am going to drop this nonsense after that!
What a load of.... Ugh...
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It's so bad that Mc is such a b** He's such a weak b** he still weak after being trained by the strongest demon I don't really know why but it's such a bad story art is good but the story bad f*** out her I really hate to story such a bad I will never read this s*** again
I have a guess on what’s going to happen the mc will save his friends from getting their memories erased but get hit instead and he won’t lose his memories cause they erase memories of people who were summoned by gods the mc wasn’t he was summoned by the demon lord
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Is this a joke 30k years and this Japanese man he didn't do anything only training no problems at all? So many issues with the years if it was 1000 or 500 I will be OK he has a virgin card or whatever but 30 k years passed and nothing happened sorry it's a drop for me I can't continue reading. It's like saying to the reader you bought my Manga I dropped on you a nice demon lord for you too see but hey if you want to continue buying my Manga turn off your brain cause the Mc is still virgin boy after 30k years
Alternate title:
"The Hero Trained by the Worst Demon King is a Japanese main character and he's therefore legally obligated to be a complete and total useless, spineless pussy who lets himself, innocent people and even his own companions be bullied, pushed around and straight up attacked because if he does anything about it, he would risk standing out and if there's one thing a Japanese main character can't do no matter what, it's stand out."
I seriously can't stand these dogshit stories, it's like they're written for the sole purpose of infuriating the reader until they eventually give up on reading it.
None of what the mc does makes sense, he pretends to be weak supposedly to protect the demon lord and live a normal life with her, because 30 thousand years of training isn't enough to protect her apparently, yet it's exactly because he acts like a completely helpless and spineless pussy that people keep targeting them. The people he's so obsessed with protecting are literally being harmed because of his cowardice and the so-capled normal life he wants to live is in shambles because people keep targeting him for showing weakness.
What the fuck is the point of these kinds of stories where the main character is just a worthless brick composed of all the traits that readers rightfully hate?
"The Hero Trained by the Worst Demon King is a Japanese main character and he's therefore legally obligated to be a complete and total useless, spineless pussy who lets himself, innocent people and even his own companions be bullied, pushed around and straight up attacked because if he does anything about it, he would risk standing out and if there's one thing a Japanese main character can't do no matter what, it's stand out."
I seriously can't stand these dogshit stories, it's like they're written for the sole purpose of infuriating the reader until they eventually give up on reading it.
None of what the mc does makes sense, he pretends to be weak supposedly to protect the demon lord and live a normal life with her, because 30 thousand years of training isn't enough to protect her apparently, yet it's exactly because he acts like a completely helpless and spineless pussy that people keep targeting them. The people he's so obsessed with protecting are literally being harmed because of his cowardice and the so-capled normal life he wants to live is in shambles because people keep targeting him for showing weakness.
What the fuck is the point of these kinds of stories where the main character is just a worthless brick composed of all the traits that readers rightfully hate?
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The amount of cringe packed just in the title is just... Astonishing...
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This is actually not bad.
Hear me out.
I’ve read a lot, like a lot. Over time, I avoided reading these types of works because it gets typical.
So in comparison, it’s relatively decent.
And I have a high standard when it comes to looking for a manga to read. Or maybe I’m just picky, who knows. My rule of thumb is to read works with above 8.3 ratings. (Not counting CN or KR or yuri/bl, these have high ratings with shit stories for some reason)
On the contrary of what another reader commented, the MC actually does protect his friends and has let his powers slipped in doing so. Idk why bruh was yapping contradictions. The MC was not a, “spineless coward.” Do people just ramble without understanding the meaning of what they said?
Anyways, just as someone has stated too, they could also simply add on some mechanics as if their mindset stays the same except for the experience.
Or explain that long living beings take more time to change, which is generally scientifically true. (I’m in favour of this if they want a quick fix.) This can easily excuse relatively stunted emotional development.
The relationship between the mc and his girl could have definitely been written better. Such as the fact that they could have definitely developed past awkward flustered moments with that much time.
However, this could easily be fixed if they made it explained that the current relationship is actually recent, considering the thousands of years of training before recently being sent to the current world.
Perhaps with a mix of the explainable slowed emotional development of a long living being.
Ngl, people may be put off by long living characters, “not acting their age,” but tbh it can ironically be argued for the same reason and justifiable. Long living being takes longer time to change.
Literally an easy explanation. I’m wondering if they ever thought of it.
Because of course, it’s the typical flustered teen virgin male character.
Hear me out.
I’ve read a lot, like a lot. Over time, I avoided reading these types of works because it gets typical.
So in comparison, it’s relatively decent.
And I have a high standard when it comes to looking for a manga to read. Or maybe I’m just picky, who knows. My rule of thumb is to read works with above 8.3 ratings. (Not counting CN or KR or yuri/bl, these have high ratings with shit stories for some reason)
On the contrary of what another reader commented, the MC actually does protect his friends and has let his powers slipped in doing so. Idk why bruh was yapping contradictions. The MC was not a, “spineless coward.” Do people just ramble without understanding the meaning of what they said?
Anyways, just as someone has stated too, they could also simply add on some mechanics as if their mindset stays the same except for the experience.
Or explain that long living beings take more time to change, which is generally scientifically true. (I’m in favour of this if they want a quick fix.) This can easily excuse relatively stunted emotional development.
The relationship between the mc and his girl could have definitely been written better. Such as the fact that they could have definitely developed past awkward flustered moments with that much time.
However, this could easily be fixed if they made it explained that the current relationship is actually recent, considering the thousands of years of training before recently being sent to the current world.
Perhaps with a mix of the explainable slowed emotional development of a long living being.
Ngl, people may be put off by long living characters, “not acting their age,” but tbh it can ironically be argued for the same reason and justifiable. Long living being takes longer time to change.
Literally an easy explanation. I’m wondering if they ever thought of it.
Because of course, it’s the typical flustered teen virgin male character.
Yeah, lots of "could"s and "if"s, you basically just guess a whole lot of nonsense and none of it changes what the author actually wrote, which is what we're actually scrutinizing. Also, some of your "explanations" don't even make any sense.
What's scientifically true about long living beings taking longer to change? The only long living beings that exist are some animals and trees. In the first place, we're talking about mental maturity and emotion, which you can't measure in any of the aforementioned beings, hence why the topic is about humans, which are not long living beings. The fact that the mc is a human and not a naturally long living being already makes your statement irrelevant.
Also, popping in at the very last second when things are at their utmost breaking point isn't protecting your friends. Letting your friends get severely hurt, brutally bullied and defeated by people with bad intentions isn't protecting them. Allowing them to be taken away to some unknown location and confined by people with evil schemes isn't protecting them.
Or is it all good as long as they're technically alive? What about in the recent chapter where one of them was held hostage so that the other was forced to swallow some drug made from the lives of other innocent people? I guess it's all okay since he'll "save" them eventually right?
But that's totally convenient since the author would never actually have one of the main characters die. But in a real scenario it doesn't work like that. In a real scenario the villain doesn't stall and wait for the mc to show up at the very last moment. In a real scenario all of the mc's friends would already be dead as he takes his sweet time over multiple chapters to find and rescue them.
Yes he is a complete and total spineless coward because after 30 thousand years of training with the strongest being that destroyed countless world, he most definitely has the power to prevent all of the bad things happening to his companions. But he refuses to because of reasons that don't even make sense and are completely contradictory to his goals.
He's so obsessed with living a "peaceful and quiet life" or whatever yet him acting like a pussy all the time is exactly what's attracting so much negative attention his way. He just randomly assumes, with zero basis, that him proving that he's strong will somehow cause everybody to realize that Felize is the demon lord and the whole world will riot as a result. Even though countless other students are allowed to be strong for seemingly no reason, even though they couldn't decipher her identity or even detect her nature as a demon lord as she's just waltzing around in the middle of their facility in cat form, even though they clearly have no way to actually confirm what goes on in the worlds that they all return from. There's literally not a single logical reason for him to be so weary yet he still acts like a useless brick at all times even though he has enough power to protect Felize even if she gets found out for some unexplainable reason.
Lastly, bragging about your standards is pretty cringe, especially if your "standards" mostly just amount to reading whatever is rated the highest. The fact that you even rate this trash story so well despite it's innumerable glaring flaws and plot holes is telling enough. There are plenty decent stories out there that aren't rated as high as some that are worse, you miss out on a lot when you only tend to try what the masses seem to enjoy, you sound like one of those people who think that Solo Leveling is the peak of the "Dungeons on Earth" genre when there are many better ones that came before and after it that just simply get a mainstream anime adaptation.
Anyway, all that to say that the mc is indeed a spineless, cowardly pussy of an individual, just like so many other Japanese main characters, and the story is dogshit for many reasons other than just that. I've seen many cases where an overpowered main character was allowed to be overpowered yet the story itself was still interesting and engaging enough so that things didn't become stale because of it. This whole "hide my powers no matter what" trope has long harshly fallen out of style for good reason and if the author can't make a compelling story with an overpowered mc without making use of this terrible and frustrating trope then that just speaks to their lack of ability, that and the aforementioned glaring plot holes and cliches.
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