The Kouhai who Went from Introvert to Influencer - Ch. 2

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I think it's more likely the numerous other works that DO choose to "pile on the tragedy" that precondition many of us to wait for the shoe to drop.
Very much this. Jim Butcher, the author of The Dresden Files, has said that he starts every book with "How can I make Harry suffer this time?"

In the first book, he gets a cute girlfriend; in the third book, she gets turned into a vampire and breaks up with him (he also goes against direct orders from basically everyone and starts a war against the Red Court that lasts eight books.

Book 5-6, girlfriend shows back up, they get drunk, and have sweaty, BDSM-lite sex. Lot of pain and trauma later, including finding out his best friend's daughter became a mind controlling witch and had to save her from execution, girlfriend calls him up in book 11 and starts the conversation with "they kidnapped our daughter", which is a great way to let someone know they have a kid.

Throughout the book, pretty much every facet of Harry's life is destroyed: his home is burned down, his car is blown up, he finds out a special brown-nosing asshole with a vendetta against him is now FBI and is keeping track of him, he gets paralyzed, makes a deal with the devil (well, Mab, the Winter Queen, but close enough), and kills his girlfriend to rescue their daughter (and, ya know, genocide the Red Court).

Epilogue comes and he's decided to go on a date with Karen Murphy, the cop who's been by his side since the beginning (not always enthusiastically, though) and with whom he's had metric fuckloads of sexual tension. Before that can happen, though, he gets murdered.

He doesn't stay dead, obviously, and comes back after a stint as a ghost where he finds out his protege (the aforementioned friend's daughter) has gone crazy out of guilt because he asked her to mindwipe him so he wouldn't remember putting out a hit on himself so he could welch on his deal with Mab.

Then his protege's father gets crippled, protege gets turned into the next Winter Queen (which fucks her mentality up even more).

After that, he gets forced to work with old enemies to rob Hades and Murphy gets crippled trying to stop them; they decide to say to hell with their different lifespans and give a relationship a serious shot.

The very next book, which got split into two and took 5-6 years to come out, Murphy gets shot in the throat by that brown-nosing asshole and dies and while Harry makes a solid attempt to choke the life out of the fucker, he's forced to spare him because reasons.

All that to say, I would be genuinely shocked if Harry gets anything resembling a happy ending because of Butcher's hard on for torturing him, so yeah, that's just one series that has conditioned me to expect the worst whenever something even mildly happy happens to the protagonist of a series.

Which is probably why I like Zyugoya's stuff, because they do get the happy ending, no matter how fucked up their backstory.
 
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Very much this. Jim Butcher, the author of The Dresden Files, has said that he starts every book with "How can I make Harry suffer this time?"

In the first book, he gets a cute girlfriend; in the third book, she gets turned into a vampire and breaks up with him (he also goes against direct orders from basically everyone and starts a war against the Red Court that lasts eight books.

Book 5-6, girlfriend shows back up, they get drunk, and have sweaty, BDSM-lite sex. Lot of pain and trauma later, including finding out his best friend's daughter became a mind controlling witch and had to save her from execution, girlfriend calls him up in book 11 and starts the conversation with "they kidnapped our daughter", which is a great way to let someone know they have a kid.

Throughout the book, pretty much every facet of Harry's life is destroyed: his home is burned down, his car is blown up, he finds out a special brown-nosing asshole with a vendetta against him is now FBI and is keeping track of him, he gets paralyzed, makes a deal with the devil (well, Mab, the Winter Queen, but close enough), and kills his girlfriend to rescue their daughter (and, ya know, genocide the Red Court).

Epilogue comes and he's decided to go on a date with Karen Murphy, the cop who's been by his side since the beginning (not always enthusiastically, though) and with whom he's had metric fuckloads of sexual tension. Before that can happen, though, he gets murdered.

He doesn't stay dead, obviously, and comes back after a stint as a ghost where he finds out his protege (the aforementioned friend's daughter) has gone crazy out of guilt because he asked her to mindwipe him so he wouldn't remember putting out a hit on himself so he could welch on his deal with Mab.

Then his protege's father gets crippled, protege gets turned into the next Winter Queen (which fucks her mentality up even more).

After that, he gets forced to work with old enemies to rob Hades and Murphy gets crippled trying to stop them; they decide to say to hell with their different lifespans and give a relationship a serious shot.

The very next book, which got split into two and took 5-6 years to come out, Murphy gets shot in the throat by that brown-nosing asshole and dies and while Harry makes a solid attempt to choke the life out of the fucker, he's forced to spare him because reasons.

All that to say, I would be genuinely shocked if Harry gets anything resembling a happy ending because of Butcher's hard on for torturing him, so yeah, that's just one series that has conditioned me to expect the worst whenever something even mildly happy happens to the protagonist of a series.

Which is probably why I like Zyugoya's stuff, because they do get the happy ending, no matter how fucked up their backstory.
I've read it... And it's a good example of what I'm talking about... Though in a much more "dramatic" work. Lol Honestly I wasn't blown away by it, but its acceptable "light reading".

Ironically, it does exactly what its designed to do, it's a "feel bad" storyline, so it's successful in that regard.
 
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Zyugoya... You don't always have to have them be so broken.

This is just my opinion, but the dark Backstories Zyugoya puts in their stories is always the low point for me. Like in "My Childhood friend is Broken", showing her being drugged and date raped left a bad taste I couldn't wash out.

But that's just one example out of a hundred, and I know it's Zyugoya's "Thing", everything always has this darkness and bleakness to it... but I still argue it's the weakest part at least for me, and I had to stop reading stuff like Demon Mother because it just feels unrelenting. I wasn't enjoying the happy moments because I always expected some horrible tragedy right around the corner.

Coming back to "My Childhood Friend is Broken", even at the very end of the series when they are married and have a baby, everyone in the comments is expecting either the dad or baby to die a horrible death and ruin everything. That expectation is not a good thing IMO.
Has any horrible thing ever happened in his stories in the present tense or is it all things that happened in the past?
 
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Coming back to "My Childhood Friend is Broken", even at the very end of the series when they are married and have a baby, everyone in the comments is expecting either the dad or baby to die a horrible death and ruin everything. That expectation is not a good thing IMO.

The people who expected that probably read to much Spider-Man.
 
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Very much this. Jim Butcher, the author of The Dresden Files, has said that he starts every book with "How can I make Harry suffer this time?"

In the first book, he gets a cute girlfriend; in the third book, she gets turned into a vampire and breaks up with him (he also goes against direct orders from basically everyone and starts a war against the Red Court that lasts eight books.

Book 5-6, girlfriend shows back up, they get drunk, and have sweaty, BDSM-lite sex. Lot of pain and trauma later, including finding out his best friend's daughter became a mind controlling witch and had to save her from execution, girlfriend calls him up in book 11 and starts the conversation with "they kidnapped our daughter", which is a great way to let someone know they have a kid.

Throughout the book, pretty much every facet of Harry's life is destroyed: his home is burned down, his car is blown up, he finds out a special brown-nosing asshole with a vendetta against him is now FBI and is keeping track of him, he gets paralyzed, makes a deal with the devil (well, Mab, the Winter Queen, but close enough), and kills his girlfriend to rescue their daughter (and, ya know, genocide the Red Court).

Epilogue comes and he's decided to go on a date with Karen Murphy, the cop who's been by his side since the beginning (not always enthusiastically, though) and with whom he's had metric fuckloads of sexual tension. Before that can happen, though, he gets murdered.

He doesn't stay dead, obviously, and comes back after a stint as a ghost where he finds out his protege (the aforementioned friend's daughter) has gone crazy out of guilt because he asked her to mindwipe him so he wouldn't remember putting out a hit on himself so he could welch on his deal with Mab.

Then his protege's father gets crippled, protege gets turned into the next Winter Queen (which fucks her mentality up even more).

After that, he gets forced to work with old enemies to rob Hades and Murphy gets crippled trying to stop them; they decide to say to hell with their different lifespans and give a relationship a serious shot.

The very next book, which got split into two and took 5-6 years to come out, Murphy gets shot in the throat by that brown-nosing asshole and dies and while Harry makes a solid attempt to choke the life out of the fucker, he's forced to spare him because reasons.

All that to say, I would be genuinely shocked if Harry gets anything resembling a happy ending because of Butcher's hard on for torturing him, so yeah, that's just one series that has conditioned me to expect the worst whenever something even mildly happy happens to the protagonist of a series.

Which is probably why I like Zyugoya's stuff, because they do get the happy ending, no matter how fucked up their backstory.
I appreciate the tag, but probably a bit too spoileriffic for future conver.. readers?

But yeah, Butcher's favorite hero is Spider-Man. 'nuff said.
 
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The people who expected that probably read to much Spider-Man.
Huh, should have scrolled up some, but I would say 'goya has a bit of that Peter Parker dawg in them. Which violently rips the characters apart most of the time.
 
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You'd think those jealous girls who hate her for being successful would snap a pic of the two together so they can try to stir up drama ("famous female influencer has secret bf" is the type of thing that riles up people in the internet after all)
Then again, if Zyugoya makes this a plot point later on, at least I called it...
 
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I'm still waiting for her LTG-type (or LTG-lite) rant.

I mean it was obvious she liked the guy but nice to see her say to herself that she's in love with him. Now the next challenge is to tell him that.
I think she did, actually...

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Eight.

This is just my opinion, but the dark Backstories Zyugoya puts in their stories is always the low point for me. Like in "My Childhood friend is Broken", showing her being drugged and date raped left a bad taste I couldn't wash out.
...I'm pretty sure he didn't show that, and nobody mentioned him posting anything like that in his Manga OnlyFans either.
 
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It's on them, not Zyugoya, though, given that he never does stuff like this.
Besides, I'm reasonably sure at least half of them were just concern trolling.
Yeah, this. I was fascinated by the people who vehemently predicted and expected NTR, even after the last chapter. Which is why I can't wait to see potential NTR theories on this, even though Zyugoya just doesn't do that.
 

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