The Main Heroines Are Trying to Kill Me

[Monn12]

It's time travel

And with that knowledge i could understand some reasoning behind his moves. The gamer degenerate thing is more about mentality of having a "perfect clear" with ultimate harem route.
Like i didn't know about time travel or parallel universe or if author even mentions about parallel universe for example if understand our physics correctly it's impossible to travel back in time while travel between dimensions (for example to a dimensions that looks like back in time) is till kinda un-explored theme. So this is quite crucial, if parallel world concept is used it's basically leaving that dimension to die off and restarting in a new one.
As for heroines....Well i also didn't know i suspected that if he used all his power he would save some of them while others died and in order to make the "perfect" clear he decided to follow through that plan.

I will even go a little further even if you travel back in time it doesn't negate anything you have done before. The suffering and pain still did happen and maybe after death they finally had peace so him travelling back is just his own need. It's a bit philosophical but who gave him an idea that putting people through the suffering again is better than death?
In any case, I'm clearly not the demographic for this, too old and bitter. For it's like i live and try to live to the fullest and when i die, i die no need for restarts for better conclusion of my life.

 

[Monn12]

All of the stuff you written gets explained later. This is why people should stop being so impatient, expecting everything to be spoonfed in the first 5 chapters or so of a story. To answer your question as to why Frey doesn't just pick the ordinary route and leave some people to die, it is because in every of those routes, the world ends up getting destroyed with almost everyone dying. Charging the heroes armament the normal way takes too long. He and the whole of humanity will need to fight a long and drawn out war against the most powerful being in the entire world who can potentially level an entire continent by just simply snapping her fingers.

It's not spoon feeding my friend, based on too many vague points i have TOO MANY conclusions and most of them are bad that directly impact my satisfaction reading this. And due to it being LN(WN) and manga i have no confidence in authors logic because of that media content is not on standard book level (i don't mean self-published books the are the same).
For example time travel or dimension travel are very crucial points to trash this manga or bear with a little while longer. One being just youthful maximalism while other being quite cruel and egotistical.

 

[PogChampClap]

It's not spoon feeding my friend, based on too many vague points i have TOO MANY conclusions and most of them are bad that directly impact my satisfaction reading this. And due to it being LN(WN) and manga i have no confidence in authors logic because of that media content is not on standard book level (i don't mean self-published books the are the same).
For example time travel or dimension travel are very crucial points to trash this manga or bear with a little while longer. One being just youthful maximalism while other being quite cruel and egotistical.

Every time a story starts out, people expect it to provide all the answers immediately instead of just having it told as it goes along. As I said before, the time travel part all gets explained later. I don't want to give in to much detail as it would spoil many other parts of the story but if you wondering whether this a multiverse like fate series where there is multiple parallels worlds all running simultaneously or a time travel with a single point, then its definitely the later.

As for your point about his actions in his previous timeline should not be excused. The mc himself knows that and even says he himself should not be forgiven. He told Kania that even if his actions were for some greater cause it still doesn't negate all the mental trauma he caused her and all the other heroines. It is one of the reasons why he is so hellbent on giving all of them a happy ending no matter what, even if at that end he would be dead.

 

[Lando833]

And with that knowledge i could understand some reasoning behind his moves. The gamer degenerate thing is more about mentality of having a "perfect clear" with ultimate harem route.
Like i didn't know about time travel or parallel universe or if author even mentions about parallel universe for example if understand our physics correctly it's impossible to travel back in time while travel between dimensions (for example to a dimensions that looks like back in time) is till kinda un-explored theme. So this is quite crucial, if parallel world concept is used it's basically leaving that dimension to die off and restarting in a new one.
As for heroines....Well i also didn't know i suspected that if he used all his power he would save some of them while others died and in order to make the "perfect" clear he decided to follow through that plan.

I will even go a little further even if you travel back in time it doesn't negate anything you have done before. The suffering and pain still did happen and maybe after death they finally had peace so him travelling back is just his own need. It's a bit philosophical but who gave him an idea that putting people through the suffering again is better than death?
In any case, I'm clearly not the demographic for this, too old and bitter. For it's like i live and try to live to the fullest and when i die, i die no need for restarts for better conclusion of my life.

Spoiler: Time Travel

There will be a time paradox later.

The novels really condensed it, I don't know how far into the webtoon you read, but in chapter 11

Spoiler: Chapter 11

Kania finds out the truth, and he does say that his actions shouldn't be forgiven, no matter the justification. It goes longer in the novel, thought it might have been on a different part where he repeats it, but he does believe his actions shouldn't be forgiven and the ends don't justify the means, the real evil in the previous timeline, the false evil in the current timeline, both cause real mental harm at the minimum.

Spoiler: The Prophecy, chapters 21+

Something really glossed over in this adaptation is that Frey is supposed to die at the end of all this. It's pointed out very specifically in the novels, but this is really just blink and you'll miss it in the adaptation, the end of the prophecy is "The player dies in the heroines arms, as they all realize what sacrifices he's made for them."

It's followed up by "You get one wish for defeating the Demon Lord, and you should wish for revival, no more, no less", but if you've gotten this far you'll notice along with Frey that the prophecy is actually pretty shaky and there's a bunch of points that aren't matching up correctly. Around this point in the novels, Frey has no doubts that he's going to die immediately after killing the Demon Lord, but he's growing doubtful that he's actually going to get revived after it all, but he'll still see it through to the end.

Honestly, I think the novels are fairly messily written, I was hoping the webtoon could polish things up and iron some inconsistencies out. Like the sentient magic ancestor record at the start, I thought that was a great addition. It would have been a good way to info dump the whole setting and clarify a bunch of important parts of the prophecy. Like even if "Magic" is real, can you really believe in a "System"? Just because magic is real, doesn't mean a video game system attached to bullshit is still there after getting isekai'd, but something important that hasn't been mentioned AT ALL in this webtoon from what I remember is that Frey believed it because his ancestor mentioned also needing to use a System to defeat the previous Demon Lord.

...But then they do nothing with the magic ancestor, they skipped the info dumps in the novels and you get the impression that Frey's doing this because his ancestor talked him into it instead of coming to the decision on his own.

 

[Mekanize94]

This is so bad that it’s almost unintentionally good.
The pacing is terrible, the plot has massive holes, and the illustrations chosen to accompany the narration are cringeworthy.
I found myself chuckling several times at the poor execution of the scenes, such as when the protagonist, in a tight spot, questions whether he will be able to win a difficult fight, only to defeat his opponent with a single blow in the next panel without breaking a sweat. Likely because the artist doesn't know how to draw action scenes.

Umm the story was good actually.. But manhwa adaption cuts a lot of things..

 

[Mekanize94]

This is fun actually. I like this. Haven't read the LN but I find this interesting.

You missed a lot of things.. Expecially the emotional part when they realize why he have to act that way..

 

[Mekanize94]

honestly might drop this
so far seems kinda meh
pacing is a mess and characters aren't well developed
i dont read LNs, but if i ever do start, ill try this one out since people in comments seem to actually rate the LN fairly good

Bro.. You really missed a good story

 

[Deus3nity]

Gods I normally tolerate at best these harem type stories.

Yet this one feels especially egregious because the Main Character quite literally killed everyone via betrayal ! With all the female leads remembering all the harm, and evil he both directly and indirectly assisted in committing!

You don't just "forgive" that sorta stuff within even a year's span or more! Let alone fall in love with said destroyer, and be open to a polygamy type relationship!

Its beyond simply being stupid or unrealistic. Its just shit writing with a shit plot.

This is a problem with the adaptation, which skips lots of scenes. The way it's written in the novels is so much better.

 

[Deus3nity]

I consider the main problem of the story to be its premise. I just cannot believe that our MC could massacre people in the amounts described, given the character presented in the manga or what you describe in the novel. Why does it not affect him? (Yes, depression isn't what I'm talking about here, because massacring so many people would leave a deep wound on anyone who isn't a sociopath. But the character presented to us in the manga, or as you described he is in the novel, seems like someone who hasn't lived through it, but rather played a game where they did it.)

I would say this premise for a character would work in one of two scenarios: either the character is a mad villain (like Nox), committing atrocities with the belief that their end goal will eventually undo it all, or the character is a reincarnator who did these things in their first life, but after being reincarnated, they went mad. After the time rewind, the original personality returns but still retains the memories of the reincarnator.

It did affect him in the novel.

He has nightmares and hallucinations every single day. He is always weak and full of incurable wounds, and has come to the verge of giving up.

The manwha did a really bad disservice to how much he suffers, down to removing him always coughing up blood.

 

[Deus3nity]

This is one of the most convoluted, dumbest shit iv ever seen for a premise in quite some time and around here, that is saying a lot. To save everyone you have to kill everyone, and after you go back to before you killed everyone, you need to continue being a complete cunt to them and if they find out your not actually a total bastard you'll.....lose points?
The hell are these arbitrary rules anyways? Just fuckin, feel like it so here you go good luck.

Flips table and storms off

He looses lifespan and his body deteriorates.

 

[Kamiya-Yui]

Bro.. You really missed a good story

if you mean the manhwa, did i really though?
cos according to the comments this adaptation is awful and doesn't do the original work any justice
if you mean not reading LN, then yeah im definitely missing out
but i just don't have the time or energy to start going into them rn

 

[MystiSpex]

A poor adaptation to say the least. The art style is visually appealing, but the story it shows is rushed and the tone took a 180. The original was this gritty, dark story about a selfless man sacrificing himself for the world, all the while knowing very well that his life is on a timer. The original focuses on his trials and how they affect his mental health, while failing to triumph over his heroic nature. Meanwhile, the adaptation has felt like the story focusing on comic relief in the moments that are supposed to be the darkest, causing them to lose their emotional impact. I want to make this clear for the studio making this adaptation (even though they will probably never see this) DO NOT MAKE ME FEEL GOOD WHILE READING THIS! This story is about the triumph of the human spirit, but it is a heavy one. It should stay that way.