The Soulless Duchess - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

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@criver though I agree the mc was very gullible, a fiance commits to the relationship. One thing to note is that the guy was arranged to marry the gullible mc with support from the family, but he did not even reject the arrangement making it look like he was in favor of the relationship like the mc was. He was cheating on her by an official relationship made ambiguous (no rejections or disapproval of engagement) while having another lover for some reason ,purposely hidden from the betrothed.

Though this is just our speculation on their relationship until further chapters elaborate it further. Who knows if they hugged or showed disapproval on the engagement
 
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but he did not even reject the arrangement making it look like he was in favor of the relationship like the mc was.
Actions speak louder than words. And as a matter of fact, all of his words were related to how he can use her powers to rack in achievements, there was no hint of romance, and he was clear about what he wanted from her from the get go. If anything she used that consciously to try and get closer to him. Calling this an actual relationship is pushing it. It was probably arranged with more political considerations in mind than anything else (specifically not romantic ones since he is gay). You can actually see this when they are talking about him getting her pregnant. Which leads me to another point:

while having another lover for some reason ,purposely hidden from the betrothed.

It is not for some arbitrary reason: he's the crowned prince, and as such will need to have a queen as well as an heir. Coming out as gay will be a big problem, so it is obvious why he's hiding it.

On the other hand, as much as an ambitious and incompetent egoist and blind to her plight he may have been, he was still planning to fulfill his duty - namely getting an heir from her, and not any other woman. He obviously had a large choice of women from more prestigious families after he became the crowned prince, but he still stuck with her rather than nullify the engagement (despite the negative perception of her that others had after the "experiment"). So in some way you can see this as him honouring their engagement.

Demanding his love in an arranged engagement is asking a bit too much, especially considering he's gay and he cannot do anything about it. Blaming him for that is also ridiculous. You can blame him for incompetence and lack of empathy, but not for who he loves. And calling this cheating is pushing it.

The only point I can see being made against that, is that she looks like her cousin. Which may explain why he wants a child from her beyond him just honouring the engagement. But you can use this to also argue the other way around. The source material just doesn't provide enough information, but what little it does, does not warrant the vitriol towards the baron while conveniently disregarding all of the MC's faults and contributions to her own demise. I think people in the comments are just too biased because they try to relate to the MC, rather than analyze the situation from a neutral perspective.

Anyways, I think that the guy is getting unwarranted hate for being gay and "cheating", while everyone disregards the blatant stupidity of our MC. She literally put herself in the situation because of her unhealthy obsession with the baron - and I wouldn't ever call this love. The only thing you can blame him for is his egoism, ambitions, incompetence, and lack of empathy (or maybe understanding). You can blame our MC for a lot more things than just these. The notable difference is that she bore the brunt of her and the baron's stupidity at the same time - which doesn't justify her any more than usual, she just made more stupid decisions and faced the consequences.
 
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Thank you for the update! Can’t wait to read more especially the revenge part!
 
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It is not for some arbitrary reason: he's the crowned prince, and as such will need to have a queen as well as an heir. Coming out as gay will be a big problem, so it is obvious why he's hiding it.
The relationship happened before being awarded the title of crown prince, and even as a duke they still hid it from the mc.
Demanding his love in an arranged engagement is asking a bit too much, especially considering he's gay and he cannot do anything about it. Blaming him for that is also ridiculous. You can blame him for incompetence and lack of empathy, but not for who he loves. And calling this cheating is pushing it.
My point was not about the mc needing the love but the guy has cheated on her. It is not just lack of empathy but exploitation.
Anyway, again is it not considered as cheating when they are already engaged or to be wed, an affair was hidden and still ongoing without the partner's knowledge? Arranged it may be but by having no romantic feelings to your partner does it mean that they can just have romantic or physical relations with others when the partner is unaware, is this still not considered cheating? (in a relationship others can be included and still not be cheating but it has to be an open relationship, the partner is aware and willing to share the guy to not be considered as cheating)

I hate the couple both as they are quite inhumane to a human being, especially when one is a dumb blood relative, betrayal after milking her use and even using the opportunity to use her death for a child to raise together despite an affair (probably to use the child as a way to stay close to the prince, not that weird to always be with the child and the king when you are a relative) so sick
 
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The relationship happened before being awarded the title of crown prince, and even as a duke they still hid it from the mc.
Actually at some point she mentioned that she brought them closer, so you can neither be sure nor does it change the essence of the problem. If anything his cousin and the baron got in a relationship thanks to her. Even as a baron he is still expected to produce an heir, being a crowned prince just solidifies this further. I don't think anyone will argue that it is reasonable for him to publicize the fact he is gay considering the time period and his social standing.

Anyway, again is it not considered as cheating when they are already engaged or to be wed, an affair was hidden and still ongoing without the partner's knowledge?
Not in the usual sense of the word, no. This is because their engagement is in name only, and there's no actual romantic relationship to speak of - he's not technically her "partner" in most senses of the word. It's like getting a boyfriend/girlfriend, then not doing any of the "activities" that come along with the territory, and believing that you are actually in a relationship. By all means this is not much more of a relationship than having one-sided feelings towards someone (and we have a good reason to believe her feelings are an unhealthy obsession with the baron, rather than love, as evidenced by her actions and them not engaging in any romantic activities).

is this still not considered cheating?
Depends on the culture and timeframe. The issue is that the current western meaning of the word has a very different connotation than what we saw here. So yes, you can technically call it cheating, but it just doesn't hold the same meaning as what's commonly understood by that. You can see how that may be an issue, especially when one blames the baron for "cheating" while using the current sense, to refer to what was in the manga, and use that as an argument.
To quote wikipedia (referencing a research paper on that topic):

What constitutes an act of infidelity depends upon the exclusivity expectations within the relationship.

Considering there are no romantic expectations or a relationship to speak of, I do not believe we can speak of exclusivity expectations pertaining to love (not that they have even discussed that). And as far as his duty with regards to marriage and child rearing goes, we have a good reason to believe that he was planning to do well by it. So if anything he went as far as possible, while being gay, to honour his formal engagement. I am not sure what more you wanted from him in that regard - to become heterosexual magically? I am sure that if he was, he would have loved her, considering he loves the cousin that looks like her. The problem in that case would have been that she would have probably disregarded him because he would have been deemed "disgusting" for looking at her. It's a "self-fulfilling tragedy".

in a relationship others can be included and still not be cheating
If you want to go with this, you need convincing arguments that this is indeed a relationship, and not just a politically arranged contract. So far, from the information of the story you cannot provide such arguments.

the partner is aware and willing to share the guy to not be considered as cheating
It takes at least two people for a relationship and for an agreement - and an actual discussion of the matter - which is not the same as: "I heard you can summon beasts". She never once questioned what the duties and rules in that "relationship" are, since from the very beginning she knew that she got close to him by using his greed for power and achievements. It's pretty obvious that the idea of fidelity of the baron (marrying her and getting her pregnant) do not align with her ideas (unconditional love) - where the problem comes from. But from all of the actions and events it should be clear that their relationship is supposed to be closer to an arranged engagement, and in that sense the baron's ideas are a lot more adequate. So people trying to blame him for "cheating" are clearly biased if they willingly disregard the role she played in this and the nature of the "relationship".

even using the opportunity to use her death for a child to raise together
He could have nullified their engagement at any point and found a different spouse that would be understanding of his "preferences" and didn't expect love from him. He didn't because I can only assume he wanted to honour his engagement with the MC, despite the fact that it would have most likely tarnished his reputation (considering what people thought of her). So I do not think that your assesment here is correct. He could have had any woman bear his child considering he's the crowned prince - he was planning to choose our disfigured MC even then.
 
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I can see why you could say that all that happened was consensual, but it's still cruel after all, she basically turned into a battery and endured it just because she thought he was the only one who could see her for who she was. She needs to grow a spine and get character development, returning in time just to take revenge against the duke would be pointless, she needs to find her own happiness.
 
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Now go look for that black hair dude and marry him lol.

The fiance and the cousin are pure trash
 
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She is better off without that trash of cousin and ex-fiance. People who cheat in any way are trash and that's it.
 
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Time to side with the rival and let ex fiance and the cousin to get their dues. At least in usual stories where a soon to be married man is cheating on his wife he isn't literally expecting her to kill herself for him. I hope they got ripped to shreds in the original time line after everyone found out his powers were fake.
 
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Death by a broken heart and stone cold betray. Live again and say no I'm going anywhere with ex fiance and cousin don't come to my house.
 
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Scene the raw ex fiance and the cousin just so much
salt is Ivona love life now their is a hooded woman.
 
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@criver you’re speaking as if being gay means he’s incapable of feeling platonic love or friendship or appreciation of her efforts. She literally says just him being grateful or feeling a bit sorry for her would have made it worth it, but her cousin says there’s no reason to feel anything about her death, and that’s the trashy part. She’s not even treated as a human, which has nothing to do with sexuality. And to find a spouse that would be understanding of his preferences he’d have to reveal his preferences, which he did not. I feel she wouldn’t have reacted the way she did if he was open about it.
 
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you’re speaking as if being gay means he’s incapable of feeling platonic love or friendship or appreciation of her efforts.
No. I am specifically referring to people trying to give him crap for "cheating" and not loving her in a romantic sense. I have acknowledged on numerous occasions
that his lack of empathy is definitely not a positive:

You can blame him for using her for his own goals and having no sympathy towards her. I fully agree on that point. But that is as far as it goes - he is simply an ambitious egoist - there are many of those. But she's as much to blame, if not more, for putting herself in that situation - she literally offered her services as a doormat. And him being gay, or her cousin liking her "fiancee" is not something I would blame them for either.

And to find a spouse that would be understanding of his preferences he’d have to reveal his preferences, which he did not.
He doesn't need an understanding spouse specifically - he just needs someone that he can parade as his wife in front of the populace and the court. And considering what's at stake and the time period and morals you cannot blame him for not wanting to "share" his preferences. People are acting as if he specifically led her on - he did not. At all times it was clear there was no love, and their relationship was more akin to an employer and employee. She was in fact the reason he got in a relationship with her cousin.

My main takeaway from this story is that she did everything possible to sabotage herself. I can't feel much pity when I see someone actively working to destroy their life. It's a tragedy born from stupidity - the lamest kind of tragedy. The worse thing is that we'll probably see her "get revenge" on them, which would just solidify the fact that she learned nothing from those events, and who she actually has to blame for those. And/or we'll see a fairy tale development where the most capable knight becomes inexplicably infatuated with her. Anyways, both as cliche as they can get.
 
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@criver I think you're giving blondie and the cousin too much credit. The story isn't exactly that deep and they both act terribly to the FL. It's more than the cheating. The blonde literally used her skills to put himself into a more advantegous situation. The cousin is an asshole who had a relationship with her cousin's betrothed.
 
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@Torrence_Jet Use spoiler tags when you have spoilers in your comments (referring to your first reply).
I am unsure of the details on this, so we could discuss it when it gets translated.

The blonde literally used her skills to put himself into a more advantageous situation.
Correction: our MC gladly offered her services as a stepping stool for him - in fact that was an excuse she used to get closer to him. She made sure that the crowned prince will be an incompetent aristocrat by lying about his achievements which were actually hers. I blame her more than anyone else in this situation. It's like giving a loaded gun to a spoiled brat and then blaming the spoiled brat for any consequences.
Not to mention that it will surely be detrimental to the future of the country, and is unfair towards herself and any person that actually put in effort. She just enables more stupidity through her stupid actions.

It's good to see that she grew a brain in the next chapter though. That's more like it.
 

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