Toshiue Elite Onna Kishi ga Boku no Mae de dake Kawaii - Vol. 5 Ch. 30.1

[reu]

...pungent diplomatic methods

Bro's down bad for the brown tomboy

Also

>applying monopolar globohomo diplomatic theory to a renaissance sword and magic setting

could make sense if it was some ambassador metting a high ranking noble, but it's just a soldier acting as a courrier and picking up their equivalent of a hired Balestrieri or Landsknecht

 

[Xxjuggernaut]

Just fuck the boy already. The new characters are already roasting you. You're 28 ffs

 

[demonslender]

the message at the end was longer than the whole chapter. alright who else was stupid enough to read that end note? i don't want to be alone in this. seriously surprised the tl was this upset about the way the author doesn't understand politics.

 

[Loderno]

Bro I can't read the last page, can you write it with emojis?

 

[Wolvenworks]

the message at the end was longer than the whole chapter. alright who else was stupid enough to read that end note? i don't want to be alone in this. seriously surprised the tl was this upset about the way the author doesn't understand politics.

Me. I did. I’ve read enough wikipedia pages and wordy books to develop some immunity towards textwalls.

Which unfortunately reminds me of the backlog of books I’ve yet to read. I wish buying books entitle me to a PDF version of it so i can read it on the go instead of having to lug around 5 kilos worth of quality paper…

 

[Its_N8_Again]

Aye. TL has a ton of issues about that meeting. Whether or not that info is accurate though, this is still a fictional world, and a relatively medieval setting. Even if we take it into real-world context, this would be centuries before any of those reference books were authored. If anything, incidents like that one probably inspired the establishment of proper procedure and guidelines, which led to the reference materials for those cited books. "What NOT to do as a Diplomatic Representative."

Au contraire! Formalized protocols on diplomacy date back to the Bronze Age, though the modern procedures of standard practices began to take shape throughout the 1600s, into the early 1700s (per the Digital Encyclopedia of History Project at the Sorbonne). But of course, for any effort at standardization to begin, two things are necessary: some activity, involving diverse actors, which occurs frequently enough that standardization is more than just a waste of time; and, some assortment of pre-existing standards which may be proposed as part of standardization. For example, French became the standard language of diplomacy in the early 1700s, but it, of course, had existed loooooooooong before that point. It was chosen because it already was so commonly used.

In another vein: Tycho Brahe, one of the great Renaissance astronomers and mentor to Johannes Kepler, died, in large part, due to the strict demands of diplomatic etiquette. At a dinner in 1601, he really needed to pee. But, it was a severe breach of etiquette to stand from the table during a meal; by the time he was free to relieve himself, he could not do so, either due to inflammation of the bladder/urinary tract, or kidney stones. Either way, he died, unable to piss for nearly two weeks, all as a consequence of etiquette.

So be assured, that, in the age of sail, etiquette was DEFINITELY well established between any two nations before their representatives dared meet formally. And a well-built fantasy world would function no differently.

 

[JACGohu]

Au contraire! Formalized protocols on diplomacy date back to the Bronze Age, though the modern procedures of standard practices began to take shape throughout the 1600s, into the early 1700s (per the Digital Encyclopedia of History Project at the Sorbonne). But of course, for any effort at standardization to begin, two things are necessary: some activity, involving diverse actors, which occurs frequently enough that standardization is more than just a waste of time; and, some assortment of pre-existing standards which may be proposed as part of standardization. For example, French became the standard language of diplomacy in the early 1700s, but it, of course, had existed loooooooooong before that point. It was chosen because it already was so commonly used.

In another vein: Tycho Brahe, one of the great Renaissance astronomers and mentor to Johannes Kepler, died, in large part, due to the strict demands of diplomatic etiquette. At a dinner in 1601, he really needed to pee. But, it was a severe breach of etiquette to stand from the table during a meal; by the time he was free to relieve himself, he could not do so, either due to inflammation of the bladder/urinary tract, or kidney stones. Either way, he died, unable to piss for nearly two weeks, all as a consequence of etiquette.

So be assured, that, in the age of sail, etiquette was DEFINITELY well established between any two nations before their representatives dared meet formally. And a well-built fantasy world would function no differently.

Very well. But one thing I'm certain of is that not everyone is a scholar of the topic. And seeing as how this is still a fictional story, I'm willing to cut the author a little bit of slack. He'll likely turn it into a plot device, and we can vent on the character all we want.

And although it seems to have happened earlier than I thought it did, I have little doubt there were still mishaps like in the story, which led to the establishment of those practices.

 

[infantrysmarties]

Pg. 10 Christ has risen! Even in this world his love for humanity shines brightly. Very based. Thankyou!

 

[Diagus]

Next Boss

 

[Neganeko]

At this point the TL page is better than the manga is

 

[daimaouanos]

Aye. TL has a ton of issues about that meeting. Whether or not that info is accurate though, this is still a fictional world, and a relatively medieval setting. Even if we take it into real-world context, this would be centuries before any of those reference books were authored. If anything, incidents like that one probably inspired the establishment of proper procedure and guidelines, which led to the reference materials for those cited books. "What NOT to do as a Diplomatic Representative."

can you imagine this behaviour occurring in the time of honour and chivalry among nobles. could see several duels occurring from this level of disrespect and probably a full scale war just from this level of disrespect

 

[JACGohu]

can you imagine this behaviour occurring in the time of honour and chivalry among nobles. could see several duels occurring from this level of disrespect and probably a full scale war just from this level of disrespect

Of course I can. That's why I concluded with the statements that I did. For every established guideline and rule, inthis case for diplomatic relations, there is more than likely, an incident of errors, some form of disrespect, and even examples of absolute stupidity which helped define it. The situation here is a prime example.

 

[Giga]

That's not a tomboy--that's a streetwalker with only the most obvious parts of her femininity remaining, the rest supplanted by ersatz masculinity.

This sort of fixation on extremes is why so many, for years by now, think that a 99% tsuntsun girl is a tsundere. No, that's still just a girl that can't stand a given guy; she relents 1% of the time, and the aforementioned many call it true love.

 

[iSiffrin]

I read that entire wall of text only to notice the comment at the bottom left and broke down laughing.

 

[toru_okada]

Long ass message, you think this country's leaders would bother filing a diplomatic protest and cancel this arrangement cause they insulted Haru? Oh wait... the princess...

oonga boonga Zena big tomboy booba