Tsuihou Suru Gawa no Monogatari - Vol. 1 Ch. 7 - Time Attack

[kaminomikan]

lol the rating keeps falling. go go go.

 

[morichiro]

The issue with Est was the opposite side of the same coin. That doesn't mean it's equally workable, though. Est had the will to work with them but he didn't have the ability. With dragon girl, she has the potential as long as she learns to cooperate. Est hadn't been able to use any ability other than enchanting since he was a child. Nothing he did or could teach him could resolve that (they recruited him as a mentor so the fact that he knows more is known to the whole group). The fact that Est suddenly changed after wasn't something that could be taught nor does it really make sense, it's just that that's how these stories work. Before that, he couldn't use the magic needed to physically fight monsters so he couldn't defend himself and got badly injured. Daru already advised them to keep waiting but when it already got to the point where Est was almost getting killed he couldn't keep telling them to wait for Est to suddenly figure something out.

Also, where does it have a romance tag? I've seen the end of this manga, I've read the webnovel past the translation, there's neither romance nor a romance tag listed there.

MU has "romance" as one of the genres on this manga, and the WN in NU has the "harem" tag so... (it even has netori as a tag lmao)

 

[neoDrain]

man it's been a while since a manga made my blood boil this much. It's either the author is such a moron or this old man duru or w/e his name plan from the start was to kick Est from the party so he can have all the women or at least the blonde girl for himself otherwise it makes no sense.Like in this chap he's acting so smug aka "i will teach you how to fight" like if you're such a capable individual why didn't you help Est?, he knew people were verbally abusing Est everyday yet he didn't care to help him and was watching him suffer in silence,but now he wants to teach the dragon woman how to fight?, why because she's a woman?.He didn't even bother to fix the misunderstand yet Est is supposed to be the "asshole" of this story?

 

[Meridis]

MU has "romance" as one of the genres on this manga, and the WN in NU has the "harem" tag so... (it even has netori as a tag lmao)

like, Est has a harem but outside of that, no. It's probably there for the same reason the netori tag is there, since they were never together. That is, someone just adding shit without knowing either the story or what the tag means. Theoretically, something could happen later but such an event hasn't been written yet.
Edit: actually, there was some suggestion that Athena and the dragon girl liked him later. It just hasn't gone anywhere. Athena never states it aloud (nor to herself I think) and I think dragon girl mentions something about being okay with being with him. Can't deny it so much then. He doesn't respond to it though with past trauma and all.

man it's been a while since a manga made my blood boil this much. It's either the author is such a moron or this old man duru or w/e his name plan from the start was to kick Est from the party so he can have all the women or at least the blonde girl for himself otherwise it makes no sense.Like in this chap he's acting so smug aka "i will teach you how to fight" like if you're such a capable individual why didn't you help Est?, he knew people were verbally abusing Est everyday yet he didn't care to help him and was watching him suffer in silence,but now he wants to teach the dragon woman how to fight?, why because she's a woman?.He didn't even bother to fix the misunderstand yet Est is supposed to be the "asshole" of this story?

Est physically cannot fight. He can't teach him more than he already did because Est can't do the things he can teach. (swordsman in this are kinda like cultivators in xianxia, they need to circulate internal mana to fight) It's the same setup that most of these stories have, they have exactly ONE ability/skill that arbitrarily becomes able to do everything after they are kicked out.

That series is so "meh".
Let's say you banish him because you don't want to see him die, they were close to have the same dream Est & Athena, did they expect kicking him would make him stop being an adventurer ?? Can he even do anything else ? How can she claim having thinking about it a lot when in the best case scenario ( without plot armor ) he was doomed to either die or being used/bullied in another party ( and probably die too ).
I don't even want to spend more time explaining why that series is meh, I feel like I am stating the obvious.

There isn't really a solution then. He can't fight so he can't stay and keep going in with them but if kicking him means he's going to go get himself killed, then what exactly were they supposed to do? This is like with the misunderstanding that she and Daru are together. He chased after Est and tried to tell him but he wouldn't hear any explanation. Est has been very emotional and unreasonable. You might sympathize with him but that doesn't make it ok, especially when their lives are on the line. Something he should know since he almost died before he was kicked out then ran out and almost got himself killed again.

Again, this is just mediocre. It doesn't actually deserve to be at the bottom.

 

[neoDrain]

like, Est has a harem but outside of that, no. It's probably there for the same reason the netori tag is there, since they were never together. That is, someone just adding shit without knowing either the story or what the tag means. Theoretically, something could happen later but such an event hasn't been written yet.
Edit: actually, there was some suggestion that Athena and the dragon girl liked him later. It just hasn't gone anywhere. Athena never states it aloud (nor to herself I think) and I think dragon girl mentions something about being okay with being with him. Can't deny it so much then. He doesn't respond to it though with past trauma and all.


Est physically cannot fight. He can't teach him more than he already did because Est can't do the things he can teach. (swordsman in this are kinda like cultivators in xianxia, they need to circulate internal mana to fight) It's the same setup that most of these stories have, they have exactly ONE ability/skill that arbitrarily becomes able to do everything after they are kicked out.

There isn't really a solution then. He can't fight so he can't stay and keep going in with them but if kicking him means he's going to go get himself killed, then what exactly were they supposed to do? This is like with the misunderstanding that she and Daru are together. He chased after Est and tried to tell him but he wouldn't hear any explanation. Est has been very emotional and unreasonable. You might sympathize with him but that doesn't make it ok, especially when their lives are on the line. Something he should know since he almost died before he was kicked out then ran out and almost got himself killed again.

Again, this is just mediocre. It doesn't actually deserve to be at the bottom.

from the spoilers i read in the previous chapters " daru is not only good at swordsmanship but also magic aka op af" you telling me there was really nothing he could've done to help Est?.did he even try??maybe if they showed us some panels of him traning Est it would've been better but i really doubt he even tried to do so,like look how the party was supportive of the blonde girl when it turns out she was not that good without est's buffs " we believe in her" " we will always follow her " yet they treated est like a useless buffing machine that they can do without him,that's all est was to them maybe if they helped him learn more about his skill they would've realised how op he is especially Daru since he's supposed to be op .Anyway there's a lot of things i want to say but i don't wanna type an essay, tbh i just want to forget this manga exist and move on

 

[Meridis]

from the spoilers i read in the previous chapters " daru is not only good at swordsmanship but also magic aka op af" you telling me there was really nothing he could've done to help Est?.did he even try??maybe if they showed us some panels of him traning Est it would've been better but i really doubt he even tried to do so,like look how the party was supportive of the blonde girl when it turns out she was not that good without est's buffs " we belive in here" " we will always fellow her " yet they treated est like a useless buffing machine that they can do without him,that's all est was to them maybe if they helped him learn more about his skill they would've realised how op he is especially Daru since he's supposed to be op .Anyway there's a lot of things i want to say but i don't wanna type an essay, tbh i just want to forget this manga exist and move on

yes and no. They ALL use magic. There's 3 broad categories, atleast among them:

Enhancement: What Daru and Athena use (dragon girl too). It's what I was saying about them circulating internal mana an shit to make themselves stronger, faster, or improve their senses. THIS is what Daru is good at. Basically, physical fighters are still using magic to do it.

Enchantment: This is what Est can do. Basically, grant buffs and attributes to people and weapons. He could never do it to himself for some reason so he had to go up against monsters with only normal human abilities. Hence him almost dying before the story started. Est is the only one in the group who can use this type, so Daru can't teach it. It is also the only kind he can use. Also doesn't really help the mage's magic and Daru didn't need it in the first place.

Offensive magic: basically, just the actual attack spells. Elf mage is the only one in the group who can use this. Daru can't teach her this either, since he can't use this either. He was able to teach her
to absorb external mana from what he learned at the dojo he trained at but she can only manage because she's a skilled mage, can communicate with spirits, and an elf. I don't remember if Daru himself can't actually do it safely.

If Daru was capable of using the same kind of magic as Est, he might have had something to teach him about it. If Est could apply buffs to himself so that he could respond before a monster injures him, he would have taught him martial arts techniques to hold his own or defend himself. However, neither of those were true. So, he taught him just the basics of being an adventurer like the rest of them up till now.

 

[SpecialProjectY]

Hmm, seems like teamwork is necessary for achieving a goal efficiently.
Good example is shown right here, making each party members weaker in defense able to carry out their role when other lures or create an opportunity.

Seems like Daru can be really smart, as long there's enough vagina and no dick around, which we clearly can assume is going on right from the start.

 

[Xx_Itz_Jamez_xX]

I guess this is trash

 

[userlook]

This " i dont want him to die, so i will banish him from the partie" is a bullshit argument, because even if he was banished, he would still going to be a adventurer, but now he would need to form another party or going alone, and in both cases he would be in more danger than with the current party. The girl just wanted to kick a member she thought was an sore for her objective to be the strongest. What makes this manga so bad is the author trying to make the mc looks like he deserved the banishment and trying to make the suspicious uncle and the fmc like good persons that were only loking for the mc when banished him. And the worst thing is: its pretty obvious that the author will make the fmc fall in love with the uncle. The uncle dont clearing the misunderstood was the first part of his plan.

 

[userlook]

That series is so "meh".
Let's say you banish him because you don't want to see him die, they were close to have the same dream Est & Athena, did they expect kicking him would make him stop being an adventurer ?? Can he even do anything else ? How can she claim having thinking about it a lot when in the best case scenario ( without plot armor ) he was doomed to either die or being used/bullied in another party ( and probably die too ).
I don't even want to spend more time explaining why that series is meh, I feel like I am stating the obvious.

Finaly someone that understood how fmc is selfish and kicked the mc because she thought he was an sore for her plans.

 

[neoDrain]

This " i dont want him to die, so i will banish him from the partie" is a bullshit argument, because even if he was banished, he would still going to be a adventurer, but now he would need to form another party or going alone, and in both cases he would be in more danger than with the current party. The girl just wanted to kick a member she thought was an sore for her objective to be the strongest. What makes this manga so bad is the author trying to make the mc looks like he deserved the banishment and trying to make the suspicious uncle and the fmc like good persons that were only loking for the mc when banished him. And the worst thing is: its pretty obvious that the author will make the fmc fall in love with the uncle. The uncle dont clearing the misunderstood was the first part of his plan.

100% i agree with you. I understand the author wanted to do something different from the usual troupe 'all party members are assholes" but he just didn't know how to execute the idea properly and made them look like a bunch of hypocrites which's worse than the usual troupe like take the fmc for example she rly thought she was the only one who was serious about reaching the top, didn't ever cross her mind like how she put a lot of time /effort into achieving her dream so Est did?.like you said the idea of kicking him from the party because she doesn't want him to die is just beyond stupid.As if forcing him to give up on his dream gonna work and she should be aware of that since they share the same dream like didn't cross her mind that he will try solo adv or join another party?.In the end he will still be in danger, her actions were nothing but selfish by kicking him from the party she was willing to cut ties with him altogether" basically she was saying as long as you don't die in front of me i rly don't care what will happen to you

 

[Hollow7F]

''If i lose ill give anything including my virginity...''
+ that last page

.....author not even trying to hide their NTR fetish anymore, damn

 

[stilgar]

Are we making this the lowest rated manga on mangadex?? less go

I'm doing my part

 

[Puck2]

''If i lose ill give anything including my virginity...''
+ that last page

.....author not even trying to hide their NTR fetish anymore, damn

I guess Est missed his chance to offer his virginity to Daru. Seems to be the prerequisite to clear all misunderstandings and fight for one's teammates.
That must be the reason why Daru doesn't try very hard (e.g. you can speak to other persons when you really try not just one minute after you lied on his love or when you meet him coincidentally in the guild building).

 

[Puck2]

Seems like Daru can use his strength if something's in for him. When he saves Athena when she runs off alone he can show a strength he didn't show before.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Later in the webnovel when the party is about to be annihilated he uses all his sealed power.

It's funny that he couldn't use this power when Est was about to die.

 

[Puck2]

lol the rating keeps falling. go go go.

There are just 32 mangas on mangadex with worse ratings at the moment.

 

[sumipe]

I'm still praying for their downfall.