Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu - Vol. 7 Ch. 47 - Scheming Princess
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Entire comment train talking about possibility of guns when
So don't worry about guns. It won't matter in the story at least up until the story is left hanging.
the WN that is already on hiatus doesn't even have guns for common soldiers.
Only gun that was actually invented was for the Hero, and it's more like a magic gun. Oh and he became the nuke.
Only gun that was actually invented was for the Hero, and it's more like a magic gun. Oh and he became the nuke.
So don't worry about guns. It won't matter in the story at least up until the story is left hanging.
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Mío use magic guns with her dark element
Okay, lets say an isekai dude makes a laser. It's a laser. Its wavefront moves at the limit of causality. No future-reading precog shenanigans here. Now, how many joules would it take to kill a level 1500 spider? Which would be cheaper, dispersing magic steroids to your troops, or perhaps dispersing magic batteries to your laser main battle tank armored core division?
@valconus Spider make water fog field and lazer is now useless with optical law. Magic steroid is the best choice. Or use antimatter or proton gun. Always use the energy compression tech first like oil is superior to coal. So if you can compress mana like the one chunni who go nuke it's better.
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Doesn't she just use her fingers and act as though she is shooting? As far I can remember, she doesn't use any other weapon other than her fan. She has seen how guns work in Makoto's memories, and via Makoto's memory that spinning bullet increase stability and penetration. So she just manifest her dark element into spinning bullets that shoot out of her fingers. I don't think she uses any physical weapon other than her fan.
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DID SOMEBODY SAY GUNS?!
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The bitch is already working on guns so the only problem now is how long will it be till Makoto finds out about them and deletes (or attempts to) them from existence and how effective would that be cuz people may already be too aware of it by then and everything would be plunged into hell if it starts getting mass-produced
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look as a gun person and a person who like fiddling with guns(I've repaired multiple tt-33s and numerous bolt action rifles of my friends) it is super difficult to make a repeating firearm from scratch
a single shot handheld cannon? much simpler all you need to do is make propellant a way to ignite the propellant and a container for the propellant with a thing in the front
id assume their design is straight blowback because any other design seems quite hard to fit in a pistol with their technology
without modern industry, it means they have to custom make every single gun and that's gonna be hella expensive (labor and materials)
the gun would also be quite dangerous as they are prone to exploding... due to the fact its straight blowback and they probably don't have the best materials
they also don't know how to make rifling and it has a short ass barrel so that shits gonna be hella inaccurate with fairly low muzzle velocities
ok so that's the guns issue
-propellant time(ignore if they use magic)
unless they use magic as the propellant they will have to use black powder because most modern gunpowders are just too complex
they also face the issue of contamination since I don't think they can get materials pure enough for it nor do they know the ratios for them this has the issue of smoke, soot, and unreliability which means its gonna be inconsistent in terms of power and its fairly corrosive to steel and it would weaken or break the gun over time if not properly maintained
great now you have a gun and propellant
-cartridge/bullet time
ok so now a projectile ima keep it simple... just a lead ball nothing on top why bother? steel ammo would damage the barrel and so would iron balls are easy to make and have decent flight characteristics
spitzer heads would just tumble also its just a pistol
casings are the really hard part because they need a way to ignite the powder... they don't have percussion caps as far as i know and i don't know how to make them so that's that
for case it's even harder
it has to be strong so it can take the explosion without expanding too much or else it will get stuck in the chamber and it should be cheap since you will probably make a lot of it and if ammo cost too much and you dont have enough ammo then the guns would be useless
also since the guns are all custom there is a good chance some will explode or jam because the rounds don't fix exactly
(edit) the quarantine is boring as hell and i guess i happned to write a small essay on why guns wont work in an isekai
a single shot handheld cannon? much simpler all you need to do is make propellant a way to ignite the propellant and a container for the propellant with a thing in the front
id assume their design is straight blowback because any other design seems quite hard to fit in a pistol with their technology
without modern industry, it means they have to custom make every single gun and that's gonna be hella expensive (labor and materials)
the gun would also be quite dangerous as they are prone to exploding... due to the fact its straight blowback and they probably don't have the best materials
they also don't know how to make rifling and it has a short ass barrel so that shits gonna be hella inaccurate with fairly low muzzle velocities
ok so that's the guns issue
-propellant time(ignore if they use magic)
unless they use magic as the propellant they will have to use black powder because most modern gunpowders are just too complex
they also face the issue of contamination since I don't think they can get materials pure enough for it nor do they know the ratios for them this has the issue of smoke, soot, and unreliability which means its gonna be inconsistent in terms of power and its fairly corrosive to steel and it would weaken or break the gun over time if not properly maintained
great now you have a gun and propellant
-cartridge/bullet time
ok so now a projectile ima keep it simple... just a lead ball nothing on top why bother? steel ammo would damage the barrel and so would iron balls are easy to make and have decent flight characteristics
spitzer heads would just tumble also its just a pistol
casings are the really hard part because they need a way to ignite the powder... they don't have percussion caps as far as i know and i don't know how to make them so that's that
for case it's even harder
it has to be strong so it can take the explosion without expanding too much or else it will get stuck in the chamber and it should be cheap since you will probably make a lot of it and if ammo cost too much and you dont have enough ammo then the guns would be useless
also since the guns are all custom there is a good chance some will explode or jam because the rounds don't fix exactly
(edit) the quarantine is boring as hell and i guess i happned to write a small essay on why guns wont work in an isekai
The more I think about it, the more I think the princess has shit reason to be who she is. She blames the goddess for "abandoning" the hyumans, but hey, the goddess love the hyumans and give them her blessing. And despite having been blessed, they still LOST. The hyuman probably looked down so much on demons they underestimated them and got owned. I say it's karma.
The goddess is already helping the hyuman with the blessing. If you lose despite the blessing, you shouldn't be looking at your benefactor, but at yourself and ask why you suck so much. The demons, though unfavored, were still able to overcome the odds, kudos to them.
Giving heroes to the hyuman is a second chance of sort to me. You're not supposed to go beg the gods for every trial that goes on your way, you go overcome them. You do not stay a baby with parents to baby you all your life, you grow to be able to take on the world. Lily is nothing more than a brat throwing a tantrum.
The goddess is already helping the hyuman with the blessing. If you lose despite the blessing, you shouldn't be looking at your benefactor, but at yourself and ask why you suck so much. The demons, though unfavored, were still able to overcome the odds, kudos to them.
Giving heroes to the hyuman is a second chance of sort to me. You're not supposed to go beg the gods for every trial that goes on your way, you go overcome them. You do not stay a baby with parents to baby you all your life, you grow to be able to take on the world. Lily is nothing more than a brat throwing a tantrum.
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Ofc trashmoki knows to make a gun, not only its components but the way it is built, metalurgy and how to get its materials in the mines as well, on the side of his "modeling job" (fck fujoshit trash) and being bullied because "he's pretty" LMAOOOOOOOO. Please Tomoe don't rebuild Japan or you'll have this kind of trash and people will create isekai manga to flee from it = infinite loop.
Fucking hell this is ridiculous; in reality Trashmoki can't make guns and doesn't know how to. The world doesn't have the technology to do it either. The princess fails miserably and end of story. But here we'll have the plot and arc with guns etc. Urf a pain in the ass and uninteresting (remember ofc Tomoki talked about guns and doesn't want it to be produce, the writing motivations of the author are being showed so much that you can see the strings). It feels forced and isn't natural. Even if it's a magic gun how is it any different than a magic artefact ?
Fucking hell this is ridiculous; in reality Trashmoki can't make guns and doesn't know how to. The world doesn't have the technology to do it either. The princess fails miserably and end of story. But here we'll have the plot and arc with guns etc. Urf a pain in the ass and uninteresting (remember ofc Tomoki talked about guns and doesn't want it to be produce, the writing motivations of the author are being showed so much that you can see the strings). It feels forced and isn't natural. Even if it's a magic gun how is it any different than a magic artefact ?
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