Tsukkomi-machi no Machino-san - Ch. 7

[MaCl0wSt]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[habla]

a realistic turn in this empathetic girl wish fulfillment scenario

 

[Snovember]

2 months. For this. 16 pages.

I also agree with the other commenters w.r.t the sour note Machino-san left the chapter with. The impression we got in the previous chapters is that she’s quite aware of the dynamics between her and Nitanda, and how he is awkward, but values her, and is much more introspective and in his head than she. And she by all accounts knows that. So her giving at least slightly insulting and moderately disparaging comments would have been fine, if the context and mood was there. But since this wasn’t a one-on-one interaction, but one with an audience (of one, admittedly, but one not used to the dynamics between the two), the context changes; the playful comment becomes hurtful.

What I’d want to see is Nitanda avoiding the domino club room, since Machino’s comments hurt him, and have Nitanda come repeatedly into the empty room on different occasions. Better yet if he stores his dominoes to make the point clear that Nitanda avoids her, at the detriment of his joy/hobby, rather than expose himself to these kinds of comments again. Yes, maybe Machino wouldn’t see this as a sign to reflect on her—in her mind probably friendly and teasingly, but to Nitanda in reality hurtful—handling of the situation, but… we’ll see.

In 2 months, I guess.

 

[UdenEmpati]

2 months. For this. 16 pages.

I also agree with the other commenters w.r.t the sour note Machino-san left the chapter with. The impression we got in the previous chapters is that she’s quite aware of the dynamics between her and Nitanda, and how he is awkward, but values her, and is much more introspective and in his head than she. And she by all accounts knows that. So her giving at least slightly insulting and moderately disparaging comments would have been fine, if the context and mood was there. But since this wasn’t a one-on-one interaction, but one with an audience (of one, admittedly, but one not used to the dynamics between the two), the context changes; the playful comment becomes hurtful.

What I’d want to see is Nitanda avoiding the domino club room, since Machino’s comments hurt him, and have Nitanda come repeatedly into the empty room on different occasions. Better yet if he stores his dominoes to make the point clear that Nitanda avoids her, at the detriment of his joy/hobby, rather than expose himself to these kinds of comments again. Yes, maybe Machino wouldn’t see this as a sign to reflect on her—in her mind probably friendly and teasingly, but to Nitanda in reality hurtful—handling of the situation, but… we’ll see.

In 2 months, I guess.

That room being Nitanda's solace and oasis in school where he still carries his bombing of an introduction at the start of the term, his abandoning it here and now would be somewhat extreme.

But I do think that I would want to see him closed off to Machino next chapter. Turned inward, protecting himself by giving polite (read: formal, impersonal Japanese) answers, but not engaging with her banter and antics.
I'm not saying he should sulk and make her ask him what's wrong; but I think he could reasonably assume that his perception of their relationship is not what he'd thought, and that he'd act accordingly toward the girl who's the popular darling of the class, from his station at the relative bottom of the hierarchy.

Which would potentially force Machino to confront her actions, and her feelings--since I strongly suspect this chapter was her jealousy coming forth in Nitanda hanging out with another girl in the clubroom. Her being jealous is understandable, but she was borderline cruel to him, knowing his anxieties and vulnerabilities when it comes to social situations.

And that needs to be addressed, because I think the realistic path forward is for Nitanda to shut down completely. Which could result in him giving up the club and clubroom, at some point, as you stated.
So before that, Machino needs to own up.

I kinda just really worry that the ending with Nitanda's words to conclude the chapter, means he'll be expected to simply take it on the chin and be "back to normal" like she didn't just insult and deride him in front of someone else.

And that feels unrealistic, to me, given what we've gotten up to now.

 

[kuronotenshi]

thanks for the chapter
one of the manga I've been waiting for the most

 

[Snovember]

That room being Nitanda's solace and oasis in school where he still carries his bombing of an introduction at the start of the term, his abandoning it here and now would be somewhat extreme.
But I do think that I would want to see him closed off to Machino next chapter. Turned inward, protecting himself by giving polite (read: formal, impersonal Japanese) answers, but not engaging with her banter and antics.
I'm not saying he should sulk and make her ask him what'a wrong; but I think he could reasonably assume that his perception of their relationship is not what he'd thought, and that he'd act accordingly toward the girl who's the popular darling of the class, frokm his station at the relative bottom of the hierarchy.

Which would potentially force Machino to confront her actions, and her feelings--since I strongly suspect this chapter was her jealousy coming forth in Nitanda hanging out with another girl in the clubroom. Her being jealous is understandable, but she was borderline cruel to him, knowing his anxieties and vulnerabilities when it comes to social situations.

And that needs to be addressed, because I think the realistic path forward is for Nitanda to shut down completely. Which could result in him giving up the club and clubroom, at some point, as you stated.
So before that, Machino needs to own up.

I kinda just really work that the ending with Nitanda's words to conclude the chapter, mean he'll be expected to simply take it on the chin and be "back to normal" like she didn't just insult and deride him in front of someone else.

And that feels unrealistic, to me, given what we've gotten up to now.

I am ☝️👆close to just getting the first volume of the light novel and read ahead…

 

[Lunkli]

There was nothing he could do. She showed an interest in dominoes, and because it's not possible to marry the concept of a non-board board game, marrying someone else who's interested is the closest you can get. Sorry to say it, Machino, but you've lost this one. You should've been a domino.

 

[Vverg]

1. It's comedy Manga, please stop over analyzing it like some murder case.
2. Yeah, I really think some of you have autism. Cause you seeing things that arent there. "She wanted to make him to look bad as possible"... just lol.

 

[UdenEmpati]

1. It's comedy Manga, please stop over analyzing it like some murder case.
2. Yeah, I really think some of you have autism. Cause you seeing things that arent there. "She wanted to make him to look bad as possible"... just lol.

You can disagree with people without insulting them.
Using Autism like a pejorative says a lot more about who you are as a person than it does anyone else here.

 

[Vverg]

You can disagree with people without insulting them.
Using Autism like a pejorative says a lot more about who you are as a person than it does anyone else here.

1. I didn't insult them, I did criticize them for over analyzing the characters on a "slapstick" like comedy manga with a romance undertone.

2. Nowhere did I use autism as a insult. That you read it as that, says way more about yourself tbh. I made the comment cause some really explained a social situation where I think that someone with Autism might think like that, but not realistic in actual real life. Banter between friends is pretty normal. So if you make 4 alineas about the FMC being jealous and purposely want to hurt the MC and to make him look bad as possible, yeah I feel like you have autism/bad social skills.

 

[UdenEmpati]

1. I didn't insult them, I did criticize them for over analyzing the characters on a "slapstick" like comedy manga with a romance undertone.

2. Nowhere did I use autism as a insult. That you read it as that, says way more about yourself tbh. I made the comment cause some really explained a social situation where I think that someone with Autism might think like that, but not realistic in actual real life. Banter between friends is pretty normal. So if you make 4 alineas about the FMC being jealous and purposely want to hurt the MC and to make him look bad as possible, yeah I feel like you have autism/bad social skills.

You deride people's interpretation of Machino's treatment in this chapter and then go on to accuse them of having a neurological condition.

That's using it to disparage their character for engaging with a story in a way you don't agree with. Sounds like a pejorative to me.

And yes, Machino is behaving differently this chapter than she has in the previous 6, and that includes the time it was more than just the two of them alone in his clubroom.
The "banter" they've done would be those previous 6 chapters' worth of content. Even if she poked fun at him, she would balance that out with other comments that would soften the barb, or would move on to a different topic, and always leave on a positive note.

This time, she found him in his clubroom with a girl, and every word toward Nitanda was accusing him of being pervy or socially obtuse or generally weird and that Yukide shouldn't hang around him.
And that's while she's been made aware of how socially anxious he is. She didn't let him try and explain himself, and simply talked him down in front of Yukide before dragging her away and leaving Nitanda alone. No parting goodbye, no "balancing remark" to offset the negativity behind her words.

It was markedly different to how she behaved every other time. Charitably, it's because she was jealous of Nitanda hanging out with a girl different than her. But she still went out of her way to make every comment of hers toward and about him, negative.

That's not banter, at least compared to every interaction they had before.

Beyond that - not everyone reads a given situation the same. And not everyone will agree that trash talk, insults, or accusing someone in a clearly-accidental situation a pervert, is benign and simply something healthy between friends.

You're welcome to think so, but you're not better than anyone else because you're less sensitive to such things and how they can leave lasting effects on those subjected to them.

 

[Sero]

Man, some of you are too thin skinned. every little comment "ugh, thats offensive."

This is a romcom. Stop overanalyzing every little thing. Jesus fucking christ.

a side comment that is usually seen as a friendly jab in any other manga is now offensive? If thats enough to for you guys to look at her badly then my god, you guys are pathetic.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Man, some of you are too thin skinned. every little comment "ugh, thats offensive."

This is a romcom. Stop overanalyzing every little thing. Jesus fucking christ.

a side comment that is usually seen as a friendly jab in any other manga is now offensive? If thats enough to for you guys to look at her badly then my god, you guys are pathetic.

+1 Internet for you, big boy.
You sure showed the rest of us with your big talk and your superior brain'd takes.