TSUYOSHI - Vol. 21 Ch. 229 - Getting Cocky

[Novis]

THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSLATION!
I don't know. I'm kinda losing interest here. They keep adding more layers of fantastical stuff and I liked it a little more when it was absurd but still mostly grounded. Been losing me more and more with each added layer of weirdness.

 

[Sigilbreaker26]

THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSLATION!
I don't know. I'm kinda losing interest here. They keep adding more layers of fantastical stuff and I liked it a little more when it was absurd but still mostly grounded. Been losing me more and more with each added layer of weirdness.

They introduced ki in like volume 2 and nothing has been less grounded than that since.

 

[Novis]

They introduced ki in like volume 2 and nothing has been less grounded than that since.

Yes. That's what I'm saying. Every new element since then is kinda losing me more and more.

 

[ghostkun]

Bald is Beautiful

 

[undeed]

THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSLATION!
I don't know. I'm kinda losing interest here. They keep adding more layers of fantastical stuff and I liked it a little more when it was absurd but still mostly grounded. Been losing me more and more with each added layer of weirdness.

that's why I said long time ago that, for me at least, the story ends after he beat the Russian pretty boy.
(at least what I think the more grounded martial arts story is, speaking as a martial arts practitioner myself)
and then it's all just power fantasy after that
if you think this is fantastical, after that immortal dude, next volume we go into supernatural stuff for a bit
and then... well... all I can say is there will be a bit of 'Murica stuff

 

[romie68]

Based Teru is the only thing that can save this dogshit arc

 

[TestAddress]

Based Teru is the only thing that can save this dogshit arc

This is the only arc where Teru is based, because mommy said so. It will be back to its rightful character next time.

 

[Sigilbreaker26]

that's why I said long time ago that, for me at least, the story ends after he beat the Russian pretty boy.
(at least what I think the more grounded martial arts story is, speaking as a martial arts practitioner myself)
and then it's all just power fantasy after that
if you think this is fantastical, after that immortal dude, next volume we go into supernatural stuff for a bit
and then... well... all I can say is there will be a bit of 'Murica stuff

What sort of martial arts do you practice that you think the two guys in a row with robot hearts were grounded?

 

[undeed]

What sort of martial arts do you practice that you think the two guys in a row with robot hearts were grounded?

"MORE" grounded
I didn't say it is (just) grounded

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

"MORE" grounded
I didn't say it is (just) grounded

How in gods name was the story ever grounded? Who do you know in real life constantly has thugs attacking them at a 7-Eleven? Who do you know punches so hard they crack ROCKS? Who do you know gets super powers from doing light Tai chi with the elderly? All of which btw came at the very start of the series.

 

[undeed]

How in gods name was the story ever grounded? Who do you know in real life constantly has thugs attacking them at a 7-Eleven? Who do you know punches so hard they crack ROCKS? Who do you know gets super powers from doing light Tai chi with the elderly? All of which btw came at the very start of the series.

do you know what grounded means?

I didn't even say it was REALISTIC, as if is it realistically achievable
I just said it was MORE GROUNDED, which means that it was MORE SENSICAL or BELIEVABLE, that it still within the realm of Suspension of disbelief
specifically, MY realm of suspension of disbelief

here, let me ask you this
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or One punch man? obviously tsuyoshi is MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Strike it rich? I'd say tsuyoshi is MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Baki? tsuyoshi is MORE grounded from the looks alone
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Chinmi? chinmi is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Kenji? Kenji is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Tsumanuda Fight Town? Tsumanuda is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Hagure idol? hagure idol is MORE grounded, the fights that is. it is the tamer version of [strike it rich]. just forget about the robot
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Kenichi? about the same, more grounded fights in the early arcs, more and more mystical towards the end
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or New wave? also about the same
I could go on and on and on

are any of them truly realistic? fuck NO
all of them are fictions, but some are MORE GROUNDED than others
Tsumanuda is the most realistic one from all that I've read,
or Chinmi if you remove the tsuuhaiken and all those "chi attacks"

Tsuyoshi started off with simple street fights
taichi and kung fu and all sort of that always have that mythical and legendary power and awesomeness
that is the reason me and many people wanted to learn martial arts
of course I would want to be able to punch like that, with all those chi or ki or chakra or whateveryouwannacallit
however the more you learn, the more you realize yeah that's not gonna happen
you ain't gonna fly or shoot kamehameha
but on the other side, the more you understand the limit of human body, you can better distinguish which disbelief you can still suspend

everyone knows it is a fictional story, so there always be dramatization,
"grounded"-ness is a spectrum, it is not a YES or NO,
just because I said that the some part of it is MORE GROUNDED that the other, no one means that IT IS A REALITY

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

do you know what grounded means?

I didn't even say it was REALISTIC, as if is it realistically achievable
I just said it was MORE GROUNDED, which means that it was MORE SENSICAL or BELIEVABLE, that it still within the realm of Suspension of disbelief
specifically, MY realm of suspension of disbelief

here, let me ask you this
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or One punch man? obviously tsuyoshi is MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Strike it rich? I'd say tsuyoshi is MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Baki? tsuyoshi is MORE grounded from the looks alone
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Chinmi? chinmi is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Kenji? Kenji is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Tsumanuda Fight Town? Tsumanuda is way MORE grounded
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Hagure idol? hagure idol is MORE grounded, the fights that is. it is the tamer version of [strike it rich]. just forget about the robot
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or Kenichi? about the same, more grounded fights in the early arcs, more and more mystical towards the end
which one is more grounded, Tsuyoshi or New wave? also about the same
I could go on and on and on

Do YOU know what grounded means? Because grounded does not mean being less insane than “Insert popular manga here”. When I think of grounded(or even relatively grounded)I think of rom coms, cheesy high school romance, or legit sports manga


Not a manga where martial arts is basically magic and countries(from the start of the story mind you) are fighting using single representatives to avoid large scale war. So they hit down professional face punchers. This manga is just as unhinged as strike it rich with how much martial artists affect the world. Only difference is one has biological weapons + Cults and the other has death matches so nukes never get used again.

not being the most crazy series out of the bunch does not make a series grounded, or even relatively grounded. It just means that other stories are way more crazy.

 

[TestAddress]

Based Teru still will not get a girlfriend after beating Tsuyoshi, thus the bald monk.

 

[Torroeard]

Honestly for me I've come enjoy reading Tsuyoshi's character arc more than the fights, though I still think they're pretty good. Initially I thought he was going be more of a two dimensional character and at first I thought this was going to be more of a gag manga. Didn't think we'd get to see the main character falsely imprisoned by a corrupt government and see him slowly breakdown under pressure. That was more exciting than all the fights for me. I liked how one panel during his imprisonment that highlights him reading No Longer Human; the main character in that book had a traumatic childhood and problems adapting to society in a similar way that Tsuyoshi also has been experiencing and describing throughout the manga. It was a pretty wild ride seeing Tsuyoshi go from 'man having to fight hooligans outside the conbini sucks i just wanna paint' to 'man being targetted by multiple international government agencies sucks i just wanna paint' to 'man being falsely imprisoned by my own corrupt government and having my freedom ransomed from me in exchange for being some rich creepy old midget's gladiator/boytoy sucks i just wanna PARTY with KAGIYAN'. Also I'm surprised people think he developed some confidence overnight just because he got a haircut and changed his clothes. I think he's trying way too hard to act and look the way he thinks people like Kagiyan are. I don't think clubbing and going to a few fancy resteraunts is enough to overcome a lifetime of being a meek introvert and whatever fucked up shit his mom did to him when he was a kid. From the way his mom constantly emphasizes having to be normal, I'm pretty sure she treated him she did to "brainwash" him into never showing off how strong he is outside of self-defense, probably to keep people like Okouchi away from him.

 

[Gogglesluxio]

Tsuyoshi is trying too hard to play at being somebody confident and in control of his own life that he's just playing to somebody else's tune and abandoning so much of who he is, and it's really great writing. Tsuyoshi, at his core, does not want to fight. In his adventures with Kagiyan, he saw a path based in appearance to stop people from fighting him, and so he changed himself. But in doing so, he stopped being grounded as a person. Now that he works for Okouchi, he cannot avoid fighting and he can no longer exist within society as he had before. Fundamentally, a Tsuyoshi who fights without having had the fight brought to him is not the same Tsuyoshi who was undefeatable.