I.M.: Oh, there's something else I really want to mention, a variation of non-existence yuri — "this music is yuri".
R.M.: Please elaborate.
I.M.: There is this movie called "Sicario" by Denis Villeneuve, released in 2015 (TN: released in Japan as "Borderline"). It's a thrilling masterpiece about the drug war in Mexico. The composer of the movie soundtrack, Jóhann Jóhannsson, passed away this year, and according to one of his interviews, there were two themes in the soundtrack. The sense of dread of two wild beasts glaring and pouncing at each other represents the battle to the death between the illegal police force and the mafia. And the other theme was the melancholy of the border area, two emotional themes. If you listen to the soundtrack with that in mind, you cannot perceive it as anything but "yuri". Though the movie itself is not yuri at all.
R.M.: So if neither the story nor the characters have any yuri, what exactly are you supposed to imagine?
I.M.: Two wild beasts glaring and pouncing at each other. It's yuri, isn't it?
R.M.: I see.
I.M.: And the sentimentality of the border area is also yuri, so I believe this soundtrack is unmistakably yuri, but people don't tend to agree with me on this.
R.M.: Count me not surprised.