Useless Ponko - Vol. 4 Ch. 25.5 - Covid-19 Awareness PSA

[dysperwithaperiod]

corona is a slut of a virus... with a fetish for italians.

 

[Zaldun]

This is hilarious lol

 

[hyperactivehedgehog]

she's a robot and she's doing it, the thing what's your excuse?

 

[Truerror]

Thought this was a new chapter, then I saw the .5 part...

 

[Xinser]

So where do I buy this new volume

 

[Glomoro]

I was social distancing before it was cool.

 

[runrin]

@xinser, there are links on the series pages to buy it.

 

[abeja]

A gass mask is better, no wonder everyone is dying from the chinese virus.

 

[Ekfreet]

@abeja Nah, just retarded goverments unable to plan with a 2 fucking month notice of the health crisis.

Murica being demolished almost looks like karmic retribution.

 

[shmerdistor]

I feel guilty

 

[CyBerK]

Ponko: Become Human

 

[Xical]

Is that you, Mekazawa?

 

[Nolonar]

@abeja

no wonder everyone is dying from the chinese virus.

It's actually the "our government is f*ing incompetent" virus.

China got hit by surprise and put the country into quarantine, effectively buying the world as much time as they'd need to prepare against the pandemic.
Japan, South Korea, and pretty much every other Asian nation took this shit really seriously. There are hardly any infected people over there, compared to the rest of the world.
Europe and 'Murrica spent the next 2 months pointing fingers and laughing. They even criticized China for putting their people under quarantine: "we're a free world, we would never do that!"
Now they're hiding their incompetence behind some fancy words: "isolation" and "social distancing". And since it's technically not a real quarantine (and we're not even taking this shit seriously, because "we're free people in a free world, so we can do whatever we f*ing please"), we've surpassed China in the number of infected like we're hunting for some sort of macabre achievement.
And since our governments' incompetence is growing more and more obvious by the day, they're starting to accuse the Asians of "cheating with their statistics", as if that would magically cure us from Covid-19. If that's not further proof of their incompetence, what is?
Not to mention that our statistics aren't much more accurate than theirs. Due to shortage of tests, we're not testing everyone. In fact, we're only testing those with symptoms, even though symptoms can take up to two weeks to manifest (maybe even longer), and people can still infect others without any symptoms at all. I've already had a talk with a couple of people in Europe and the US, who were not given tests because their symptoms weren't bad enough.

So let's be civil and call it by its official name: Covid-19, or even "Corona", if that's more to your liking. Calling it "the Chinese virus" only serves to promote undue racism. By now, the spread of the pandemic is really our fault, because we're too dumb to respect our own lockdown orders. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that we're simply "too dumb to live".

 

[Gothmog]

@Nolonar I don't know where you are from, but respected press outlets in my country reliably demonstrated that the PRC did indeed falsify it's data on the outbreak and lied about it's impact to save face. If they had taken the right actions from the start and shared to the world accurate data, we would not be in the current situation.
For your information, according to investigations in China by local journalists assisted by western ones, China may have lied by an order of between 15 and 40 about it's true death toll. So no, in Europe we are still far under the actual Chinese death toll.

 

[Nolonar]

@Gothmog

respected press outlets in my country reliably demonstrated that the PRC did indeed falsify it's data on the outbreak and lied about it's impact to save face.

So? I never said they didn't. I said that it doesn't matter if they cheated or not. China could be 100% infected for all we care, we still could've avoided a pandemic, didn't, and now have lost control spectacularly.

So no, in Europe we are still far under the actual Chinese death toll.

I'm not talking about death toll, I'm talking about the number of infected people.
Also, I said that Europe and America don't test people unless they have symptoms, so the situation may just as well be much worse than we initially thought. Even if China cheats, that doesn't mean our situation is better.

Besides, there are more people living in China than in all of Europe together, so it's not surprising that there'd be more people dying every day in China than in Europe. Covid-19 is not the only thing that kills us, after all.
Yes, I know you only meant the death tolls caused by Covid-19, but did your source also mean the same, or did you simply misunderstand it?
Without citing your source, nobody can verify the veracity of your claim.

 

[abeja]

@Nolonar

"China got hit by surprise and put the country into quarantine, effectively buying the world as much time as they'd need to prepare against the pandemic."

No they didnt.
They ignore the problem and when they did start to do something about it, it was already too late, the WHO, CDC and all those idiots were telling the world that it was nothing, until it was too late, and the goverments were incompetents like always.

 

[Nolonar]

@abeja
Who didn't what?
Did China not get hit by surprise? Did they not put their country into quarantine? Did they not buy the world time?
They did. Just because the governments were too incompetent to use that time doesn't mean China didn't buy it.

As someone who lives in Europe, I've actually seen our governments' incompetence first hand.

> New Covid-19 spreading in China. "It's China. Doesn't affect us. But just in case: if you've been to China recently, stay home. We can't force anyone into quarantine, that would be undemocratic!"
> Guy returns from Wuhan to Italy, goes dining with family, 100 confirmed cases in Italy. "We could close our borders to Italy, but not without voting first. We are a democracy, after all!"
> Italy is under lockdown. Virus is running rampant at our border to Italy, has already spread to our major cities. "Cancel our carnivals? Without asking the people for their opinion first?"
> People are dying left and right. "The country is now officially under lockdown."

We've had PLENTY of time to react, but didn't. So we REALLY shouldn't be blaming China for our own incompetence. That's just petty and pathetic.

Interesting fact, it appears the US knew about the spread of Covid-19 in Wuhan as early as November of last year.
They knew 2 months before the rest of the world did, had another 2 months of time while China bore the brunt of it, and they still didn't do anything against it.
And then the President blamed China for not warning the world quick enough.

But back on the topic of the "Chinese virus": patient zero was a US military officer, so we really should be calling it the American virus.

 

[abeja]

@Nolonar

Did China not get hit by surprise?

They ignored the problem and even sent the police to shut up a doctor because he was telling everyone about the chinese virus

Coronavirus 'kills Chinese whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang'
https://archive.is/USUfq
China may have prevented 95% of virus cases if it enacted measures after silenced whistleblower’s warning
https://archive.is/RRqik

China lied people died

 

[Nolonar]

@abeja

China lied people died

I don't like repeating myself all the time, so have a quote:

China could be 100% infected for all we care, we still could've avoided a pandemic, didn't, and now have lost control spectacularly.

Also, none of the articles you link prove that China "lied". All it proves is that China made a mistake early on by not believing someone. The West does the exact same mistake, too:
The Washington Post (Jan. 24, 2020 at 5:57 p.m. GMT+1) criticizes China's quarantine as: "very unlikely to stop the progressive spread", adding to it that "It’s possible that this coronavirus may not be highly contagious, and it may not be all that deadly."
This is coming from the so-called "director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan."

The Chinese government may very well have had the same initial sentiment about Covid-19, which is why they thought Li Wenliang was fearmongering.
So tell me, why is the West allowed to downplay the Coronavirus, but not China?

And downplay it the West did, as I said in the very post you just replied to:

As someone who lives in Europe, I've actually seen our governments' incompetence first hand.

> New Covid-19 spreading in China. "It's China. Doesn't affect us. But just in case: if you've been to China recently, stay home. We can't force anyone into quarantine, that would be undemocratic!"
> Guy returns from Wuhan to Italy, goes dining with family, 100 confirmed cases in Italy. "We could close our borders to Italy, but not without voting first. We are a democracy, after all!"
> Italy is under lockdown. Virus is running rampant at our border to Italy, has already spread to our major cities. "Cancel our carnivals? Without asking the people for their opinion first?"
> People are dying left and right. "The country is now officially under lockdown."

Let's also not pretend "view this the same as the flu" didn't happen. (Washington - 26 February 2020)

That "China may have prevented 95% of virus cases" may be true, assuming the virus really did start in China, but the West is very much responsible for those same 95% for not reacting.

And finally, the rest of the post you ignored:

Interesting fact, it appears the US knew about the spread of Covid-19 in Wuhan as early as November of last year.
They knew 2 months before the rest of the world did, had another 2 months of time while China bore the brunt of it, and they still didn't do anything against it.
And then the President blamed China for not warning the world quick enough.

But back on the topic of the "Chinese virus": patient zero was a US military officer, so we really should be calling it the American virus.

That, and that older quote of mine, which you also ignored:

Besides, there's evidence it's actually the American virus.

That you ignore the very things that'd turn your entire narrative upside down, and keep spinning that irrelevant narrative of yours, adding sources that don't even support what you claim they support (China "lied"), is proof that you're being extremely disingenuous. If nothing else, your country's government was very competent with your brainwashing.

At this point I believe any further discussion is useless. You've obviously no interest in what I wrote, and you don't even understand your own sources. Your bias clearly shows, and your racist commentary doesn't help.

 

[Nolonar]

@abeja
I know reasoning with you is pointless, but I just wanted to set the record straight.

We now know that Covid-19 had already been in France (Europe) at least 3 days before Li Wenliang found it:

A patient treated in a hospital near Paris on 27 December for suspected pneumonia actually had the coronavirus, his doctor has said.
[...]
The patient, who has since recovered, said he had no idea where he caught the virus as he had not travelled abroad.
[...]
The patient, Amirouche Hammar was admitted to hospital on 27 December exhibiting a dry cough, a fever and trouble breathing - symptoms which would later become known as main indications of coronavirus.

This was four days before the WHO's China country office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause being detected in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

Have a nice weekend.