Ushimitsu Gao - Vol. 1 Ch. 7

[meowmorelikemewing]

idk as much as i love gou, why tf did he use words only the husband would say? its feels as if hes slowly been observing their relationship and has waited for the perfect time to introduce himself to her. Wdym you can possess and curse anyone, and wdym she just found out?! and the only reason she found out it wasnt the hub fawking her was from the head. i think he dropped it on purpose to show he was “messy” and not “used too possessing people.” but like emulate the hub manner if speaking?! like hear me out what if he possessed the husband way before she knew of his presence? possessing means they can also control peoples bodies, like gou could have fawked her with her husbands body way before she knew of gou so she would lose intrest in him, and controlled his speech. kinda how he paralyzed her in the beginning, is how i think he has been possessing the hubs body. i think the ghost is gonna be the villan in this story. he is such a manipulator and i love it

 

[Turkeyjerkey]

Husband not paying you enough attention? Too stupid to convey your feeling or simply leave? Just conspire with someone else to effectively drug and rape him while he's unconscious over and over again.

 

[Dingo777]

Husband not paying you enough attention? Too stupid to convey your feeling or simply leave? Just conspire with someone else to effectively drug and rape him while he's unconscious over and over again.

In fairness, leaving a marriage is NOT that easy, especially as a housewife in Japan, doubly especially when it was an arranged marriage. Where are you going to go? You’re not financially independent enough to live by yourself, your parents aren’t going to take you back in because they’re the ones who put you in that position to begin with, and it doesn’t really seem like she has any reliable friends.

Also it’s mentioned before she HAS tried talking to him, and he shuts her down.

 

[Turkeyjerkey]

In fairness, leaving a marriage is NOT that easy, especially as a housewife in Japan, doubly especially when it was an arranged marriage. Where are you going to go? You’re not financially independent enough to live by yourself, your parents aren’t going to take you back in because they’re the ones who put you in that position to begin with, and it doesn’t really seem like she has any reliable friends.

Also it’s mentioned before she HAS tried talking to him, and he shuts her down.

Oh I suppose that completely justifies the rape. Sigh.

Like it would he sooo hard to just divorce him and live off alimony, Japan's incredibly robust welfare system, and a part time job's income. What a difficult life.

Maybe she could, you know, take the initiative to make something of herself instead of being a parasite on someone she doesn't even like in an existence she hates. But no, better to wallow in a depraved, psychopathic rape fantasy that's obviously going to end horribly.

It's not really her actions that bother me, so much as the way people seem to completely gloss over the fact she's totally crossed the line at this point. What she's doing is absolutely no different from a guy repeatedly drugging and raping a girl without her knowledge, but he's a guy and neglectful, so people are just like "you go girl!"

 

[meowmorelikemewing]

Oh I suppose that completely justifies the rape. Sigh.

Like it would he sooo hard to just divorce him and live off alimony, Japan's incredibly robust welfare system, and a part time job's income. What a difficult life.

Maybe she could, you know, take the initiative to make something of herself instead of being a parasite on someone she doesn't even like in an existence she hates. But no, better to wallow in a depraved, psychopathic rape fantasy that's obviously going to end horribly.

It's not really her actions that bother me, so much as the way people seem to completely gloss over the fact she's totally crossed the line at this point. What she's doing is absolutely no different from a guy repeatedly drugging and raping a girl without her knowledge, but he's a guy and neglectful, so people are just like "you go girl!"

didnt he not care she almost got raped? dont get me wrong like i dont support either parties, but it just soynds like your hurt and have had this happened because he never got drugged just possed. i mean this with all sincerity my dms are open babes, ik how it feels

 

[Speederzdk]

didnt he not care she almost got raped? dont get me wrong like i dont support either parties, but it just soynds like your hurt and have had this happened because he never got drugged just possed. i mean this with all sincerity my dms are open babes, ik how it feels

You read it wrong. The initial reaction of him connecting the dots and running out to find his wife IS him, not the ghost. You literally got tricked by the ghost in the same way the wife did.

The husband absolutely cares, but he was possessed and the ghost lied so now it looks like he doesn’t.

 

[meowmorelikemewing]

You read it wrong. The initial reaction of him connecting the dots and running out to find his wife IS him, not the ghost. You literally got tricked by the ghost in the same way the wife did.

The husband absolutely cares, but he was possessed and the ghost lied so now it looks like he doesn’t.

OMG 😭 tyyy

 

[HenrykDodwel]

Men all of.them are terrible

 

[HippoPilot]

She's a horrible person. She's entirely at fault for the marriage she chose to get into but won't leave because she's too selfish to abandon the money. She could have just been open and honest with the husband with her issues even before the adultery but she didn't even wait to see if that would work out. Women read these kinds of stories as "liberating" and sympathetic but it's entirely cruel on their part.

 

[HippoPilot]

A lot are assuming this will turn back around on her in a twist but women are unironically this self-centered and see nothing wrong with the scenario.
inb4 "not all women"

 

[HippoPilot]

Oh I suppose that completely justifies the rape. Sigh.

Like it would he sooo hard to just divorce him and live off alimony, Japan's incredibly robust welfare system, and a part time job's income. What a difficult life.

Maybe she could, you know, take the initiative to make something of herself instead of being a parasite on someone she doesn't even like in an existence she hates. But no, better to wallow in a depraved, psychopathic rape fantasy that's obviously going to end horribly.

It's not really her actions that bother me, so much as the way people seem to completely gloss over the fact she's totally crossed the line at this point. What she's doing is absolutely no different from a guy repeatedly drugging and raping a girl without her knowledge, but he's a guy and neglectful, so people are just like "you go girl!"

THANK YOU! It is literally the easiest time in history to get a divorce in pretty much any first and second world country. Even more so with children involved. Why do people pretend they're so helpless they "have" to do these immoral things?

 

[sixtem]

Also it’s mentioned before she HAS tried talking to him, and he shuts her down.

It's unclear what she actually told him, though. In the first chapter when she's thinking about how bad he is at sex she thinks of a few things that would improve it for her but intentionally doesn't say any. All it seems like she told him is that he's under-performing/it's unsatisfying. She repeatedly points out that she can't communicate with him and doesn't have the courage to bring anything up which is why the ease she has "talking" with Gou serves as a contrast.

There's also the possibility that there isn't anything he could do to satisfy her. When she flashes back to college she doesn't even find cunnilingus satisfying but loves it from Gou. She may just be a necrophiliac.

Don't get me wrong, the husband sucks, but she's also garbage. Especially since she seems to think being a serial rapist is fine when she does it.

 

[nyamcam]

They're freefalling omg IT JUST GETS BETTER

 

[feignedremoteness]

Women read these kinds of stories as "liberating" and sympathetic but it's entirely cruel on their part.

It's not really her actions that bother me, so much as the way people seem to completely gloss over the fact she's totally crossed the line at this point. What she's doing is absolutely no different from a guy repeatedly drugging and raping a girl without her knowledge, but he's a guy and neglectful, so people are just like "you go girl!"

Not a single person in the comment section for this chapter is saying “you go girl” or talking about this as liberating. (People explaining why she doesn’t immediately exit the marriage is not the same as applauding her actions! And people approving of her in previous chapters is not the same thing as people continuing to approve of her now that new plot developments have happened.)
I think it’s pretty clear that the situation has spiraled out of her control, and while she’s still a willing participant, it’s doubtful that she could “run away from” Gou all that easily if she changed her mind on him or started to be bothered by anything he did. Hardly a liberating fantasy!

It’s bothersome to have this kind of moral shabbiness projected onto “women” in general just because a manga is exploring some dark themes that make you uncomfortable. At least actually respond to things people are saying, instead of imagining some readers who are uncritically getting off to this and then getting mad at them.

 

[Turkeyjerkey]

Not a single person in the comment section for this chapter is saying “you go girl” or talking about this as liberating. (People explaining why she doesn’t immediately exit the marriage is not the same as applauding her actions! And people approving of her in previous chapters is not the same thing as people continuing to approve of her now that new plot developments have happened.)
I think it’s pretty clear that the situation has spiraled out of her control, and while she’s still a willing participant, it’s doubtful that she could “run away from” Gou all that easily if she changed her mind on him or started to be bothered by anything he did. Hardly a liberating fantasy!

It’s bothersome to have this kind of moral shabbiness projected onto “women” in general just because a manga is exploring some dark themes that make you uncomfortable. At least actually respond to things people are saying, instead of imagining some readers who are uncritically getting off to this and then getting mad at them.

With regards to being uncomfortable, that is absolutely the intent of the author. But my real discomfort is with whether the author is "in the know." Like when someone writes a racist or rapey character sometimes you can't immediately parse whether the author knows their opinions are bad. I assume itagaki does know based on past work, but it just hasn't been fully revealed by this point where the story will go and who and how it will vindicate. And the second tension is whether the audience knows, which some certainly do not.

Now I don't believe in gender but let's go with it for easy communication.

Flip the situation. Male husband effectively drugging and raping his wife. Now, you bring up that that's what's happening and people in the comments respond with "oh in fairness leaving a marriage is really hard for a man cuz he'd get dragged through divorce court and she also shot down his attempts at communication" and "women. All of them are terrible."

So perhaps my childish reaction was overstated, and maybe the script flipping does nothing for you, but do you understand my exasperation? Is it not an all to common experience when a man rapes a woman for people to immediately jump in defending him and victim blaming? The reverse should be equally infuriating. If someone responds to spousal rape with "well she wasn't communicating and sexually satisfying him" are they really just explaining?

But I understand your defensiveness in this situation as I am also often exasperated with how people seemingly project the actions of fictional "women" onto real groups of people. Hopefully you can understand mine.

 

[HippoPilot]

Not a single person in the comment section for this chapter is saying “you go girl” or talking about this as liberating. (People explaining why she doesn’t immediately exit the marriage is not the same as applauding her actions! And people approving of her in previous chapters is not the same thing as people continuing to approve of her now that new plot developments have happened.)
I think it’s pretty clear that the situation has spiraled out of her control, and while she’s still a willing participant, it’s doubtful that she could “run away from” Gou all that easily if she changed her mind on him or started to be bothered by anything he did. Hardly a liberating fantasy!

It’s bothersome to have this kind of moral shabbiness projected onto “women” in general just because a manga is exploring some dark themes that make you uncomfortable. At least actually respond to things people are saying, instead of imagining some readers who are uncritically getting off to this and then getting mad at them.

Yes they have gone, "you go girl" and defended her actions. Stop blatantly gaslighting.