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Of all the things I thought I’d see in this series, I never thought the Schrödinger’s Cat would be one of them. But it makes so much sense. I have a lot of free time in my hands so I want to rant about it.
The whole idea behind it is to point out the absurdity of discussing whether or not the proposition that quantum particles assume (exist in) both states that are opposite to each other (positive and negative), but once we try to observe them, they will assume one or the other is true or not. The thought is experiment originated in an article that makes a commentary of a debate between the Einstein, Podolsky and Roden (EPR) trio and Bohr about the theory of “quantum superposition”.
The story of a cat that can be either dead or alive inside of the box but will ultimately be only one and not the other once we open it (observe it) serves to illustrate what quantum physics is: not observable in “our world”. Quantum particles are smaller than minuscule, so they are never meant to be something we can actually see, they are an idea imo. And an idea that in itself illustrates what we are talking about when dealing with probability. When we are calculating the probabilities of a certain event, or of a variable assuming any value, we can’t point at what that thing/variable really is — it’s all of it, all of the possibilities. It only becomes one possible value/thing, when we observe it. A coin is either head or tails, but before we see the result, it’s both.
It’s abstract. One thing is never true or false before it happens or it doesn’t. Think of Aristotle’s potentiality and actuality most of us learn at school. I think all of these ideas talk about pretty similar things. And in this comic the premonitions are exactly that: a potential future, a state things can assume, but we can never say for certain that it will or will not happen. And we have been proven on Chapters 45 and 46 (“Sleep” arc) that even without someone knowing of the state of these opposite things existing at the same time in Satsuki’s eyes (people are dead, but they are not until it happens, she seems them both dead and alive at the same time and the same place), the foreseeable death can simply cease to be. Death is always lurking because it’s never not a possibility, but so is people still being alive. That’s why to me predicting stuff is never foul-proof, we need to assume anything can be true. Even when dealing with data and having really sophisticated softwares make the calculations for us, it can always end up being wrong.
With that in mind one can simply assume that Satsuki’s actions may not be her defying stronger forces, it was simply one of the possibilities or how things would turn out to be. These people survive this time, next time they can die, they can survive again, but they are always bound to die one day because death is as possible as surviving. So how can we say that meddling with the premonitions is offending the universe? The bodies keep showing up because the death that is always possible is simply postponed, and it will one day happen with all of us. One day anyone’s corpse could show up, and disappear after someone consciously or unconsciously meddled with the strings of fate. They are to be meddled with until the fact actually happens because the future is both there and it isn’t.
Now, why Komachi is said to have been the one piece Satsuki couldn’t have messed with and the one that should have died still intrigues me. But the idea that preventing deaths wasn’t the issue because living and surviving “co-exist” at some point in time (theoretically) explains why everything seems to point out that Satsuki saving lives might have not been an issue if not for Komachi’s survival triggering something.
Anyways, as for my source about Schrödinger’s Cat I apologize to you guys that it is a Portuguese-speaking video with no subtitles. But this is the video that made me snap when thinking of quantum physics:
Maybe many other videos explain the same thing. I am not a physicist so my conclusions could be extremely wrong. I do deal a lot with statistics in my field tho.
The whole idea behind it is to point out the absurdity of discussing whether or not the proposition that quantum particles assume (exist in) both states that are opposite to each other (positive and negative), but once we try to observe them, they will assume one or the other is true or not. The thought is experiment originated in an article that makes a commentary of a debate between the Einstein, Podolsky and Roden (EPR) trio and Bohr about the theory of “quantum superposition”.
The story of a cat that can be either dead or alive inside of the box but will ultimately be only one and not the other once we open it (observe it) serves to illustrate what quantum physics is: not observable in “our world”. Quantum particles are smaller than minuscule, so they are never meant to be something we can actually see, they are an idea imo. And an idea that in itself illustrates what we are talking about when dealing with probability. When we are calculating the probabilities of a certain event, or of a variable assuming any value, we can’t point at what that thing/variable really is — it’s all of it, all of the possibilities. It only becomes one possible value/thing, when we observe it. A coin is either head or tails, but before we see the result, it’s both.
It’s abstract. One thing is never true or false before it happens or it doesn’t. Think of Aristotle’s potentiality and actuality most of us learn at school. I think all of these ideas talk about pretty similar things. And in this comic the premonitions are exactly that: a potential future, a state things can assume, but we can never say for certain that it will or will not happen. And we have been proven on Chapters 45 and 46 (“Sleep” arc) that even without someone knowing of the state of these opposite things existing at the same time in Satsuki’s eyes (people are dead, but they are not until it happens, she seems them both dead and alive at the same time and the same place), the foreseeable death can simply cease to be. Death is always lurking because it’s never not a possibility, but so is people still being alive. That’s why to me predicting stuff is never foul-proof, we need to assume anything can be true. Even when dealing with data and having really sophisticated softwares make the calculations for us, it can always end up being wrong.
With that in mind one can simply assume that Satsuki’s actions may not be her defying stronger forces, it was simply one of the possibilities or how things would turn out to be. These people survive this time, next time they can die, they can survive again, but they are always bound to die one day because death is as possible as surviving. So how can we say that meddling with the premonitions is offending the universe? The bodies keep showing up because the death that is always possible is simply postponed, and it will one day happen with all of us. One day anyone’s corpse could show up, and disappear after someone consciously or unconsciously meddled with the strings of fate. They are to be meddled with until the fact actually happens because the future is both there and it isn’t.
Now, why Komachi is said to have been the one piece Satsuki couldn’t have messed with and the one that should have died still intrigues me. But the idea that preventing deaths wasn’t the issue because living and surviving “co-exist” at some point in time (theoretically) explains why everything seems to point out that Satsuki saving lives might have not been an issue if not for Komachi’s survival triggering something.
Anyways, as for my source about Schrödinger’s Cat I apologize to you guys that it is a Portuguese-speaking video with no subtitles. But this is the video that made me snap when thinking of quantum physics:
