Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui! - Ch. 235 - Since I'm Not Popular, We'll Talk About Someone's Romance

[BlackwingYu]

He's built like a fist of the north star character

 

[Rose3133]

I hope the fan sip tomoko x emoji will sail soon but im fine with not true i just want see ending man

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[tenico]

Loved the "but that's for you to decide, i guess" at the end, as if her mentality wasn't something incredibly harmful to a relationship and shouldn't be buried deep down.
I missed this toxic Tomoko.

 

[michi_choux]

Yeah, her relationship with Yuu was actually bit harmful in long run, exactly because of this dependency that socially crippled Tomoko later. And while friend getting partner can decrease amount of your time together, so will other tons of stuff like them getting into sport club, studying to get into better school, getting a part-time job etc, learning how to deal with that and keep friendship together is how you become adult. And also learning to deal with both a partner and your old friends - and sometimes even partner's friends - is another skill that should be learned earlier rather than later, if possible. Without it, your friendship will just fall apart eventually anyway.

And her tirade about fans is also to me supporting delusional and harmful ideas. Your idols or whoever always had far more important people in their lives than their fans - their family, their best friends, probably often even their colleagues from the band. Thinking that idol getting a partner changes everything is just misunderstanding of virgin incels like Tomoko. More importantly, normalizing the idea of dropping out of fandom creates very harmful system of incentives for idols and celebrities to either become sexless, or to hide their relationships. I will definitely say that someone who is willing to openly support such harmful system hurting their idols is, in fact, not a real fan at all.

And the fact that this whole purity system was created and exists AFAIK only in Japan and Korea, and celebrities in West never had to deal with this, clearly shows that the whole universality of that message that Tomoko - or rather author through her mouth - tried to create here is simply false. I never heard of anyone around me stopping being a fan of some celebrity because they got married. And those girls agreeing with her is also annoyingly obvious author's way to make reader think "she's right".

This probably gives some hint on the likeness of all those hypothesis that say some of the girls will end up paired, either among themselves or with guys. There's absolutely no chance Tomoko ends up with some guy, she was for the longest time the instrument of self-insert...

Also, rather than being used as male material, Wada is at this point more likely to join the cast of regular girls.
And I have no idea why authors keep forcing Tomoki material down our throats, the girls surrounding him are the less popular among the fanbase (aside from Wada himself, these days).

 

[rmrs]

damn, he ripped
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Bromoji F U C K S

 

[rmrs]

And I have no idea why authors keep forcing Tomoki material down our throats, the girls surrounding him are the less popular among the fanbase (aside from Wada himself, these days).

I don't think I'm in the minority but I liked the Tomoki arc(s?). The man is built for suffering. I feel like it's some kind of inverse NTR, he is beset on all sides by horny idiots he wants nothing to do with.

 

[Minkulus]

great chapter. love to see this much grossness delivered in just a few pages.
i also think that tomoko being able to go on these kinds of thoughtful monologues really shows she's gonna do great as a light novel author lol

 

[Mah_Buddy_Keith]

Tick Tock by Joji plays softly in the distance…

 

[KuroZer0]

While I hoped for something like a confession (wich I knew wouldn’t happen) is this just as satisfying.

 

[rikahime]

And the fact that this whole purity system was created and exists AFAIK only in Japan and Korea, and celebrities in West never had to deal with this, clearly shows that the whole universality of that message that Tomoko - or rather author through her mouth - tried to create here is simply false. I never heard of anyone around me stopping being a fan of some celebrity because they got married. And those girls agreeing with her is also annoyingly obvious author's way to make reader think "she's right".

I took it as less the author's way of saying "she's right" and more the author saying that a lot of fans, i.e., the ones who do spend and interact with their idols, are indeed more parasocial than they want to admit.

 

[Othingl]

Look at our wingwoman Nagi, so happy Tomoko said the right thing and didn't make the emoji cry.

 

[Wizardrone]

what i can say everyone else already said everything.

Thanks for the chapter

 

[AmeAmeAme]

She wasted her chance in the perfect setting, this move would have charted her performance way above others .But time and time again, we see she expects Tomoko to take on the initiative [on matters she's extensively unaware of]. She nonetheless feels sufficiently compromised as to inform Tomoko of things related to their situation?

Bro you're using lots of complicated words for a mindfakk series like Watamote.

 

[AmeAmeAme]

What Tomoko said here reaally hits the home for the fans of Idols and (JP) VTubers like me. I guess i'm more leaning to Yuri-type experiences with her favs musician lol
As expected from Tomoko Kuroki, our number three best girl after Kii-chan and Asuka 😋

 

[arcosapphire]

And the fact that this whole purity system was created and exists AFAIK only in Japan and Korea, and celebrities in West never had to deal with this, clearly shows that the whole universality of that message that Tomoko - or rather author through her mouth - tried to create here is simply false. I never heard of anyone around me stopping being a fan of some celebrity because they got married. And those girls agreeing with her is also annoyingly obvious author's way to make reader think "she's right".

Eh, I don't think the west is immune to it. I remember when everyone (well, straight women) was going nuts over Ricky Martin. Then he came out as gay, and his popularity plummeted. Even though it's not like any of those fans had a chance with him to begin with, apparently his popularity was based on such absurd hopes?

The show Sense8 has a similar plot with a gay actor who basically loses his career when he comes out, because for some reason what got people in movie seats was some nonsensical hope that he'd have sex with them? I guess? So this is definitely an acknowledged thing in western society, although it's gotten better over time I'd say. Still, people seem to pin fandom on some completely far-fetched parasocial idea that their idol might potentially be interested in them.

It's not universal in the sense that plenty of people don't think that way, but it's not just an artifact of Japanese society either.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Eh, I don't think the west is immune to it. I remember when everyone (well, straight women) was going nuts over Ricky Martin. Then he came out as gay, and his popularity plummeted. Even though it's not like any of those fans had a chance with him to begin with, apparently his popularity was based on such absurd hopes?

The show Sense8 has a similar plot with a gay actor who basically loses his career when he comes out, because for some reason what got people in movie seats was some nonsensical hope that he'd have sex with them? I guess? So this is definitely an acknowledged thing in western society, although it's gotten better over time I'd say. Still, people seem to pin fandom on some completely far-fetched parasocial idea that their idol might potentially be interested in them.

It's not universal in the sense that plenty of people don't think that way, but it's not just an artifact of Japanese society either.

But that's IMHO different issue, homophobia was far more common back then, and even now with all those culture wars some people will react negatively to a politicized issue, and unfortunately someone's sexuality is still politicized in minds of many people. Gays are often stereotyped as unmanly and feminine, so it's not surprising many women would no longer find them attractive after coming out.

I'm not saying it's fine and cool, but I'm very sure that it's totally different issue than wanting purity from your idols so you can pretend to be most important, or not think about someone having sex with them. If some actor or pop start came out as trans, you'd find even bigger loss of popularity, but it wouldn't have anything to do with purity or hopes of sex.

 

[arcosapphire]

But that's IMHO different issue, homophobia was far more common back then, and even now with all those culture wars some people will react negatively to a politicized issue, and unfortunately someone's sexuality is still politicized in minds of many people. Gays are often stereotyped as unmanly and feminine, so it's not surprising many women would no longer find them attractive after coming out.

I'm not saying it's fine and cool, but I'm very sure that it's totally different issue than wanting purity from your idols so you can pretend to be most important, or not think about someone having sex with them. If some actor or pop start came out as trans, you'd find even bigger loss of popularity, but it wouldn't have anything to do with purity or hopes of sex.

It's a different cause, but it's still the same result of "oh, so I don't have a shot with them? Fuck this", even though as a random fan they never had a shot. Basically just parasocial delusions in both cases.

 

[IbnAurum]

What a disgusting opinion, as expected from the scummy Tomoko, tho it does seem to boost her social affinity with Ucchi. This holy L take reminds me of the earlier chapters as we see how much depravity Tomoko gets into.

 

[arcsalvo]

With that face and body, Emoji girl needs to check to make sure he's not her cousin. Seems like there's some similar genetics going on.