Watashi no Kanojo wa Otokonoko

[WhoCares]

This is unsatisfying as a story, but the way it's written portrays pretty accurately what it's like to feel hurt by society pushing back against a personal identity. Is the dialogue kinda preachy? Yeah, because young teens tend to be like that. And sometimes there are people like Miki, who say "I don't understand" to imply "so you're wrong." These things are very true to reality, and resonate with people who've gone through similar experiences, but the story doesn't have much else to offer anybody uninterested in learning about the point of view presented.

In regards to the scientific complexity of sex brought up in the comments, read this: http://www.learner.org/courses/biology/units/gender/experts/vilain.html

 

[DesertStorm]

@VonCesaw

Read the content before you react! It might have a bias, but it doesn't mean the content is false. It just means that the content is valid, but it leans more towards to the right.

No excuses to educate yourself!

 

[retrocombine]

Kids are such a pain in the ass.

 

[kittycatomaniac]

@DesertStorm How about you take your own advice and stop getting your information from people who openly hate the people they're trying to "educate" you about? Do you seriously not see the conflict of interest here? "It might have a bias, but it doesn't mean the content is false", fucking really?! Would you trust a klansman if he wrote a totally legit-looking paper on the inherent superiority of the white race, too? Anyone can misrepresent studies and statistics and if they have a bias against the particular subject they're writing about, you'd better believe they're gonna twist every little piece of information they can find to fit their bias, if they even bothered to look for any in the first place instead of just making shit up.

 

[totallynotmike]

Would you trust a klansman

Bwahahahaha. Of course someone'd have mentioned a clansman by this point - your running script doesn't allow you any originality. Still waiting for Hitler though - fingers crossed, fingers crossed.

Anyone can misrepresent studies and statistics and if they have a bias against the particular subject they're writing about, you'd better believe they're gonna twist every little piece of information they can find to fit their bias, if they even bothered to look for any in the first place instead of just making shit up.

Yes, precise same thing can be said about progressive bullshit (they jumped the shark while introducing "non binaries" from far side of the moon). Like mate two comments above yours, that is clearly conflating "gender" and "sex" on purpose. How do I know he's doing it intentionally? Well, because in interview linked by him (her? zur?) even the dude that is being interviewed makes very clear distinction between the two - what's more, what he's doing for the whole conversation is tying "SEX" to chromosomal makeup, which has nothing to do with GD delusion that is being presented in the oneshot, nor with the "discussion" that is going on in this thread.

So, how dare you talk about biases and "making shit up"?

 

[crazybars]

0/10

This manga is subpar plotwise. Whoever plotted the story was awful. There's one character who is there as a strawman, another girl character who's appearance bloody changes so I had no idea what was going on, and OH BOY is the main character written poorly.

By covering a controversial topic, the Author or whoever is responsible got an award for what is at best a D+ manga plot with A-C grade art.
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Why write a story where a Transgender ends up

Spoiler

As a Male identifying as a FEMALE WHO IDENTIFYS AS A LESBIAN

OH BOY, I HAVE A NAME FOR THAT

Spoiler

It's called PRETTY MUCH HETEROSEXUAL

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OH and the Girl

Spoiler

Is Non Gender and yet ACTS LIKE A GIRL and more importantly DOES NOT DO MUCH IN THE STORY

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It's like they wrote what they thought would be politically correct to attempt to "EDUCATE" and be ANNOYINGLY PREACHY and wrote something that would be extremely offensive to real transgenders, LGBT individuals.

It helps no one, if anything it shows how over representing the 4% of the gay and 0.58% Transgender population groups is hurting the cause. These people don't give a shet.

 

[crazybars]

@mikegnesium

What are you talking about.
You can easily double check all the sources for bias. Just use Wikipedia and google.

Desert Storm's article sources are amazingly biased against the LGBT transgender topic.

------------------------ My Double check work (barely a minute googling)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cns-news/
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
EXTREME RIGHT WING BIAS, PROPOGANDA

My notes: *confirmed, CNSnews.com is owned by Media Research Center
Their mission statement says "To expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#CNSNews.com
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-college-of-pediatricians/
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
HATE GROUP, POOR SOURCING

My Notes: *Anti LGBT group. . . . . . not a credible source on the issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heritage-foundation/
RIGHT WING BIAS, FACTUAL REPORTING : MIXED

My Notes: *It's a conservative think tank . . . . . bias is expected. It's like how I don't trust CNN's because it leans super left?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

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[DesertStorm]

@mikegnesium @crazybars

It might have bias, but it doesn't mean the content is valid. Check it out, brother! Let the truth set you free.

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[DesertStorm]

@mikegnesium Massive respect to you, bro!

 

[crazybars]

@DesertStorm
I like how you I literally posted how your sources are biased and you're like "Nope, it's still valid even if it's biased!"
Forgetting that that's the REASON why I won't read it? Because it's biased?

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Join the fight against patriarchy in STAR WARS!! IT"S STILL VALID CAUSE YOU SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT It's BIASED RIGHT?

Why don't you go read this then? CHECK IT OUT BROTHER, THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!


https://bigjolly.com/feminists-finally-winning-war-men/

https://www.denofgeek.com/.../star-wars/.../toxic-masculinity-is-the-true-villain-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi

https://www.usatoday.com/.../star-wars-last-jedi...women/943736001/

 

[moshimoshi]

delete

 

[DesertStorm]

@crazybars

If you read the articles, they consists of facts and evidences that justify their understanding of gender ideology's flaws. They're not just opinions which you just laid out. Nice try though!

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[Narehate]

Yikes, I’m not touching this dumpster fire of a comment section. Peace.

 

[abbers]

LGBT+ stuff is kinda like pineapple on pizza.

The people that like it are like "Yeah this is pretty rad! I like the representation. Makes me feel like someone understands me."

VS those that don't are like "KILL IT WITH FIRE!!"

It just feels weird sometimes honestly, when people not particularly involved and those that could easily identify that it's not for them get all rabble-rousing. There's plenty of non-LGBT+ content out there--literally more manga than someone can feasibly read in their lifetime. Just let us have this one without raising up a big stink about it.

Some folks are just weird.

 

[totallynotmike]

The people that like it are like "Yeah this is pretty rad! I like the representation. Makes me feel like someone understands me."

VS those that don't are like "KILL IT WITH FIRE!!"

Just let us have this one

Yawn. Do all entitled LGBT+ LGBTQAI+ people in the west come in package with some sort of persecution complex? You're not special, you don't matter - neither do I. So don't make me care about you or your issues.

 

[abbers]

@mikegnesium

No one's trying to convince you to care about our issues. As little as you care about it, there are plenty others that don't consider it important to push an agenda. Call it a persecution complex but you can tell that certain upstanding folks like DesertStorm in this chat alone are definitely getting uppity and upset for no reason at all. Less about overall persecution paranoia and more about it literally, actually, physically happening right here. Hell, you seem to be caring enough to post and literally no one asked you to.

Sorry bud, we don't care about you either. As you said, no one's special and no one really matters. Regardless, people should be able to enjoy some content without having top tier humans--DesertStorm once again acting as a paragon of human virtue--get uppity about it. He's posted those links, what, 3-4 times when it's been debunked and evaluated as propaganda each time.

It would honestly be nice to have LGBT+ content that people aren't always bitching about for reasons outside the quality of the work.

"It doesn't work as a story," "the pacing is terrible," "the characters aren't likable," are all perfectly good reasons to bitch about a story. Those are perfectly good complaints about THIS story. That's just criticism and commentary.

"Trans people don't exist," "there's no scientific proof behind gender," "agender isn't a thing if she's just acting like a girl the whole time," are examples of bitching about things that aren't criticism of the story.

tl;dr: we don't care about yall either, it would just be nice if we could have content that doesn't involve people telling us we don't exist.

 

[totallynotmike]

@abbers

Hell, you seem to be caring enough to post and literally no one asked you to.

It's called pushback.

Sorry bud, we don't care about you either.

That really doesn't seem to be the case, with all those legislative and midbrow culture hack attempt initiatives being pushed down the public throat in the west. And since you already decided to speak as representative of a group, you don't get to say "I don't do that and neither do my friends". You want class dialectic? Here be the class dialectic.

He's posted those links, what, 3-4 times when it's been debunked and evaluated as propaganda each time.

Funny, cause only till recently GD's been classified as "psychiatric condition". So you don't get to play that card, specially not now, when "inclusiveness" and reactionary compassion for all wronged identifiable minorities are on the rise. Like it or not, humans are subjects to their culture.

"Trans people don't exist," "there's no scientific proof behind gender," "agender isn't a thing if she's just acting like a girl the whole time,"

1) That statement's a lie. Nobody said that.
2) As for the second, there's not - it can't be identified by means other than personal declaration. There's not one single underlying factor that would allow for a trained professional to diagnose GD - not a CT scan, not hormone blood level measurement , not genome mapping. "What about gays" or "what about preference for cats" one might say, "they can't be identified like that either". Fair enough, but those traits are expressed by actions and don't change what people are at their most basic cellular level.
3) "Agender" is as ridiculous as "transracial" or "otherkin", so yeah, no. It's like saying "I'm not bound by gravity".

 

[DesertStorm]

@abbers

Oh, sweatie... Which do you think holds more ground? The subjective opinion or the objective truth? These links hold the objective truth, so I wouldn't go against them because they have been proven without bias in a scientific setting. Now, tell me what's correct again, sweatie?

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[crazybars]

@DesertStorm

Okay. . . . . . . ummmm, I'm gonna go get help?

This is getting weird, why are you posting the same links over and over again.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#CNSNews.com

CNSnews.com is owned by Media Research Center
Their mission statement says "To expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

Anti LGBT group. . . . . . not a credible source on the issue

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

It's a conservative think tank . . . . . right wing bias is expected. It's like how I don't trust CNN's because it leans super left?

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You can use this website to double check my work by taking the name and putting it in here to check it.
It works, I used CNN as an example.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

 

[DesertStorm]

@crazybars

Read my statement:

It seems that you're ignoring the way the multiple facts and evidences of the studies are presented because of perceived bias from an organization telling you how to think. If that's the case, then read their methodologies, and if you can't accept it, then you should re-test them again, so that you can be certain that their study is valid.

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change