What happens to user data when this site gets sued?

[Arenesos]

I'm not sure if this is the exact thread to post, but with the recent news that the U.S state dept is looking at pirate anime sites at the behest of japanese and korean companies, along with the fact that the delete account button is still broken, I was wondering if any of our personal info would be at risk of being sent to law enforcement in order for them to sue us? I'm not exactly sure what the laws are but there are some hefty punishments for ppl charged with pirating copyrighted material here (apparently piracy is worse than r@pe, bc capitalism). Let me know if this is the wrong thread for this discussion, and if so where to post.

 

[tobias5678]

Give it to US for sure
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[Manko-sensei]

The developers surely can say what part of the private data can be stolen in case it gets legally hijacked, I can only think about the e-mail (I just use one of many for unimportant sites) and the IP address. In case of someone tried to sue 6 digit users, at the end of the day it depends on the country you're from, for instance in some countries it's only illegal owning and sharing said content but not consuming it, and the "sharing" part is pretty muddy. If someone was to get sued it'd be the owners of the site, then the staff and those supporting it financially (good luck with crypto donations), at most it would be reasonable to target big scanlation groups, but for those with Discord and media links they could do it at any moment. I'm sure they have some panic button/script to erase anything on the site and back-up copies for any scenario, in the end they had to deal with a ransomware guy by telling them "good luck scamming someone else" and redoing the whole site from scratch.

 

[Angry_Panda]

I'm sure the mods will move this to the right sub-forum as they see fit.

As for individual users being the target of some kind of criminal or civil action, I don't think that's something to be concerned about. The FBI could get involved in a criminal investigation against the admins, but they wouldn't be concerned with the readers. Attempts to recoup losses from you and me would have to be done as a set of civil actions by the copyright holders. And while that's technically feasible, the sheer number of suits that would have to be filed is prohibitive. At best a few representative users would be 'made examples of' in the same way the RIAA went after a few Napster users in the early 2000's, and that's not going to leave a good impression on the rest of the community, so I don't think there's really anything to be worried about.

If you're really that concerned about getting caught, stop registering accounts on sites of questionable legality. (Or just stop coming to them entirely.)

 

[IlaiaCorde]

I'm not sure if this is the exact thread to post, but with the recent news that the U.S state dept is looking at pirate anime sites at the behest of japanese and korean companies, along with the fact that the delete account button is still broken, I was wondering if any of our personal info would be at risk of being sent to law enforcement in order for them to sue us? I'm not exactly sure what the laws are but there are some hefty punishments for ppl charged with pirating copyrighted material here (apparently piracy is worse than r@pe, bc capitalism). Let me know if this is the wrong thread for this discussion, and if so where to post.

No, we can't be sued. Nor can our user data be sent anywhere since we would not be part of the lawsuit in the first place.

Keep in mind, distributing unauthorized manga under license is illegal, but looking at it or reading it on the internet is not. You can't sue someone for reading something. Pirated or not.

 

[IlaiaCorde]

I'm sure the mods will move this to the right sub-forum as they see fit.

As for individual users being the target of some kind of criminal or civil action, I don't think that's something to be concerned about. The FBI could get involved in a criminal investigation against the admins, but they wouldn't be concerned with the readers. Attempts to recoup losses from you and me would have to be done as a set of civil actions by the copyright holders. And while that's technically feasible, the sheer number of suits that would have to be filed is prohibitive. At best a few representative users would be 'made examples of' in the same way the RIAA went after a few Napster users in the early 2000's, and that's not going to leave a good impression on the rest of the community, so I don't think there's really anything to be worried about.

If you're really that concerned about getting caught, stop registering accounts on sites of questionable legality. (Or just stop coming to them entirely.)

Panda, if the site gets nuked by the angry manga people (who probably look like the bad guys from One Piece), I'll be sad because I won't get to see you anymore.

How can I libs my life without you. 😭

 

[JohnDoe74]

Now that we are talking about this, one question. There is any form to download a backup for the list of mangas we are reading?

 

[JohnDoe74]

Like, if the website got nuked, at least we have something. Or the logic thing is to printscreen all the lists we have?

 

[yoshiyosan]

I'm not sure if this is the exact thread to post, but with the recent news that the U.S state dept is looking at pirate anime sites at the behest of japanese and korean companies, along with the fact that the delete account button is still broken, I was wondering if any of our personal info would be at risk of being sent to law enforcement in order for them to sue us? I'm not exactly sure what the laws are but there are some hefty punishments for ppl charged with pirating copyrighted material here (apparently piracy is worse than r@pe, bc capitalism). Let me know if this is the wrong thread for this discussion, and if so where to post.

I actually more hoping if somethin like that happent they not comply with shitty US law and instead make backup, make new web in country that not partnered in extraditionary with US, and nuke this website as never exist. They don't deserve it.

 

[RogueKitsune]

I'm not sure if this is the exact thread to post, but with the recent news that the U.S state dept is looking at pirate anime sites at the behest of japanese and korean companies, along with the fact that the delete account button is still broken, I was wondering if any of our personal info would be at risk of being sent to law enforcement in order for them to sue us? I'm not exactly sure what the laws are but there are some hefty punishments for ppl charged with pirating copyrighted material here (apparently piracy is worse than r@pe, bc capitalism). Let me know if this is the wrong thread for this discussion, and if so where to post.

If you are concerned about that why did you make an account to begin with? Its not like the threat of MD being shut down is anything new.

Anyway to answer your question, technically yes, but in practice its highly unlikely to the point I would say its not worth worrying about.

 

[HDMI1]

Now that we are talking about this, one question. There is any form to download a backup for the list of mangas we are reading?

Use MDList to mark them, then take a screenshot of the MDList page.

 

[MisterMango]

Now that we are talking about this, one question. There is any form to download a backup for the list of mangas we are reading?

You should get in the habit of keeping an offline manga/anime/novel list. At least a text file with titles, start/end dates, and chapter numbers that you can email to yourself for backup, but you can even make it into a full database if you have the knowhow.

 

[TestAddress]

I remember the days reading Death Note offline and patiently waiting for the next chapters.

 

[IlaiaCorde]

I actually more hoping if somethin like that happent they not comply with shitty US law and instead make backup, make new web in country that not partnered in extraditionary with US, and nuke this website as never exist. They don't deserve it.

I mean, it's not a shitty law. Artists and authors don't want their goods and labor stolen from them. As a content creator I agree with that policy. And anyone who loves manga should feel the same way.

I dont think mangadex is in violation of that law tho. The license holders need to submit a take down request. If they haven't done that, then thats on them.

 

[yoshiyosan]

I mean, it's not a shitty law. Artists and authors don't want their goods and labor stolen from them. As a content creator I agree with that policy. And anyone who loves manga should feel the same way.

I dont think mangadex is in violation of that law tho. The license holders need to submit a take down request. If they haven't done that, then thats on them.

Well the problem is the publisher not inclusive and for some reason not every country would get the same price as in Japan