Why wont the pages load [Intermittent outages from extremely high traffic]

[DessDess]

Idk if it's cause if the recent maintenance check but for some reason pages won't load now. It worked fine previous. Im using chrome but i tried opera too and it doesn't work there either

 

[BraveDude8]

Can I rant a bit?

To me it feels like MangaDex is "over-engineered" for no good reason.

I remember reading on aggregator sites over a decade ago and the only problem I'd occasionally face would be slow image loading. But even then, I could just open 5 chapters in a row and have them load in the background.

Those aggregator sites are profit-driven enterprises that fill your screen with pop-up gambling adverts and piggyback off global CDNs. They have significantly more resources to play with than we do.

MangaDex not only seems to have so much downtime but even the website itself is so heavy to render and is very unresponsive on lower end phones and tablets that it's such a pain to use.

The recent downtime was caused by a combination of multiple provider failures and all-time record breaking MD traffic. It's not typical for the site, and the only reason we stay up as much as we do is because of the "over-engineering" done by our developers to keep everything running on a shoestring budget.

Also, the website is not "heavy to render", it literally runs on XP netbooks. If it's tolerable on a twenty five year old laptop with 512MB of RAM, it's not going to have any issues on devices made in the last ten years unless there's something severely wrong with them.

 

[Aboideau]

Those aggregator sites are profit-driven enterprises that fill your screen with pop-up gambling adverts and piggyback off global CDNs. They have significantly more resources to play with than we do.

The recent downtime was caused by a combination of multiple provider failures and all-time record breaking MD traffic. It's not typical for the site, and the only reason we stay up as much as we do is because of the "over-engineering" done by our developers to keep everything running on a shoestring budget.

Also, the website is not "heavy to render", it literally runs on XP netbooks. If it's tolerable on a twenty five year old laptop with 512MB of RAM, it's not going to have any issues on devices made in the last ten years unless there's something severely wrong with them.

I don't want to speak ill of the free service you guys provide (thank you for that, I and a lot of other people wouldn't be using it if it wasn't probably the best website around ).

I do want to backtrack on my statement about the downtime. I might have overreacted to it because of my other gripe with the website-

I still stand behind my previous statement about the website being too heavy for lower end devices. An old x86 XP laptop can still be more powerful than a cheap ARM tablet. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite tablet. I understand that it's a cheap low-end tablet and I shouldn't expect it to be like a pocket-sized gaming PC. Yet if I compare navigating other websites and MangaDex, the latter is really sluggish.

Edit:

I should probably keep my personal gripes to my self, sorry.

 

[maindish]

If anyone else is having lingering issues seemingly from this, I still use uMatrix and I had to allow some new XHR from mangadex.network for things to work.

Thanks to the devs for everything they do!

 

[BraveDude8]

I don't want to speak ill of the free service you guys provide (thank you for that, I and a lot of other people wouldn't be using it if it wasn't probably the best website around ).

I do want to backtrack on my statement about the downtime. I might have overreacted to it because of my other gripe with the website-

I still stand behind my previous statement about the website being too heavy for lower end devices. An old x86 XP laptop can still be more powerful than a cheap ARM tablet. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite tablet. I understand that it's a cheap low-end tablet and I shouldn't expect it to be like a pocket-sized gaming PC. Yet if I compare navigating other websites and MangaDex, the latter is really sluggish.

Edit:

I should probably keep my personal gripes to my self, sorry.

I saw your post before you edited it, so I'll reply to that, as it's worth answering; the site is an SPA, the first time you access anything it will be slower than a traditional website but every subsequent time it'll be significantly faster.
Any delay to "sections" of the page loading after the first time per session are solely due to a delayed network response for the content being displayed there, not anything tied to the performance of the page itself. If you're seeing chapter lists/manga tiles taking ten seconds to load, that's not a rendering delay, that's your network.
Broadly speaking; just because you have a fast internet connection, it doesn't mean you have a fast internet connection to any specific website. Users on some ISPs have symmetric gigabit connections and can barely use MD because the ISP's routing is terrible, if they turn on a VPN to get around that the site works perfectly.

I have never seen plaintext HTML tags appear like you're describing. I've attached a video demo I recorded a while back showing how responsive the site is on a 5yo mid-range laptop as an example.

View attachment MD loading speed example 09.04.23.webm

Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite

The CPU in this tablet only has low-power cores from 2012 (Cortex A53) in it. I'm shocked Samsung was selling something this bad in 2021 and I'd expect it to struggle doing almost anything. The 2GB variant in particular looks unsalvageable. It's weaker than mid-range phones from 2014, and if you compare it to a Galaxy A7 (coincidental naming, but the phone from 2016, not a tablet) your tablet has exactly the same CPU cores, just clocked slightly faster, and comes with less RAM.

MD is a fairly typical Nuxt site, and Nuxt is a very widespread framework, there's not much we can do to handle devices so far below a reasonable modern performance standard.

 

[onipuck]

For past week or so, at random intervals, no matter which title I try to read, it refuses to load, has anyone else been having this happen?
I'm fine with waiting to read stuff, but it's odd that it happens almost every other day for me.

 

[Flame-2-Haze]

Great, now the pages won't load again. I tried to refresh it few times, but to no avail.

Seriously, what is wrong with this site??? It has not been right for a week now.

 

[Souyo]

Same issue, pages aren't loading.

 

[Flame-2-Haze]

I have same problem. Literally cannot read 'em.

Until they address this problem and not some bandage job, I'll just bookmark the titles that have new chapter updates and read 'em later.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Ongoing issue; see this thread.

(...and this one... and this one... and this one.)

Status page should be updated when the devs get their hands around this.

 

[Grogzilla]

We're aware that chapter images are loading slowly. Our team is working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

 

[ToiletGeist]

Can I rant a bit?

To me it feels like MangaDex is "over-engineered" for no good reason.

I remember reading on aggregator sites over a decade ago and the only problem I'd occasionally face would be slow image loading. But even then, I could just open 5 chapters in a row and have them load in the background.

MangaDex not only seems to have so much downtime but even the website itself is so heavy to render and is very unresponsive on lower end phones and tablets that it's such a pain to use.

But there's no other place for good quality translations, and the community is nice too. And I feel like I shouldn't critique this since I get to access all of this for free

I don’t remember the old version of the site being like this. Ever since the “overhaul” it’s gotten worse.

 

[Trodsen]

I don’t remember the old version of the site being like this. Ever since the “overhaul” it’s gotten worse.

Then you're definitely forgetting back when solo leveling was still releasing, we had instabilities weekly.
And MD's traffic has gone way up compared to when v3 was still around iirc(now don't get me wrong though, I am just as annoyed that we still don't have all the features from v3 available on v5, the tag changes never really made sense to me and I wish we had more tags)

 

[RogueKitsune]

I don’t remember the old version of the site being like this.

Oh sweet summer child, it was way worse.

In case you didn't know a lot of basic features, such as search, were disabled for users that didn't have accounts back in the day and the site was still falling over on a weekly (almost daily) basis. Also the traffic the site sees now is exponentially greater than what v3 (the old version of the site) ever saw. To give you some idea v3 at its peak was a top 1000 site globally, today Mangadex is in the top 100 (according to most service that track that kind of thing).

 

[Samhill]

If you're seeing chapter lists/manga tiles taking ten seconds to load, that's not a rendering delay, that's your network.

No. There still is an ongoing issue with the API at least for FIrefox users.

today Mangadex is in the top 100

This site says number № 83 with 541,031,000 visits per month.
https://www.semrush.com/website/mangadex.org/overview/

 

[Aboideau]

I have never seen plaintext HTML tags appear like you're describing.

It happened today again, so I'm sharing the screenshot. I had opened this page in a new tab before quickly switching to it.

Spoiler: image

 

[colorlesseatstomboys]

Seems like this problem happens at certain times too. I've been noticing it daily.

 

[Roler]

It happened today again, so I'm sharing the screenshot. I had opened this page in a new tab before quickly switching to it.

Spoiler: image

The plaintext HTML you're seeing shouldn't be visible because it's under the noscript tag (it should never be visible as plaintext).

Either an extension is breaking the noscript tag (most likely a content blocker) or your browser is failing to handle the noscript tag properly.

 

[Herogosp]

For me the list of chapters loads but after turning on one the chapter pages do not load.

 

[IncuBB]

Extremely slow page loading.
Tried to change regions with VPN. No results.
Site loading times seems normal, just like forum.
The problem only with page loads.

 

[mug3n]

Extremely slow page loading.
Tried to change regions with VPN. No results.
Site loading times seems normal, just like forum.
The problem only with page loads.

I have been having the same problem for the entire day. Doesn't matter VPN or DNS.