Witch Hat Atelier - Vol. 12 Ch. 68

[nathan67003]

yaayy, another scanlator who confuses official us translation with official english translation...

 

[Rillant]

yaayy, another scanlator who confuses official us translation with official english translation...

Care to elaborate?

 

[rabidfish]

I didn't understand something. So the old dude said that healing magic is lost even to the brim hats? That's interesting, so that's also why they couldn't really save the musician guy before.

 

[HDMI1]

Care to elaborate?

I think they're talking about the official simulpub being U.S. access only, when the majority of readers on here are not in the U.S. but can read English due to it being one of the major languages in the world.

Basically they feel slighted because both the choices of Kodansha and the scantalation teams dropping their series are centered around a country that thinks it's the center of the world.

 

[Rillant]

I think they're talking about the official simulpub being U.S. access only, when the majority of readers on here are not in the U.S. but can read English due to it being one of the major languages in the world.

Basically they feel slighted because both the choices of Kodansha and the scantalation teams dropping their series are centered around a country that thinks it's the center of the world.

I don't see how that changes things. Instead of us pirating the chapter and translating it so we can upload it for you to pirate on this site, another group of paid professionals (who I know and will do the series justice) will translate the chapter, the chapter still gets pirated and uploaded on other sites for everyone to pirate.
The only change here is that you won't be reading on MangaDex but one of the billion other aggregator sites. Or for a lot of people, change their Tachiyomi source.
It's still piracy either way and everyone still has access to the chapters. Looking at the official translations, they surpass ours. So why would we continue delivering an inferior translation which usually takes more than a week to finish, involving several people's work, when the superior product will be instantly available to everyone? It's starting to look like people feel entitled to our hard work just because they don't want to switch sites/Tachiyomi sources and that's really annoying.

 

[HDMI1]

I didn't understand something. So the old dude said that healing magic is lost even to the brim hats? That's interesting, so that's also why they couldn't really save the musician guy before.

Not exactly lost, just forbidden as it would basically be magical body modification and could cause human-type "demons" to be created.

 

[pawzee]

amazing work!
badass chapter

 

[Swagner]

But truth be told... I don't like the "official" translation, I mean... Agothe, seriously?

Right? It's the same as Dungeon Meshi; for some reason, these "official" translators insist on transliterating names that were themselves transliterated from English in the first place, so all you get in the end is mangled English.

 

[TJ_Frozen_Shades]

welp. thanks for all the work so far. It does suck how Kodansha's upcoming site is US only, but I guess I could use VPN or hop sites. I do understand the frustration of having to use another site, but it's simple enough to do I guess.

I assume it's also likely some other scanlation team decides to continue uploading future chapters here... right? or is there some taboo I never knew about for "not uploading things that have official english translations", USregionlocked or otherwise?

The only change here is that you won't be reading on MangaDex but one of the billion other aggregator sites. Or for a lot of people, change their Tachiyomi source.

this part in particular confused me, because it's not clear then if "Chapter 68 is the last" is just:

a.) Project Vinland Scanlations' personal decision as a team to respect the official translators,

b.) or if it's 100%, certain and absolute that no new future chapters will be on mangadex (for some reason unknown to me).

I'm fine with both either ways, but I'd appreciate the clarity regardless!

p.s. basically I don't know what "Tachiyomi" means, too. if that just means raw material or "translation team" then fair enough.

 

[SpiritusNox]

Huh....is Coco really gonna get out of this with just some....bruises? Burns? on her face? .....I feel like there's gotta be more of a catch, right...?

Anyway, thanks so much for all of y'all's translation work. Helped connect me to a wonderful manga, it's dearly appreciated.

 

[danvolodar]

or is there some taboo I never knew about for "not uploading things that have official english translations", USregionlocked or otherwise?

From what I gather, it's a pretty universal policy: as long as there's no official translation, there's no one to really care about piracy because no one's profits are undercut by it. As soon as there is one, however, the company that releases it is liable to press charges against the scanlators, so why risk it?

p.s. basically I don't know what "Tachiyomi" means, too. if that just means raw material or "translation team" then fair enough.

Tachiyomi is a manga aggregator app - basically, it allows you to have a feed into which releases from different source sites are delivered. Which is why it's said above that accommodating the change from mangadex releasing scanlated material to some other sites pirating official translations and releasing those is as easy as changing the source for your Tachiyomi aggregator.

 

[LunaaSnow]

I assume it's also likely some other scanlation team decides to continue uploading future chapters here... right? or is there some taboo I never knew about for "not uploading things that have official english translations", USregionlocked or otherwise?

this part in particular confused me, because it's not clear then if "Chapter 68 is the last" is just:

a.) Project Vinland Scanlations' personal decision as a team to respect the official translators,

b.) or if it's 100%, certain and absolute that no new future chapters will be on mangadex (for some reason unknown to me).

Mangadex doesn't allow uploads of official translations, so non-US readers will either have to use a VPN or read it from one of the many aggregator sites available. As rill has said, PV's decision to drop WHA is out of respect for the officials, and with the knowledge that the series is in good hands! The only way there'll be chapters past ch68 on mangadex is if another group decides to pick it up, but it's unlikely given that WHA now has a simulpub that takes just a little bit more effort to find.

 

[TJ_Frozen_Shades]

it's a pretty universal policy: as long as there's no official translation, there's no one to really care about piracy because no one's profits are undercut by it. As soon as there is one, however, the company that releases it is liable to press charges against the scanlators, so why risk it?

that's sensible, thanks! I guess companies are still liable to press charges against fan-translations-that-differ-from-official, even if they're from the Japanese raws huh. So it's safe to say it's unlikely any scanlators will actually pick this up then, got it!

As rill has said, PV's decision to drop WHA is out of respect for the officials, and with the knowledge that the series is in good hands!

thanks for the confirmation and info!

 

[Satsuki-Nada]

Thanks for everything

 

[Rillant]

welp. thanks for all the work so far. It does suck how Kodansha's upcoming site is US only, but I guess I could use VPN or hop sites. I do understand the frustration of having to use another site, but it's simple enough to do I guess.

I assume it's also likely some other scanlation team decides to continue uploading future chapters here... right? or is there some taboo I never knew about for "not uploading things that have official english translations", USregionlocked or otherwise?

this part in particular confused me, because it's not clear then if "Chapter 68 is the last" is just:

a.) Project Vinland Scanlations' personal decision as a team to respect the official translators,

b.) or if it's 100%, certain and absolute that no new future chapters will be on mangadex (for some reason unknown to me).

I'm fine with both either ways, but I'd appreciate the clarity regardless!

p.s. basically I don't know what "Tachiyomi" means, too. if that just means raw material or "translation team" then fair enough.

Other people have already answered but just giving my point of view:

People are totally free to continue fan scans for the series! But seeing as there was no one to do it before the simulpub (after #dropout didn't have time to continue the series, we just picked it up because we were fans and the series was up for grabs) I highly doubt anyone is willing to put in the effort to do fan scans for it when the official TL is available at the same time you can get the Japanese raws (this series is by far the most work out of any of the 10+ series we've done the past nearly 4 years).

It's a bit of a combination of your option a. I know who will be working on the simulpub, and they are excellent. They will provide chapters of higher quality than we ever could as fans. So not only do I respect them, I don't see the need for us to spend 1-2 weeks working our asses off on a chapter when it's already been out and read by everyone, when we can use that time to work on series that don't have a simulpub or that aren't even licensed yet.

And like others said, you should check out Tachiyomi! It's open-source and has basically all aggregators in one place without the need to visit their sketchy websties. It's not on the Play Store (for obvious reasons lol) but you can download it from their website.

 

[Darkchango]

Thanks for the quality translates up till now! Hope the official translations would be good

They wont, so it is a sad day

 

[faniki]

Thanks for your hard work. I hope somebody else picks it up soon. I downloaded the app where witch hat atelier is being simulpub today, and you're honestly better off pirating or waiting for the English release of volumes if there's no scans. It's about a dollar or so to read a witch hat chapter on K manga, which would be 68 dollars as of now. I don't see the app as a worthwhile alternative.

 

[yetanothergeek]

Thanks for your hard work. I hope somebody else picks it up soon. I downloaded the app where witch hat atelier is being simulpub today, and you're honestly better off pirating or waiting for the English release of volumes if there's no scans. It's about a dollar or so to read a witch hat chapter on K manga, which would be 68 dollars as of now. I don't see the app as a worthwhile alternative.

Yep, it's just MangaUp all over again.

 

[RosabellaMelantha]

I don't even know when chapters for this manga release and since kmanga is region blocked for me I guess i'm just shit out of luck on knowing when there's a new chapter?
It would be nice if MD at least tracked when there's a kmanga upload so I could continue to follow the releases...
Also doesn't help that I don't know what seedy aggregator sites to even go to that'd upload it...

 

[nathan67003]

Care to elaborate?

Well, simply put: an official US translation is something that's solely available and localized within the US. It's not an English translation, which is available anywhere. Overlocalization tends to be another can of worms the US is very fond of doing (especially Viz and Funimation), something that an international Enlgish translation would be less likely to do.

At this point, having been able to compare a fair bit of both official and fan translations acquired through various means, I can confidently say that the vast majority of official translations are middling at best as they overlocalize (or even worse, censor stuff for no apparent reason). Meanwhile, fan translations can go from raw garbage to a quality that far surpasses the average official translation (though usually not through the official team's fault, might I add, but often due to their directives I'd imagine).