Yachiru-san wa Homeru to Nobiru - Vol. 2 Ch. 7.2

[TheBlackGamer]

It's funny there are people praising the "adult" conversation after he got sexually assaulted but it's still a fetish manga. This is like claiming you read playboy magazine for the articles.

There are better ways to actually address the issue than what was portrayed here. Like the way he starts to talk about how she doesn't owe him anything after she assaulted him is not the direction I would take this. Instead I would have him ask her how she would feel if some random person she doesn't know or like started doing those things to her to paint a better picture.

Him saying all that after getting assaulted is kinda ??? It's great she gets what she did was wrong but it was so awkwardly done.

Edit: Also lol on someone saying "adult take on sexuality". To me that translates to "I have very boring sex or have illusions about sex"

 

[GutsMansAss]

I appreciate the well made point about consent and it's interesting that Yachiru may have some sort of trauma she's not even aware of(?) but on the other hand damn bro how many times does she have to say she likes you for you to make a move? Like okay yeah don't go 0 to 100 in one night, I totally get that, but fuckin', I don't know, sha-la-la-la-la kiss de girl or something, hell, say you want to pursue a relationship, but don't just leave it at "it's not that I'm not interested". Just feels like backpedaling to get everything back to status quo where Seiichiro can be flustered all the time, despite having all his secrets out there now.

 

[Burner5]

It's funny there are people praising the "adult" conversation after he got sexually assaulted but it's still a fetish manga. This is like claiming you read playboy magazine for the articles.

I slightly disagree here. While this has ecchi elements to it, I would say that the main appeal of this manga is the characters. As such, I thing it is appropriate to have an arc about sexual boundaries when one character dislikes sexual things due to how society treated her and the other is trying to repress his sexual urges to not take advantage of the person he is helping.

There are better ways to actually address the issue than what was portrayed here. Like the way he starts to talk about how she doesn't owe him anything after she assaulted is not the direction I would take this. Instead I would have him ask her how she would feel if some random person she doesn't know or like started doing those things to her to paint a better picture.

Him saying all that after getting assaulted is kinda ??? It's great she gets what she did was wrong but it was so awkwardly done.

I think it is fitting for the characters. Him doing a "how would you like it if X" might work but it may come off as a bit too harsh/aggressive for the type of guy he's depicted to be. Him instead trying to teach her to respect herself feels a lot more fitting considering his motivations.

Edit: Also lol on someone saying "adult take on sexuality". To me that translates to "I have very boring sex or have illusions about sex"

Fair point. However, this isn't the best place to show off how more sexually mature you are compared to others.

 

[TheBlackGamer]

I slightly disagree here. While this has ecchi elements to it, I would say that the main appeal of this manga is the characters. As such, I thing it is appropriate to have an arc about sexual boundaries when one character dislikes sexual things due to how society treated her and the other is trying to repress his sexual urges to not take advantage of the person he is helping.

Agree to disagree. The fact she's been pretty open about being okay in being seen in an sexual light from him alone is a green light in my eyes. He's just being a typical dense protag which detracts from the storytelling.

I think it is fitting for the characters. Him doing a "how would you like it if X" might work but it may come off as a bit too harsh/aggressive for the type of guy he's depicted to be. Him instead trying to teach her to respect herself feels a lot more fitting considering his motivations.

It would only come off aggressive if the author portrays him that way. You can have him explain and be calm and patient. It's about execution.

Fair point. However, this isn't the best place to show off how more sexually mature you are compared to others.

Sure but seeing some people act like this is the best writing on sexual boundaries is equally as bad. I just wanted to call it out.

 

[eviljackspicer]

Entire chapter on: No means No.

 

[Burner5]

Agree to disagree. The fact she's been pretty open about being okay in being seen in an sexual light from him alone is a green light in my eyes. He's just being a typical dense protag which detracts from the storytelling.

I wouldn't call him acting like this "dense protag syndrome" just yet as this was after her discovering his fetish and being disgusted by it. Then later on couching their current interactions undrr the guise that she's seeing if his sexual feelings strengthen her youkai powers.

It would only come off aggressive if the author portrays him that way. You can have him explain and be calm and patient. It's about execution.

Fair point there. While I don't mind him using this experience as a teaching point for her, him explaining her actions as wrong using a role reversal could work too.

Sure but seeing some people act like this is the best writing on sexual boundaries is equally as bad. I just wanted to call it out.

You aren't wrong there.

 

[_redd]

This man is his own cock-block. Smh

 

[Doomroar]

Well the original lore for Hasshakusama is that she is a yokai that predates on lil boys, so of course she doesn't knows about consent, so that's her excuse

I want to know what is his excuse to not realize that she loves him and wants to get fucked inside out rawdogged, even after she told him like 3 times that she wants to enter an intimate relationship, that she likes him, that she sees him in an erotic light, and that she would enjoy if they can make each other feel good and safe

Also for those saying that he isn't ready and is discovering a fetish, he also knows her original lore, he knows she is a rape yokai, and he has had a giant woman fetish from the very start, which is how he knows about her to begin with

 

[SirBlizz]

This is starting to reach into the bounds of being obnoxiously prudish. Consent and mutual respect is all well and good but its starting to feel like a tract about the virtues about staying celibate until marriage. And what's with that bit about "What caused her to think this way" Is that really the direction that this manga is going. If so I may lose interest.

 

[foist]

She wasn't confessing per se, not the way they consider it a confession, bro was just trying to make sure she knows what she is doing is dangerous, he wants her to be safe and sane about that type of stuff

 

[Substitution]

His "considerate" "adult" response is the biggest turn-off in the history of deflating lady boners.

No wonder the Japanese are going extinct.

 

[JVick]

Who else would it come from? She doesn't understand what she did wrong and he cares about her even if she overstepped and still wants her to be able to have healthy relationships.

That's exactly why he could have said something about it too then, she did something wrong and he's the only one who can help her understand. That would also tie with the way her 'love' turns a bit twisted and also bring in the subject of the lewd stereotypes.

But I wonder if it's a translation thing. Maybe with Japanese, since it's a more 'in context' language, we could have understood the other way around as well.

But the author sure did a drama inducing chapter, but this comment section still have one more argument to find, and this one will really transform this area into a shitstorm.

 

[Goldni]

classic retard mc

 

[mussumburzum]

nah, i'm dropping this, the author is forcing the MC's stupidity way too much

 

[parkchop]

As a survivor of rape and grey area consent sexual assault, honestly, this manga is doing a shockingly good and nuanced job at handling it! Awesome conversation about consent.

Don't get me wrong, they're being dense and bad at communication and messy, yes, but it's rare to see manga where anybody isn't ready or is violated and it's treated with deserved weight. ESPECIALLY when the victim is a man! He does brush it off a bit to her, but that's not surprising. It's natural to want to smooth over awkward situations, and he does like and trust her in general. Socially, it's difficult to address this sort of thing in general but doubly so for men, who have no social script or expectation of this sort of experience. He's into it, yeah, but if it's too fast and he's not ready or he just gets scared then that's valid and understandable. Honestly, anybody would be shocked to be manhandled by an 8 foot person, no matter how much they have fantasized about it. And sometimes reality just doesn't work or appeal like it did in someone's head and they pull back. That's ok! You live and you learn. Some things really are better as fantasy, in my opinion. Also, this dude is cute. Wish I was 8 feet tall

I love how the couple are written- they really care about each others feelings and comfort, even when they're a bit of a bull in a china shop about it. Can't wait to read more.

Side note on portrayal of rape and sexual assault- most media isn't particularly triggering to me. Fictionalized rape is usually more about either sexual appeal, or some drama and emotional impact. (usually to give some trauma to the male MC) It's rare for rape to be portrayed with the horrifying, sometimes boring mundanity it often has in real life, and how sudden it can be. What was shown in this chapter was absolutely sexual assault, but that doesn't make her a horrible person. She got carried away and stopped as soon as she realized that he was upset. He communicated that he did not want to continue multiple times, and was justifiably upset at that boundary being violated. There was no defensiveness or denying culpability, just talking it out. Goood shit!

 

[Kaizerdist]

That was pretty straight forward with the talk about sex.glad they didn't just play it off as nothing.

Seiichiro man, I know what you just went through but that confession was pretty straight forward too. We'll get there one day.

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Thanks for the chapter.

 

[PersonalGeekery]

he should've ended that whole spiel with
wanna try dating? if he's so concerned about consent

 

[PersonalGeekery]

he should've ended that whole spiel with
wanna try dating? if he's so concerned about consent and he clearly likes her

 

[VF89]

 

[DanCulturedMan]

After reading all the comments I am legit worried about myself. Because honestly, reading through the 2 chapters, all I felt was awkwardness. I...don't get it? He likes her. He has had these thoughts about her since like chapter 1. He has been interested in her in this specific way but tried his best to not push it. He has specific interest in this sort of stuff based on what he reads. She likes him. She wants to do these sort of things with him BECAUSE she likes him. She was not legitimately hurting him either. He could have called this off at any moment too but did not because he wanted her to have the chance to do this.
When I heard the comments talking about SA all I could feel is a bit of fear. It is scary when I am the only one that doesn't get it, like something is wrong with me maybe?
What I do see is the following:
1. Seichiro has been very mindful of her and always listened to her. She did not do the same here, mostly because she was too caught up in all this. This had to be talked so they can progress.
2. She overdid it a little bit. An apology afterwards and I thought it is all okay. Seichiro seems to think so too.
3. She...seems to not really have a good understanding of relationships and such. It felt more like all that Seichiro did was out of concern for her more so than himself. This one I DO understand. You wouldn't wanna do something with someone when they don't get the full implications of what it means and could regret it later.

So....yeah. Is there something wrong with me or what?