Yopparai Touzoku, Dorei no Shoujo wo Kau - Vol. 4 Ch. 21 - interrogation

[MangaDex]

 

[Tomoshibi]

The latest chapter suddenly came out yesterday so I finished it as well.
and also the PV of Yopparai Touzoku, Dorei no Shoujo wo Kau was just released.
You can check it here :

 

[JaceG13]

Your evidence isn't that he possessed it, distributed it or anything like that, but that he used it, on a purchase that large that could easily be disproven?

...what?

 

[feha]

Your evidence isn't that he possessed, distributed it or anything like that, but that he used it, on a purchase that large that could easily be disproven?

...what?

Yeah also confuses me. Like, can't they just check who made the actual purchase? Or is it that they did it under his identity somehow? Since that means he would be owning the property (unless they use some kind of deed-system where whoever holds a piece of paper owns the property) the only reason to do that would be to frame him. ..Then have the guy claiming he bought it show up and point out who he believes is that guy with that identity? Or if he is in on framing him, then I guess our guy is fucked - I see no way to disprove that you bought something that a merchant says you bought, with the claimed payment and having filed the appropriate paperwork, as proof. It is why we use "innocent until proven guilty" instead.

 

[LordofLeechers]

Your evidence isn't that he possessed it, distributed it or anything like that, but that he used it, on a purchase that large that could easily be disproven?

...what?

I could be reading this wrong, but this seems like an attempt to frame him by any means. He was thinking about the fact that they might plant fake gold in his house, and at the same time, it seems like they were relying on his profession's bad reputation to make sure no one would bother to check. He's a "thief", so he'd surely do something scummy like that. Unfortunately for them, this guy is a good man with a good reputation, and he has allies.

 

[Eezyville]

Your evidence isn't that he possessed it, distributed it or anything like that, but that he used it, on a purchase that large that could easily be disproven?

...what?

I don't know. Smells like discrimination to me. Got some fake gold coins floating around, don't know who made them or who distributed them, need to keep up appearances, blame the local scout/thief. Problem solved.

 

[kaikalaila]

Most likely to get fame for solving the case.

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the scanlation

 

[Kaarme]

It seems like those knights didn't want to invest any more time in this than it took to walk to Harris's house.

"All suspects are considered guilty. Otherwise they wouldn't be suspects, would they?"

 

[thanghe]

At the start of the series, he has a bunch of gold & he spends all of it to buy Tiana, even when he has more urgent needs
So, whatever he spends his gold on would not surprise me anymore

 

[tanabataz]

Yeah also confuses me. Like, can't they just check who made the actual purchase? Or is it that they did it under his identity somehow? Since that means he would be owning the property (unless they use some kind of deed-system where whoever holds a piece of paper owns the property) the only reason to do that would be to frame him. ..Then have the guy claiming he bought it show up and point out who he believes is that guy with that identity? Or if he is in on framing him, then I guess our guy is fucked - I see no way to disprove that you bought something that a merchant says you bought, with the claimed payment and having filed the appropriate paperwork, as proof. It is why we use "innocent until proven guilty" instead.

Hello Mr landlord, mr bad reputation thief asked me to rent your place on his behalf, even gave me this coins for the transaction, please check them and let me know.

Eagle knights: Enough proof for me, bag him and tag him squad!

 

[Justking14]

I could be reading this wrong, but this seems like an attempt to frame him by any means. He was thinking about the fact that they might plant fake gold in his house, and at the same time, it seems like they were relying on his profession's bad reputation to make sure no one would bother to check. He's a "thief", so he'd surely do something scummy like that. Unfortunately for them, this guy is a good man with a good reputation, and he has allies.

Yeah also confuses me. Like, can't they just check who made the actual purchase? Or is it that they did it under his identity somehow? Since that means he would be owning the property (unless they use some kind of deed-system where whoever holds a piece of paper owns the property) the only reason to do that would be to frame him. ..Then have the guy claiming he bought it show up and point out who he believes is that guy with that identity? Or if he is in on framing him, then I guess our guy is fucked - I see no way to disprove that you bought something that a merchant says you bought, with the claimed payment and having filed the appropriate paperwork, as proof. It is why we use "innocent until proven guilty" instead.

Definitely a frame job.

but I think I have the gist of it. Wasn’t the guy who stole the fake gold from him the same one who’s family owned the place where that girl was staying? If so, they own property and possibly sell property. Thus, the idiot could very easily just say, mc bought this house from me with these fake coins, rather than, I stole these coins from him.

Now yes, there should be identification somewhere on the forms or somebody should’ve acted as a witness when the contract for the property was signed but the knights here already seem to hate the dude so I doubt they looked too closely at any Kind of forged paperwork.

thankfully, it seems like the guild master can vouch for him so they‘ll hopefully double check things. Yeah the idiot could change his story and say he stole the coins instead, but right now his credibility is shot

also, mc already owns a fairly decent house. Not sure what he could get for 10 gold coins (even as a deposit) but slave girl cost 4.

 

[Shmeep]

Are the size of the heads in this chapter weirding anyone else out?

 

[flxsemi]

Your evidence isn't that he possessed it, distributed it or anything like that, but that he used it, on a purchase that large that could easily be disproven?

...what?

To give them the benefit of the doubt, they're probably trying to go after their only lead from a previous testimony, find out the real mastermind behind the forged coins, and were just using scare tactics to force a slip-up from MC. Maybe I'm cutting them too much slack but I'd like to have some nuance in these bad guy characters.

 

[gasnomercante]

I support old men being groomed by younger girls

 

[theShear]

...yeah a very obvious attempt to frame him, though I think not from the Knights. These are knights, not modern police or any actual properly trained law enforcement aside from "You are a Knight, Ergo you are the LAW!" so their Investigation technique is probably ... "lacking". They probably where told "That guy paid me with these!" and they went "Oh a scout? Those are all Thieves in all but name anyway so checks out." and went ahead. That they didn't try to frame him "specifically" I base on that when he gave his example and why that would be stupid it actually seemed to convince them somewhat. In short, they are just not very competent.

 

[lenovoaxioo]

W. . . . . . Would

 

[JaceG13]

To give them the benefit of the doubt, they're probably trying to go after their only lead from a previous testimony, find out the real mastermind behind the forged coins, and were just using scare tactics to force a slip-up from MC. Maybe I'm cutting them too much slack but I'd like to have some nuance in these bad guy characters.

Yeah, I want to believe these guys  are just doing their job, albeit badly, and are just being used. But c'mon, put in some effort guys...

 

[Lubryn]

Just like real life police lol

 

[xikarra]

Ah yes, making up random scenarios and intimidation to force a confession out of a confused suspect instead of actual investigation. Typical Japanese justice.