Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG Structures - Ch. 73 - Dragon Rulers vs Ryzeal

[MangaDex]

 

[TrapTrash1678]

From what I can gather, the cards banished from Extrav are:

-Eclipse, Dragon Ruler of Catastrophe
-Striker Dragon
-I : P Masquerena
-Number 11: Big Eye
-Apollousa Bow of the Goddess
-Dragunity Knight - Romulus

I'm not certain on Romulus, but the wings and link arrows match, while for Eclipse, the art matches well enough and the kanji matches the Japanese.

Also, SP looks so cute in this style

 

[Screenwatch]

Despite 3 pages just being mirrors of each other, that was an exciting duel. I love how a big portion of this duel was pretending to have big eye still.

 

[Levankua]

Despite 3 pages just being mirrors of each other, that was an exciting duel. I love how a big portion of this duel was pretending to have big eye still.

Yeah that was peak.

 

[dabson]

Ok but raien played this like dogshit tho. Should've used hole thruster in the standby to clear chasma and dis pater. Outside of that, misused hand traps are disappointing but understandable. When tsuboshiji summoned sp, Raien had no reason to activate hole thruster as it forced nothing. But it's also the case that tsuboshiji would've been able to force it out if he used sp to banish it or cross. Of course the writer needed to set up the otk so they have to misplay. Also why did raien not make deto WITH star as material.

Deck construction here is baffling for both players.

 

[jak]

God modern Yugioh has become so complicated. It's like every card has at least 3 effects.

 

[Strela]

Ok but raien played this like dogshit tho. Should've used hole thruster in the standby to clear chasma and dis pater. Outside of that, misused hand traps are disappointing but understandable. When tsuboshiji summoned sp, Raien had no reason to activate hole thruster as it forced nothing. But it's also the case that tsuboshiji would've been able to force it out if he used sp to banish it or cross. Of course the writer needed to set up the otk so they have to misplay. Also why did raien not make deto WITH star as material.

Deck construction here is baffling for both players.

If tsuboshiji used sp 1st effect he can't attack directly, besides Raien need to remove sp or it can chain herself to detonator effect and it will force cross regardless.
Idk what star gonna do in that situation, it doesn't have xyz inheritance effects you know

 

[cybeast21]

The mind game of baiting the effect to prevent Big Eye was really nice.

On a side note, kinda new to YGO, but how can Raien chain on SP Little Knight Resolution? I thought you can't chain on the Resolution? Or is that specifically stated by the effect of Ryzeal Cross?

 

[KuroViLolitannia]

The mind game of baiting the effect to prevent Big Eye was really nice.

On a side note, kinda new to YGO, but how can Raien chain on SP Little Knight Resolution? I thought you can't chain on the Resolution? Or is that specifically stated by the effect of Ryzeal Cross?

The negation eff of the field spell of Ryzeal works ln resolution and does not start a chain. Really stupid card.

 

[Strela]

The mind game of baiting the effect to prevent Big Eye was really nice.

On a side note, kinda new to YGO, but how can Raien chain on SP Little Knight Resolution? I thought you can't chain on the Resolution? Or is that specifically stated by the effect of Ryzeal Cross?

It is custom card level that is basically anti-chain blocking, also Raien said activate but cross doesn't actually activate, it just detach one material then negate whatever effect you want on their resolution, so you can't even stop the negation with something like ghost ogre.

 

[Am0or]

Ash veiler and ghost ogre , bruh aintnoway druler play through this

 

[dabson]

If tsuboshiji used sp 1st effect he can't attack directly, besides Raien need to remove sp or it can chain herself to detonator effect and it will force cross regardless.
Idk what star gonna do in that situation, it doesn't have xyz inheritance effects you know

Star being material gives deto an extra pop. Secondly, deto can just pop the opponents card in chain and sp wont resolve (see sp rulings). Sp doesnt force cross unless you use the first ef to banish it.

 

[TrapTrash1678]

Ok but raien played this like dogshit tho. Should've used hole thruster in the standby to clear chasma and dis pater. Outside of that, misused hand traps are disappointing but understandable. When tsuboshiji summoned sp, Raien had no reason to activate hole thruster as it forced nothing. But it's also the case that tsuboshiji would've been able to force it out if he used sp to banish it or cross. Of course the writer needed to set up the otk so they have to misplay. Also why did raien not make deto WITH star as material.

Deck construction here is baffling for both players.

Last page of chapter 72 explains his plays. He summoned Star Ryzeal AFTER making Detonator by detaching from Duodrive.

Don't get me wrong, this is still a misplay (the idea of this line is that doing it in this way plays around Nibiru by keeping Cross live otherwise you can Nib on summon of Star, but this doesn't matter here because he drew Plugin and used Plugin to attack Mass Driver to Duodrive, so it would have been live anyways, the correct sequence would have been Plugin attach Mass Driver, then Star detach Sword to keep Mass Driver under Duodrive), but frankly, Ryzeal players almost never make more than a 2 mat Detonator. I've seen a great many TCG and Master Duel players just leave a random Node Ryzeal on field so it's not an unrealistic misplay.

As for not popping Chasma in Standby, I think it has 0 material, and it floats upon destruction, so the only meaningful pop was Dis Pater, and so he probably wanted to wait for a more profittable double pop even if it meant letting Dis Pater use its effect (which again, I don't think this is correct, but would be what my mind would jump to after seeing him hold it for main). In the other situation, he pops it in standby, Chasma floats, which he can either negate with Cross or let him get the extra body, which considering his goal of NOT letting him get to 2 7s, he probably negates, and now he's in the exact same situation (minus the Magnamut effect that didn't matter), Plasma Hole used, Cross used, 4 mat Detonator. Of course, you could argue he could not negate, let him get to a Rank 7 and Cross negate Big Eye (which he didn't have, but he would play assuming he did), but then that sets up for a potential Zeus line if he has it in ED (though that would cut off his ability to OTK, it would simplify the board state pretty heavily and setup for a board wipe with Here There be Dragons on the opponent's turn).

TL;DR, I don't agree with his plays, but I wouldn't call any of his misplays big, these are plays I could easily see someone making at a high level. Honestly, the most unrealistic thing about this Ryzeal player would probably be... playing Mass Driver.

 

[dabson]

Last page of chapter 72 explains his plays. He summoned Star Ryzeal AFTER making Detonator by detaching from Duodrive.

Don't get me wrong, this is still a misplay (the idea of this line is that doing it in this way plays around Nibiru by keeping Cross live otherwise you can Nib on summon of Star, but this doesn't matter here because he drew Plugin and used Plugin to attack Mass Driver to Duodrive, so it would have been live anyways, the correct sequence would have been Plugin attach Mass Driver, then Star detach Sword to keep Mass Driver under Duodrive), but frankly, Ryzeal players almost never make more than a 2 mat Detonator. I've seen a great many TCG and Master Duel players just leave a random Node Ryzeal on field so it's not an unrealistic misplay.

As for not popping Chasma in Standby, I think it has 0 material, and it floats upon destruction, so the only meaningful pop was Dis Pater, and so he probably wanted to wait for a more profittable double pop even if it meant letting Dis Pater use its effect (which again, I don't think this is correct, but would be what my mind would jump to after seeing him hold it for main). In the other situation, he pops it in standby, Chasma floats, which he can either negate with Cross or let him get the extra body, which considering his goal of NOT letting him get to 2 7s, he probably negates, and now he's in the exact same situation (minus the Magnamut effect that didn't matter), Plasma Hole used, Cross used, 4 mat Detonator. Of course, you could argue he could not negate, let him get to a Rank 7 and Cross negate Big Eye (which he didn't have, but he would play assuming he did), but then that sets up for a potential Zeus line if he has it in ED (though that would cut off his ability to OTK, it would simplify the board state pretty heavily and setup for a board wipe with Here There be Dragons on the opponent's turn).

TL;DR, I don't agree with his plays, but I wouldn't call any of his misplays big, these are plays I could easily see someone making at a high level. Honestly, the most unrealistic thing about this Ryzeal player would probably be... playing Mass Driver.

The reason you dont see more than 2 mat detonators being made is because the trade off is making another xyz. It's fine to misplay like this if you're an average Timmy in plat in master duel. The alleged world champ should know better tbh. Playing mass driver is indeed poor deck construction, which I already mentioned. So is playing ogre but whatever.

You pop two in dp/sp because you have 2 ryzeals and need to clear dis pater. You still hit chasma because it costs you nothing to do so. But if you dont want to, dont. You dont need to cross negate chasma because the deto pops will still stop him from getting to big eye or any other r7nk. Regardless, he didnt use deto while dis pater was on the field fearing the dis pater being used as cl2. Obviously, that's gonna end up eating 2+ pops from deto if he does choose to respond so it is always right to deal with it preemptively.

But even if he does get to big eye, you can just use thruster to make eclipse twins to dodge big eyes ef or just deto pop itself. Mind you, by the point he resolves pot, he only has 4 cards in ed. So playing around big eye + zeus isnt really necessary in the first place.

 

[TrapTrash1678]

I hate Ryzeal, but it is cool to see a modern deck. I wonder what's next. Maliss vs Mitsurugi Orcust would be cool to see.