Yumemiru Danshi wa Genjitsushugisha - Vol. 3 Ch. 14

[Doutorfunga]

Idk man I feel like MC sister should hate natsukawa. I know if one of my siblings got their heart broken and the heart breaker decided they were gonna suddenly act like my sibling did something wrong because things aren't the same as they were I would be fucking furious. How arrogant she is to think she's entitled to his attention. She essentially said it's a waste of time but I want you to waste your time anyway. Come on sis if you care so much about your brother to the point you cry about it how about you actually protect him from the toxicity.

Sister doesn't give a shit about him either, prolly just a shipper

 

[Konopo]

my guy got it rough and he's just trying to find some self-value. Let him cook on his own

 

[PrivatePublic]

Feels like the sister is less concerned with the MC's emotional state than she is with her own feelings of guilt. She knows she treated him like shit and now that he is spiraling down she's trying to apologize for her own self-satisfaction.

And that is just bullshit. You can't demand forgiveness. You can't push responsibility on your victim for the way you mistreat them. You want your relationship to be better? Start by being a better fucking person. Don't ask permission to continue treating them like shit, stop treating them like shit.

 

[itsy23]

Thank you for translating this chapter. I've been waiting for a month to read the rest but it seems that some scanlators dropped it.

 

[JJUGEND]

I decided to reread this, i already had forgotten how fucking depressing this is. Guys self esteem is lowest of the lows and that FMC still keeps adding fuel to the fire. It seems like his sister realized that she was big part of the problem, but guys mental state is already so bad that he thinks getting abused is a norm.

 

[0mnifarious]

Feels like the sister is less concerned with the MC's emotional state than she is with her own feelings of guilt. She knows she treated him like shit and now that he is spiraling down she's trying to apologize for her own self-satisfaction.

And that is just bullshit. You can't demand forgiveness. You can't push responsibility on your victim for the way you mistreat them. You want your relationship to be better? Start by being a better fucking person. Don't ask permission to continue treating them like shit, stop treating them like shit.

I completely agree, she's a shitty sister and bordering on being a terrible lousy person. She seems to have picked-up this behavior from their mother, and didn't see anything wrong with it because he kept shrugging it off. Maybe she thought it was a normal sibling relationship, but it's a bad look juxtaposed to her treatment of the prez (which we learn about in this chapter). Plus she didn't even make the first move to try to repair the relationship; he did after the prez asked him to. I really hope she does reflect further and slowly change for the better, rather than taking the MC's words at face-value and continuing the status quo. His words should be a huge red flag that he doesn't see her in a positive light.

That all said, I'd currently rank her as 3rd worst character behind Natsukawa (who is a self-absorbed tsundere despite supposedly being a well-adjusted, responsible, and loving older sister) and MC's mother (for what are hopefully obvious reasons).

 

[kciaar]

It's like watching one of those deep dive videos where everyone in the story is just unbelievably scummy. I wouldn't be surprised if he either just snapped and went on a killing spree or become completely catatonic shut-in. But it seems like he'll just continue to be a dirty rag for his shitty family and that awful fmc.

 

[Nibelcol]

His sister and a lot of people around him is really toxic af. Usually I would be annoyed as hell when a mc has really low self worth and keep making self deprecating statement, but I can’t blame him one bit when the people around him like her sister keep saying him ugly. Like holy shit even his mother, who suppose to be the last person saying you’re handsome no matter how ugly you are, also joking around about his ugliness. Like fck me you just feel guilty now, really? After all these years of mental abuse to your brother? Tf

 

[DatOneGuy]

The reaction to this story is kinda interesting and not at all what I expected.
From my perspective, it's a story about a guy who was trying to "stretch beyond his means" (in his own mind) and finally cracked and started to hate himself and walk a self-destructive path of malaise.

But along the way there were people who always genuinely cared about him. His sister who would always bicker with him but never meant it seriously, it's just the awkward way different gendered siblings connect (at least to her). She was devastated when she realized that her brother had taken her words seriously.

The girl he had been bugging, maybe she doesn't like him romantically but she genuinely values him as a friend. He himself is the one who started this "game" of "harassing her" and set the tone from the beginning of their relationship. He never seemed that serious about dating her because he was always asking her out in a joking manner. Suddenly he gets serious and asks her out and she's caught out of left-field. Regardless of her romantic interest in him, she wants him in her life.

The girl's best friend also cares about him, that part is straight-forward.

Even the ikemen that the MC seems to dislike is always trying to talk to the MC and bring him into the conversation.

It's like a story of an MC who was always self-loathing and he played the fool, "reaching beyond his lot in life" until he eventually gave up. But all along, no one looked down on him more than he did. The people he compared himself to never looked down on him. His average face and "average personality" never seemed to actually lower other people's impressions of him.

His self-loathing twists his perception of the world. No one else even dislikes him, at most they are just immature and awkward around a guy who frankly sets up those types of relationships.

But the rest of the comments seem to think that everyone else around him is pretty terrible so maybe I'm tripping??

 

[Drbilljoe]

Yea you tripping

I would agree with you if there were obvious signs of the people around him genuinely caring about him but that isnt the case, there hasn’t been a “hey are all things good?” From anyone even though he’s clearly going through a bad time

His sister bickering isn’t even bickering but her pushing the boundaries, I have a sister myself and we do make fun of eachother but we’ve known eachother long enough to understand the boundaries and what not to push into, his sister doesn’t at all and hasn’t even considered what she was saying to her brother was hurtful. Personally I blame the mother for pushing her since she thought it was ok but she still never questioned it.

Yea the girl that he liked had their own banter match going on with eachother and she probably thought he was joking with the confessions but even then when he began to suddenly change she should have questioned him or asked if things were good instead of hiding her own feelings and continuing with the banter. If she actually cared enough she would have pushed through being embarrassed and at least talked to him properly

The girls best friend only slightly cares and again no communication.

And the saddest part about all this is that he can’t trust anyone around him to talk about himself, everyone he’s known has only made fun of him and hasn’t considered him at all.

Yea the characters around him may “care” but they don’t care enough. It’s like when you hear that an acquaintance is going through something and you care a small bit but not enough for you to reach out to them.

Even with the recent chapter there just some stupid misunderstanding going on and they fault the mc without understanding the situation as a whole. If I cared about him I would’ve asked what was going on first.

He’s self loathing for a reason and going through a shit time and no one has been there to support him

 

[Combi998]

Last chapter translation was way better than before

 

[jokerxhisoka]

Is the anime represented as an adaptation of the manga? or of the novel?

This manga is, of itself, not appealing, and I wonder whether it is sustained simply on the coat-tails of the novel, which I have not read.

the manga is faithfully following the novel. If it were an adaptation of the manga or novel, we would get the same result.

 

[Oeconomist]

the manga is faithfully following the novel. If it were an adaptation of the manga or novel, we would get the same result.

I advisedly asked what the anime were represented as adapting.

This manga, even riding on the popularity of a light novel and even with an anime in the works, is very likely to be cancelled, and might be cancelled before the anime can be released.

Even without the distinction between my question and the question of what the anime is adapting, the issue of pacing is important. Part of what is very wrong with this manga as a manga is pacing. An adaptation of the manga would be expected to have much the same problem.

 

[RiceFarmerVN]

I advisedly asked what the anime were represented as adapting.

This manga, even riding on the popularity of a light novel and even with an anime in the works, is very likely to be cancelled, and might be cancelled before the anime can be released.

Even without the distinction between my question and the question of what the anime is adapting, the issue of pacing is important. Part of what is very wrong with this manga as a manga is pacing. An adaptation of the manga would be expected to have much the same problem.

99% of the time the anime adapt the light novel and not the manga adaptation of the light novel.
Secondly, it'll certainly get "cancelled" depends on how you define it. Most manga adaptations of light novel only adapt 3~5 volumes of the LN then end. Only a few extremely popular series get a complete adaptation.

 

[Oeconomist]

it'll certainly get "cancelled" depends on how you define it.

But I speak and write actual English, and so didn't use “cancel” other than as one would find it defined in a dictionary. I do not expect the manga series to complete its scheduled run; I expect it to be cancelled, as readers find it unappealing, not-withstanding that a market evidently exists for the light novel.

Possibly the anime will be a more appealing adaptation. In that case, a new manga adaptation may be begun.

99% of the time the anime adapt the light novel and not the manga adaptation of the light novel.

My question of what the anime were represented as adapting was in the context of some people arguing as if the anime proved the appeal of the manga, with its tedious pacing.

 

[Coldlight]

Say what? He doesn't want his awful sister to be nicer to him? He prefers the verbal and physical abuse he's been taking from her for years? Broken man is broken, oh how surprising. He's become so used to it that the prospect of it disappearing unnerves him.

For the sister's part, she just has to become nicer, no matter what her Stockholm Syndrome suffering brother says. Just stop being abusive and become a better person. It's going to help drive change for him too even if he doesn't like seeing her become a nicer sister. He's become too used to the terrible status quo and that's not good. I'd like it if she actually did change. Maybe it starts a cascade of people around him changing for the better, ultimately leading to himself changing for the better. But should I really believe something like that is possible in this story?

Man, a lot of these characters love shooting themselves in the foot, don't they? That includes poster girl Aika who's a certified regular at self-sabotage. They'll probably be in for more misunderstandings and evasive "communication" next chapter.

 

[legendary_swordsman]

I like how down hill this goes as soon as FMC enters the chat this is wild who let her in

She messed it up and they were ending on a good notem. It was none of her business and what is she doing grabbing him

 

[legendary_swordsman]

she goes out saying about his relationship with his sister, yet cant even try to fix hers with him

She refuses to accept she likes him until she cleans up her own mind nothing can change

 

[legendary_swordsman]

Idk man I feel like MC sister should hate natsukawa. I know if one of my siblings got their heart broken and the heart breaker decided they were gonna suddenly act like my sibling did something wrong because things aren't the same as they were I would be fucking furious. How arrogant she is to think she's entitled to his attention. She essentially said it's a waste of time but I want you to waste your time anyway. Come on sis if you care so much about your brother to the point you cry about it how about you actually protect him from the toxicity.

Yeah she's butting in on something that doesn't concern her. I'm also not fond of how rough she is being with him. Though given there are times where she punches or chokes him I suppose it's better

 

[legendary_swordsman]

His sister did the same thing to him as natsukawa did. it was pointed out that she and their mother would badmouth him daily, like saying he is ugly and whatnot. In my opinion, she really doesn't care about him, she is just feeling depressed because she was one of the causes, not because of what he suffered.

Yeah as he says it's normal for her to treat him bad, I mean he calls her a gorilla and how she likes punching him and putting him down