Yurige no Heroine ni Tensei Shita Ore, Nazeka Are ga Haeta Mama desu - Ch. 1

[Carn109]

Just when the Yuri was so over

We came so back

 

[dy4y]

You wanting to put tags onto something that is not there is extremely annoying because it tries to limit what a story wants to convey with a simple tag.

Oh yeah, gods forbid someone try to limit what kinds of stories can be told

Could this be a title concerning a trans character? Maybe, maybe not. So far I think it's just ambiguous enough that it could be read either direction based on the dialogue presented, and only time and actual progression and development of the plot and the protagonist character will tell if one is the case over the other or if there's some unseen potential third option that I don't want to discount the notion of out of ignorance.

It's not ambiguous though. The only thing ambiguous is whether or not the author is sincere about the very blatant and undeniable transness of the protagonist. Well, that and the transphobic readers who wish to deny trans existence who twist themselves into knots to try to explain why this character couldn't possibly be trans.

 

[UdenEmpati]

It's not ambiguous though. The only thing ambiguous is whether or not the author is sincere about the very blatant and undeniable transness of the protagonist. Well, that and the transphobic readers who wish to deny trans existence who twist themselves into knots to try to explain why this character couldn't possibly be trans.

If that's where the author goes, then that's what is being presented.

That's my whole stance.
I'm not here to deny the reality of transfolk, in reality or in fiction. I'd just prefer to not put words in the author's mouth and let them speak through the story.

But I do try to let the author dictate the story they wish to tell, and not put my own interpretations on their narrative, however justified I may feel they are, until they're backed in no uncertain terms by the individual who is actually putting pen to paper.

And at present, there's an argument that the reason the protagonist is stressed over discovering they possess a penis is because of what canonically happens to men found on-campus within the story of the game the protagonist is currently existing within - and not explicitly because of dysphoria.

Would it be great if this was a trans protagonist realizing their dreams by being Isekai'd into the setting of their favorite escapist fantasy from their old life? Abso-fucking-lutely, I'd be overjoyed to see something like that represented in contemporary manga in a way that's unequivocal in its presentation.
And sure, it could be interpreted that way, and I'd argue convincingly so, but I'd prefer to not make that final call for the protagonist or the artist until it's stated as such by them - because it's really not my place to do so, even for a fictional character.

 

[HamBone]

16
Looks fuckin 30

What is this, Jojo?

 

[dy4y]

If that's where the author goes, then that's what is being presented.

That's my whole stance.
I'm not here to deny the reality of transfolk, in reality or in fiction. I'd just prefer to not put words in the author's mouth and let them speak through the story.

But I do try to let the author dictate the story they wish to tell, and not put my own interpretations on their narrative, however justified I may feel they are, until they're backed in no uncertain terms by the individual who is actually putting pen to paper.

And at present, there's an argument that the reason the protagonist is stressed over discovering they possess a penis is because of what canonically happens to men found on-campus within the story of the game the protagonist is currently existing within - and not explicitly because of dysphoria.

Would it be great if this was a trans protagonist realizing their dreams by being Isekai'd into the setting of their favorite escapist fantasy from their old life? Abso-fucking-lutely, I'd be overjoyed to see something like that represented in contemporary manga in a way that's unequivocal in its presentation.
And sure, it could be interpreted that way, and I'd argue convincingly so, but I'd prefer to not make that final call for the protagonist or the artist until it's stated as such by them - because it's really not my place to do so, even for a fictional character.

The thing you need to understand is that what the author intends doesn't actually matter.
Yes, their intentions will determine what direction the story is going in but what we're talking about is how the author chose to represent this character and that "how" reads as explicitly trans. Yes, you can twist the narrative to argue that any individual part here might on their own not constitute a trans reading but when they're all combined together she is explicitly trans.
Even if the trans reading isn't the author's intention and the later chapters show how this character is not trans it doesn't change the fact that in chapter 1 this character is portrayed as trans.

Take something like the antisemitism in The Hobbit.
Based on J.R.R. Tolkien's expressed views and how the dwarves are portrayed in the later Middle Earth books it can be assumed that it wasn't intentional, but that doesn't change the fact that the portrayal of the dwarves in The Hobbit is still antisemitic.

 

[RaelDeer]

If the author isn't a coward this poor fool will get some estrogen, but I bet this is a coward type beat.

 

[MostlyHumanTLs]

Glad you've figured out your situation for yourself.
You also don't speak for every human being and their individual experiences and existences.

Acting like you're qualified to do so, is where you're going wrong. You're entitled to your personal perspective and what it means to you as an individual, but pretending that because you've figured your singular life out that anyone who experiences and feels differently is delusional, is as laughable as it is absurd.

You don't know the lived experience of anyone but yourself. You can't. Pretending otherwise is a fool's errand and makes you look like a child.

It's always so funny to read comments like these, because of how unaware they are about the irony of claiming I can’t speak for anyone, while trying to speak for me.

I bet you wouldn't say what you did if I mentioned that my experience comes from trying to help a classmate that ended up regretting his transitioning. Him trying to go back to "normal", finding his chances at a "normal life" bleak and committing suicide by overdosing at 23 years old.

I was with him through all that, though I met him near the end of university. He even managed to graduate, hoping it would help.

Yes, I don't speak for "every human being and their individual experiences and existences". Nobody can.

You're right that I "don't know the lived experience of anyone but [myself]". But I sure as hell know what my friend went through.

 

[LordScat]

Sign me in

 

[YummyWordSalad]

Whether the yuri-danshi (man consuming yuri, a 180 from fujoshi, a woman consuming yaoi) is trans, time will tell.
For now I'm going from that term (implying self-identifying as a man) and the internal self-image.

My read/opinion based off the first chapter is that he:

• was a scary dude; due to his looks there were rumors and he was shunned from society, giving him complex about his looks;
• started wishing to be a complete antithesis of his whole existence - a cute girl;
• would live out his fantasy of being a cute girl via yuri material, becoming a yuri-danshi;
• would start calling himself a girl at heart as a self-justification for being a yuri fan;
• died suddenly while wishing to be a girl, and reincarnated into his favorite game, placing him in the all-girls school;
• still was male, devastating him since the consequences of discovery would be severe (and probably because he didn't want to come between the yuri shipping);

But that's just the first chapter, so...

 

[dy4y]

yuri-danshi (man consuming yuri)

The scientific term for that is himedanshi

 

[YummyWordSalad]

Thought it was yuri-danshi since it plays off fudanshi.
Especially since there is a manga titled 'Yuri danshi', which has the synopsis describe the term as 'straight male reader of girls'-love manga'.

 

[3141592653589]

Looks like I'm gonna need to add "Yuri protagonist with a dingaling" to my List of Things That Spawn Huge Comment Threads.

 

[dy4y]

Thought it was yuri-danshi since it plays off fudanshi.
Especially since there is a manga titled 'Yuri danshi', which has the synopsis describe the term as 'straight male reader of girls'-love manga'.

Yuri-danshi is indeed the name of a manga but himedanshi is the more common term for such men.
Also, himejoshi/danshi means princess girl/boy. More elegant than a simple yuri girl/boy, don't you think?

 

[YummyWordSalad]

Yeah, you're right. It does look and present better.

I was only using the very term that was used in the chapter of the story we're discussing. Protagonist described himself as yuri danshi, page 4.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

Shoulda made it where she was a futa instead of a trap

 

[Tobesmgobes17]

Lmao this shit is wild yo. Gotta see where this goes

 

[BlackElite]

I thought it would be a Futanari thingy, but she is still a man... Quite a shock to be honest

 

[Racistopheles]

it's gay enough for me, i will pretend it's only women

 

[Figtree22]

This is so trans coded

 

[readingsit]

lol with that description i was expecting a rare futa mc non-h title, femboy mc twist isnt unacceptable. ill follow it and see where it goes
EDIT: wtf is the forum discussion? definitely not commenting on this manga again