Yuusha Shoukan ni Makikomareta kedo, Isekai wa Heiwa deshita - Ch. 63

[OpN]

The author keeps hyping it up, but

Spoiler: the abyss

in the novel it didn't really feel like that big of a deal. Don't get me wrong, it was hyped in the novel just as much, but the climax didn't feel worthy of foreshadowing.

 

[Scipo0419]

Once again, Author shows that anyone but Kuro should be the main girl. Everyone has a deeper connection to him than Kuro, so why is it Kuro!?

 

[Scipo0419]

Powerscalers arguing for boundless Shallow Vernal in shambles right now

Yeah, but her being Omnicient or Omnipotent isn't what makes her the strongest fantasy being to ever exist in any media ever.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

Yeah, but her being Omnicient or Omnipotent isn't what makes her the strongest fantasy being to ever exist in any media ever.

I mean that's not true, any character that is omnipotent would beat any character that isn't so she automatically loses to the one above all for example.

That being said what is it then? Is it all those pictures of her feet?

 

[BusWindow]

Surprise Kuro bikini shot at the beginning! 🥰

 

[Belkin]

man I knew Shiro had a big chest but not THAT BIG and THICK. kudos to the artist

 

[Belkin]

Alright, I know some of y'all already reading far in the novel.

Spoil it for me, eh? Who or what is this "Abyss?"

uh I put a huge spoiler, so read at your own risk

Spoiler

a lot of things, Kaito's constant suffering because of his parents death (kind of the main theme of the story, every chapter of the web novel is told as if he's telling it to his parents), coming to terms with his feelings for Kuro and that he has a limited time to spend on that otherworld. Finally, to challenge and defeat shallow Vernal. The final Boss.

 

[Scipo0419]

I mean that's not true, any character that is omnipotent would beat any character that isn't so she automatically loses to the one above all for example.

That being said what is it then? Is it all those pictures of her feet?

It's spoilers, but if you don't care then:

Spoiler

Shiro's primary ability is called "Epilogue," it brings about the end to any story no matter what. If the target is Omnipotent, they'll still be ended. If the target is Omniscient, they'll still be ended. If the target is immune to Epilogue, they'll still be ended. If they kill Shiro before she activates it, they'll still be ended. Shiro isn't omniscient nor is she omnipotent, but she is the ending to every story. Which is why she tried to create something for once (this world). It's also implied that Epilogue isn't even Shiro's strongest ability? And I'm paraphrasing this part, but I believe it was also explained that because of Epilogue, the reason killing her won't matter is because "as long as there is a story, there has to be an end, and that end is Shiro." Implying that Shiro will be the last living being in existence no matter what. So even The One Above All would meet his end to Shiro even if, by all other metrics, he blows Shiro out of the water.

For a non-spoiler answer: imagine that kid on the playground who says "nuh uh, I win because...", and that's Shiro's existence in a nutshell. Another, "not super accurate but the best I can think of" way to describe her without spoilers is "she's sentient plot armor." So if every being ever conceived of in reality or fiction all attacked her, she'd still win by nature of her existence, even the Author can't stop her because her attributes have already been set, so if the author tried to erase her, she'd still win.

Of course, this is never really used in this story and is more the readers going "wait... what the fuck did this author create!?" and following the logic to its ultimate conclusion. Shiro is quite literally unbeatable.

Edit: the vs Battles wiki put it more eloquently than I did:

Spoiler

• The Epilogue: One of the true essences of the being called Shallow Vernal. As soon as she appears, the story has entered its final chapter. That’s why, no matter how hard her opponent tries, they met their ends. The beings that should have killed it, the beings that should have sealed it, the beings that should have created an ability to protect them from this being’s power, the beings that should have erased it from existing with the law of causality, and the beings that should have run from it. All of them were brought to their ends. More accurately this ability is the ability to always stand at the end in all conditions, with no countermeasures or ability holding any meaning to it. The Epilogue is the ability to close the book, end the story, thus no matter how one tries, compared to the Epilogue, they are mere characters in a book, of which the Epilogue is the reader. This ability has no limits on on its target's size, area of effect, or distance to be covered, and it can be activated regardless of Shiro's will, as the Epilogue has a will of it's own.
• The Last Story: One of the true essences of the being called Shallow Vernal. She is also the final story, and thus will not disappear as long as other stories exist.

Edit: put the "non-spoiler answer" in the spoiler tag since it's spoiler adjacent as pointed out by HDMI1

 

[Hiibiki]

Alright, I know some of y'all already reading far in the novel.

Spoil it for me, eh? Who or what is this "Abyss?"

it's Kuro.

 

[Popcorn2]

This pacing is way too fast and why do I feel like they Skip a lot already

 

[mojo72400]

Shallow Vernal's cultured to remove her sarong when preparing it as a lap pillow for Kaito.

Page 21 should be "But here's" instead of "But t here's"

 

[HDMI1]

It's spoilers, but if you don't care then:

Spoiler

Shiro's primary ability is called "Epilogue," it brings about the end to any story no matter what. If the target is Omnipotent, they'll still be ended. If the target is Omniscient, they'll still be ended. If the target is immune to Epilogue, they'll still be ended. If they kill Shiro before she activates it, they'll still be ended. Shiro isn't omniscient nor is she omnipotent, but she is the ending to every story. Which is why she tried to create something for once (this world). It's also implied that Epilogue isn't even Shiro's strongest ability? And I'm paraphrasing this part, but I believe it was also explained that because of Epilogue, the reason killing her won't matter is because "as long as there is a story, there has to be an end, and that end is Shiro." Implying that Shiro will be the last living being in existence no matter what. So even The One Above All would meet his end to Shiro even if, by all other metrics, he blows Shiro out of the water.

For a non-spoiler answer: imagine that kid on the playground who says "nuh uh, I win because...", and that's Shiro's existence in a nutshell. Another, "not super accurate but the best I can think of" way to describe her without spoilers is "she's sentient plot armor." So if every being ever conceived of in reality or fiction all attacked her, she'd still win by nature of her existence, even the Author can't stop her because her attributes have already been set, so if the author tried to erase her, she'd still win.


Of course, this is never really used in this story and is more the readers going "wait... what the fuck did this author create!?" and following the logic to its ultimate conclusion. Shiro is quite literally unbeatable.


Edit: the vs Battles wiki put it more eloquently than I did:

Spoiler

• The Epilogue: One of the true essences of the being called Shallow Vernal. As soon as she appears, the story has entered its final chapter. That’s why, no matter how hard her opponent tries, they met their ends. The beings that should have killed it, the beings that should have sealed it, the beings that should have created an ability to protect them from this being’s power, the beings that should have erased it from existing with the law of causality, and the beings that should have run from it. All of them were brought to their ends. More accurately this ability is the ability to always stand at the end in all conditions, with no countermeasures or ability holding any meaning to it. The Epilogue is the ability to close the book, end the story, thus no matter how one tries, compared to the Epilogue, they are mere characters in a book, of which the Epilogue is the reader. This ability has no limits on on its target's size, area of effect, or distance to be covered, and it can be activated regardless of Shiro's will, as the Epilogue has a will of it's own.
• The Last Story: One of the true essences of the being called Shallow Vernal. She is also the final story, and thus will not disappear as long as other stories exist.

So you're saying this story is just a "remake" of Medaka Box?

Also that non-spoiler part is still a spoiler.

 

[Scipo0419]

So you're saying this story is just a "remake" of Medaka Box?

Also that non-spoiler part is still a spoiler.

There's similarities, yeah.

And I mean I guess? It's less of a spoiler than "snape kills dumbledore" which was already barely a spoiler given how insanely out of context it was. But I can edit the post to spoiler tag it

 

[Dark]

Once again, Author shows that anyone but Kuro should be the main girl. Everyone has a deeper connection to him than Kuro, so why is it Kuro!?

me reading the after story..... kuro who.

 

[HDMI1]

me reading the after story..... kuro who.

Kuro is the dog/wolf-girl the MC hangs out with since the start of the series.

 

[Popcorn2]

Ah boy....
I could be wrong cuz it's been ages and this probably happen around 200-500 chapter ranged and latest is like 2k lol...

Spoiler: wn spoiler (not sure accurately)

So basically I believe it is about something that Kaito need to face eventually, he kinda like stuck in the past, blaming himself for parents death even though he didn't caused it, was able to survive but not his parents etc

Shiro set up trial for Kaito to face, his past, his desire etc. while this was happening, people who like Kaito got misunderstood thinking Shiro is doing something danger to Kaito. So they and Kuro declare war on god realm to save Kaito.

I think this is probably what she referred to? That Abyss is kaito's past that he always stuck. I can't remember exactly details... It's been 3-4 years ..


Fun fact:
Kaito wasn't supposed to show up now, he was meant to show up 20 years later, being undercare by different Lord (not Lilia), they don't know what to do with him, he just shut himself in his room, depression etc..Instead of Kuro who found him. It was Shiro who did, and they did make relationship similar as we saw with Kuro/Kaito.

This was future Shiro saw 10k years ago, the reason it didn't happen and it happen early is due to Kuro constantly tamper summon magic circle hoping to meet destiny

You just spoiled something else not the abyss

 

[Scipo0419]

Kuro is the dog/wolf-girl the MC hangs out with since the start of the series.

Dark was making a point that Kuro is such a nothing burger of a character that they don't even remember who the main heroine of the story is. Which was my point that even the author doesn't remember why Kuro is the main heroine because he clearly likes literally everyone else more. Edit: Bro, Illness's feelings toward Kaito are more developed than Kuro's, and she doesn't even want to be in a relationship with him and showed up like 100 chapters into the web novel, and I think only once or twice in the Manga by this point?

 

[huruharahuruh]

Ah boy....
I could be wrong cuz it's been ages and this probably happen around 200-500 chapter ranged and latest is like 2k lol...

Spoiler: wn spoiler (not sure accurately)

So basically I believe it is about something that Kaito need to face eventually, he kinda like stuck in the past, blaming himself for parents death even though he didn't caused it, was able to survive but not his parents etc

Shiro set up trial for Kaito to face, his past, his desire etc. while this was happening, people who like Kaito got misunderstood thinking Shiro is doing something danger to Kaito. So they and Kuro declare war on god realm to save Kaito.

I think this is probably what she referred to? That Abyss is kaito's past that he always stuck. I can't remember exactly details... It's been 3-4 years ..


Fun fact:
Kaito wasn't supposed to show up now, he was meant to show up 20 years later, being undercare by different Lord (not Lilia), they don't know what to do with him, he just shut himself in his room, depression etc..Instead of Kuro who found him. It was Shiro who did, and they did make relationship similar as we saw with Kuro/Kaito.

This was future Shiro saw 10k years ago, the reason it didn't happen and it happen early is due to Kuro constantly tamper summon magic circle hoping to meet destiny

Spoiler: Shiro indeed kidnapping kaito

That misunderstanding is just a facade. Actually the whole trial is set to wether shiro would erase kaito memory and thus remade him into kaito that she want. While she claim toward kuro and co. That it's just a misunderstanding, she later confess to eden that she is indeed had the intention to delete his memory. But she is just can't, she just can't do it after every thing they've had done and creating memories. She is faced with the dilemma of choosing either her ideal version of Kaito, or the current Kaito and thus she rather choose the later. Eden then remind shiro that "his child" is greater than Shiro might think. And indeed it is, the current Kaito is way better than even the ideal version of him.

 

[huruharahuruh]

Once again, Author shows that anyone but Kuro should be the main girl. Everyone has a deeper connection to him than Kuro, so why is it Kuro!?

That's because kuro is author favorite character. Iirc it was mentioned somewhere in the afterword (??? And serious-senpai dialogue) that kuro is author favourite. Even iirc at 2nd popularity poll (1000th chapter celebration) was held with the top rank getting their own special chapter story. Kuro was ranked like 5, and thus the author decide to set the special story from top 5 so that kuro is included in it. Also if anyone curious about the final vote result:

Total 2689 Votes, 31 December 2021
1st, Isis remnant (672 votes)
2nd, illness (417 votes)
3rd, Shiro (350 votes)
4th, Alice (306 votes)
5th, Kuro (82 votes)
6th, Makina (76 votes)
.
7th and so on is the leftover, lower than 76

 

[Kurie]

This is such a good series. Thanks so much for TLing it, always look forward to it.