Zenbu Kowashite Jigoku de Aishite - Vol. 4 Ch. 19 - Lenticular

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What do you mean ?..

She literally has been a bad person, since her first appearance 😐
She's literally just a toxic, possessive B and nothing more.. also calling jumping on top of someone and strangling them "a scuffle", she's really just delusional 🥲
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They're just referencing this panel.
 
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I had a funny thought. What if my "Kurumi suppressed her negative memories about Kokoro as a coping mechanism" theory turns out to be true? It feels much more likely given Akane's revelations this chapter about Kokoro's behavior in both elementary and middle school. Imagine if Kurumi goes on the zoo date only to have her memories of hating Kokoro to come flooding back to her after the rabbits trigger Kurumi's POV of past events.
 
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Thanks for the chapter and translation. Things are really heating up and I am looking forward to the next chapter
 
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Everybody is mentally ill!!!!!!!!

Yay! Right lets dive in. Main couple over here seems to finally be back together, even if for a bit, but it seems the second couple is potentially brewing underneath. I do wonder... will she take that date? After all that happened? Will she be hesitant? Will things end horribly?

Well knowing this manga atp, that wouldnt be a shock, but hey, what do I know?
 
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Kokoro girl I don't think asking Kurumi out on a date is the best way to talk to her
Just ask her to talk with you like a normal person without that pretense 😭

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What do you mean ?..

She literally has been a bad person, since her first appearance 😐
She's literally just a toxic, possessive B and nothing more.. also calling jumping on top of someone and strangling them "a scuffle", she's really just delusional 🥲
right, and someone much worse than her just told her she's not a bad person and that's making her reconsider a few things.
 
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So,Scanlator,are you saying that if this series doesn't get animated within the next year or so,we will look for you,we will find you,and we will killKokoro No Choke: Four Finger Slash your neck?
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Nah dude, you don't need to talk things over since it'll probably solve some pain and suffering.
Just keep the toxicity level as high as possible, this is peak entertainment!
Thanks for the chapter!
 
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Not in this thread specifically, but seeing people saying "Kokoro is worse than Naoi!" and vice versa is one of the most frustrating things. Not many pieces of art are about who's worse and who's the best etc. The world and art is more complex than that.
Thanks for the tl, as always ^^
 
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jesus christ..

i just want kokoro to get together with that other girl (i forgot her name), for the m girl to get a proper dom, for kurumi and naoi to have some time alone, AND FOR ALL OF THEM TO GET EXTENSIVE THERAPY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
PLEASE
SOMEONE GET THEM A THERAPIST I SWEAR
 
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It would be interesting if Kudou "corrupts" Kokoro. The premise of volume 1 was ostensibly Naoi doing that to Kurumi, though it's worked out to be a much purer relationship than we might have expected.

I think Naoi is only delaying her conversation with Kurumi. She may not be sure how to explain her relationship with Kudou yet and it's going to be unpleasant for her when she does, getting into a past she'd rather not think about it. I don't think Naoi will be mad long term at Kurumi for wanting to know what's going on at the love hotel.

They could have a short term conflict since Kurumi hasn't committed to Naoi explicitly and is still in a relationship with Kokoro, which Naoi is avoiding complaining about. They still have a certain amount of trust for each other, so I think this will be resolved without issue. That will be the point they affirm their relationship with each other, so it could be a volume ender rather than an eminent event. Right now they still need to get annoyed enough with each other to have that short term conflict, as they're still trying to please each other.

That sums up Kokoro's main issue in a nutshell. And it's completely intentional by the author. That's why Kokoro keeps saying "I'm sorry" and then doing more things she knows on some level are wrong or will hurt others. She does the exact same thing at the end of the chapter. It's like she can't stop herself.

This is especially true when you consider her actions at the end of chapter 19 are the same actions she attempted in chapter 9. It's an invite for the exact same date to the zoo.

Rather than reflecting and changing her actions, she more or less responds by redoubling her efforts. She is putting quite a lot of effort into this, in fact, which is part of her problem.

It is a consistent flaw with Kokoro. Somehow we keep thinking Kokoro is about to change, then she finds a new way to take it to a new level. That's despite that we made the same observation in previous threads. It's somewhat comical at this point.

Not in this thread specifically, but seeing people saying "Kokoro is worse than Naoi!" and vice versa is one of the most frustrating things. Not many pieces of art are about who's worse and who's the best etc. The world and art is more complex than that.
Thanks for the tl, as always ^^
Agreed. This type of analysis is reductive and conflict promoting in discussions. Also though, Kokoro is worse than Naoi.
 
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They could have a short term conflict since Kurumi hasn't committed to Naoi explicitly and is still in a relationship with Kokoro, which Naoi is avoiding complaining about.
I think Naoi realizes how suspicious her interactions with Kudou must seem to Kurumi, so she's cutting Kurumi some major slack. Plus, Naoi likely noticed the unplugged phone and how bad of shape Kurumi was in when she got to her house, so she likely realizes Kokoro must've done something really off for things to have gone like they did. Given the circumstances, I think Naoi's trying to avoid putting any more stress or pressure on Kurumi and letting Kurumi decide things on her own, at her own pace. Which is the polar opposite of how Kokoro operates.
 
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I think Naoi realizes how suspicious her interactions with Kudou must seem to Kurumi, so she's cutting Kurumi some major slack. Plus, Naoi likely noticed the unplugged phone and how bad of shape Kurumi was in when she got to her house, so she likely realizes Kokoro must've done something really off for things to have gone like they did. Given the circumstances, I think Naoi's trying to avoid putting any more stress or pressure on Kurumi and letting Kurumi decide things on her own, at her own pace. Which is the polar opposite of how Kokoro operates.
I think so too. It's clear not imposing on people is a major value for her. This is combined with knowing Kurumi was sick, with stress likely factoring into it, and wanting her to be able to rest.

Earlier we did have the "Finally you're also alone" declaration (or something like that) from her. I think it's safe to Naoi is both annoyed and scared by Kurumi not standing up to Kokoro or blaming Kokoro more, even after all this. It would only feel like a repeat of the previous arc where Kurumi and Kokoro started dating.

The difference with Kokoro is that Naoi doesn't think her feelings entitle her to force Kurumi to do anything. She would like for Kurumi to do various things, but only if that's Kurumi's true choice and desire. Her only shot at getting that is to give Kurumi the time and space Kurumi needs to decide for herself.
 
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After reading this thread I'm embarrassed to say I did in fact fall for Kokoro's apparent development. Now I hope she doesn't disappoint...
 

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