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I was kind of on board with both trains of thought until I read:Like I told the other guy, I’m sorry if this has turned into a never-ending cycle of disagreement—that wasn’t my intention. So, I’ll leave it at this: you’re basing her reaction on his emotions, saying she feels guilty because you believe she thinks she broke him. In my opinion, that’s an improper way of looking at things.
While he was elevating himself, she never thought about him in that light. When she had sex with the other guy, she wasn’t thinking about his feelings in that light either. The panel takes place years later, and what’s happening now? He’s getting promoted. And she’s ashamed to look at him. She sees him standing there, accepting the promotion, but in that moment, there’s no way she’s thinking, Oh, I broke him. That’s illogical. Women don’t think like that.
Is there a chance she feels guilty? Sure, but I doubt it. Her actions throughout the chapter have been driven by jealousy, and I believe this moment is no different. He’s now the head chief—he’s surpassed her. She was his senpai, but now he’s the top dog. And the whole time, she’s been jealous of his success. Why would this moment be any different?
Basing her actions on how he feels just doesn’t seem right. It’s an improbable way of looking at things because she couldn’t possibly know how he feels. Could she think, I must’ve done something to him? Sure. But clearly, she’s not.
Let’s just agree to disagree. I’m sorry for dragging this out as long as I did—that wasn’t my intention. I respect your opinions, yours and the others’, but that’s just where I stand.
What in the actual fuck? This is so imbued with incel thinking I just can't take it seriously. Her actions have not been purely driven by jealousy, a person can feel multiple emotions at the same time, just because someone is jealous doesn't mean they suddenly don't feel guilt because of that. In fact I would argue that most people feel extremely guilty over their jealousy, as that is a common duality of emotions. She has no justifiable reason to hate him which would make in justifying her jealousy all but impossible for a normal person.Women don’t think like that
Like I'm genuinely curious, how have you not seen at least a single TV-show or manga or anything where a character feels guilty because of their jealousy? It's one of the most common tropes involving meta-emotions in literally any form of media because it's so relatable, and good for adding depth.
Are we serious right now? She started feeling jealous after he insinuated it was only chance that let him overtake her, which is false since he is clearly just underestimating his own efforts, so nothing morally questionable there. Her emotional reaction in turn is absolutely understandable, what she does after is bad but - again - understandable considering her state of mind and would be fine if she were to take responsibility afterwards, when she doesn't FOR YEARS, is when it becomes a real problem morally speaking.She sees him standing there, accepting the promotion, but in that moment, there’s no way she’s thinking, Oh, I broke him. That’s illogical.
Her state of mind is very obvious and although there might be subtleties that can change the interpretation slightly, saying she didn't feel guilty - no matter what else she might be feeling - is the actual improper way to look at the character.
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